26CornerBlitz Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Hmmm? There just might be a pattern here with the Chargers. @AdamSchefter As a rookie, LaDainian Tomlinson held out 30 days, Quentin Jammer 50, Philip Rivers 25, Shawne Merriman 7. Joey Bosa holdout now at 16 days
machine gun kelly Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 This holdout is silly. Both sides should compromise, but I believe Bosa is the one who is more hurt because he needed OTA's and TC to get the scheme down and have a solid first year. Your always playing for your next contract, and this holdout could affect his play in year 1. I do think it was bad pick by the Chargers. There were more talented people at #3.
plenzmd1 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Hmmm? There just might be a pattern here with the Chargers. @AdamSchefter As a rookie, LaDainian Tomlinson held out 30 days, Quentin Jammer 50, Philip Rivers 25, Shawne Merriman 7. Joey Bosa holdout now at 16 days but those others were when rookie holdouts were common...not when teams have their entire class signed a week after the draft. To me, the Chargers are all in the wrong here, unless i am misunderstanding something. He is just asking for what everyone in the top 5 gets in terms of offset and timing of bonus right? Why should the Chargers expect to get something different than the rest of league? Am i missing something?
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 Even if Joey does eventually cave so he can get on the field, the Chargers will have won the battle but lost the war. It's a terrible way to start out a relationship with a player you should hope is a cornerstone of the team and it will give them a poor reputation with future draft picks, agents, and FAs.
NoSaint Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Even if Joey does eventually cave so he can get on the field, the Chargers will have won the battle but lost the war. It's a terrible way to start out a relationship with a player you should hope is a cornerstone of the team and it will give them a poor reputation with future draft picks, agents, and FAs. they already have the reputation, so theres that.
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 The SD defensive performance last night should help move the negotiations along. They need him badly.
thebandit27 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 It's a fully-guaranteed contract That both sides are this dug in on issues that won't matter a year from now is absolutely absurd
artmalibu Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 I think Doug should get on the horn and offer next years second for him....
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 I think Doug should get on the horn and offer next years second for him....he can't be traded. He's unsigned. They could have traded his rights only through 8/9.
Webster Guy Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 CBA needs to tune this up and specifically state the offset language and who it applies to. The whole freakin purpose was to avoid this crap, and both sides are being hurt from it. To think of the hours and huge lawyer fees that went into this and its still got holes in it....
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 but those others were when rookie holdouts were common...not when teams have their entire class signed a week after the draft. To me, the Chargers are all in the wrong here, unless i am misunderstanding something. He is just asking for what everyone in the top 5 gets in terms of offset and timing of bonus right? Why should the Chargers expect to get something different than the rest of league? Am i missing something? Even if Joey does eventually cave so he can get on the field, the Chargers will have won the battle but lost the war. It's a terrible way to start out a relationship with a player you should hope is a cornerstone of the team and it will give them a poor reputation with future draft picks, agents, and FAs. I agree with both these statement. SD is looking bad right now and might have pushed Bosa development back a full year with all the camp time he's missing. In the end they are only hurting the team.
#34fan Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) I think Doug should get on the horn and offer next years second for him.... Could it be done?... The relationship between the two may be damaged beyond repair.... A second, a late round, plus a few space- eaters on the bench? I wouldn't mind... NOT Cardale , though. Edited August 14, 2016 by #34fan
3rdand12 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Bosa's Mom is pissed. He aint gonna play for no stinking Chargers
#34fan Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) Bosa's Mom is pissed. He aint gonna play for no stinking Chargers Seems a bit like fate, then... Make a move, Doug. Edited August 14, 2016 by #34fan
3rdand12 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Seems a bit like fate, then... Make a move, Doug. I thought he had to get redrafted or something?
plenzmd1 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 I thought he had to get redrafted or something? That is correct..his rights cannot be traded now. He can be signed and then traded, but then the Chargers are eating his bonus..so aint gunna happen. Back in draft next year is his only option outside Chargers this year
Mr. WEO Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 This holdout is silly. Both sides should compromise, but I believe Bosa is the one who is more hurt because he needed OTA's and TC to get the scheme down and have a solid first year. Your always playing for your next contract, and this holdout could affect his play in year 1. I do think it was bad pick by the Chargers. There were more talented people at #3. Their scheme is "our Defense blows". He's probably already up to speed. CBA needs to tune this up and specifically state the offset language and who it applies to. The whole freakin purpose was to avoid this crap, and both sides are being hurt from it. To think of the hours and huge lawyer fees that went into this and its still got holes in it.... The rookie pay scale wasn't created to eliminate holdouts, it was to eliminate crazy rookie heavy cap space waste and to free up more money for vets/free agents. I'm not sure how much lawyers' fees went into this part of the CBA. Or any part of it for that matter.
#34fan Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Even if Joey does eventually cave so he can get on the field, the Chargers will have won the battle but lost the war. It's a terrible way to start out a relationship with a player you should hope is a cornerstone of the team and it will give them a poor reputation with future draft picks, agents, and FAs. Likely to be some tough-going in that locker-room too.
unbillievable Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Bosa comes from a family legacy of NFL busts. He knows there is a good chance he will get cut before the end of his rookie contract. This is about getting as much money into his pocket as soon as possible.
Uffalo Ills Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 The Chargers are scamming Bosa. He should not be the one blinking.
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