John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I love how Pollyannas ignore reality. Conversations usually go like this: Realist: I see a problem here. Pollyanna: You're so negative! Everything's great! R: Not everything. Just look at the problem. It's pretty big. P: You just want to see failure so you can say you were right! R: No, I'd rather be wrong, but the facts say this is a problem. P: You're so negative! Everything's great! (Bad, predictable thing happens) R: Yep, saw that coming. P: You happy now? You always root for failure. R: No. It sucks, but I'm not surprised. P: You're so negative! Yeah, he's been professional and I've given him props for it. He deserves it. I really dont call people out for being negative.....just really hate when the word "realist" is thrown into it like its some sort of justification. People have the right to be negative....dont justify it like you have any more "real" view then anyone that chooses to think the bills might actually get this ship righted cuz you dont
White Linen Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Well, historically this would seem to be the case I think it proves we haven't cracked the QB code but we've most definitely done good things while not solving the QB issue. The problem is the nah sayers don't like anything we do - they don't like our players - the don't like our coaches - they don't like the front office - they don't like our draft, and they just point to our record. The facts are that we haven't made the playoffs in 16 seasons. What isn't a fact is that we won't before the season starts. A realist isn't someone predicting we won't and being optimistic doesn't mean we will. The point is do we have to beat the negative drum every damn year before it starts? Can we stop attacking fans that think we have a shot this year?
Beerball Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Can we stop attacking fans that think we have a shot this year?Wouldn't be prudent.😇
Nanker Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Yup. My level of enthusiasm will depend on the contract, however. What if his extension is as purdy as this?
White Linen Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Wouldn't be prudent. Actually it would be prudent.
Beerball Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Actually it would be prudent.you don't do sarcasm, do you? Wait, maybe that's me.
White Linen Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 you don't do sarcasm, do you? Wait, maybe that's me. It was you, haha
BarleyNY Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I really dont call people out for being negative.....just really hate when the word "realist" is thrown into it like its some sort of justification. People have the right to be negative....dont justify it like you have any more "real" view then anyone that chooses to think the bills might actually get this ship righted cuz you dont Unrealistic positions aren't equal to realistic ones. Sorry to break that to you. People have a right to their opinions, but an opinion that can be backed up with unbiased facts, analysis and logic is worthy of a lot more respect than one that can't. Watching some Pollyanna cherry picks facts to create some pretend scenario to make themselves feel good is like nails on a chalkboard to me. It's like we're in preschool. If we all wish real hard, then all of our dreams will come true! Sorry, I just can't do that. So, yeah, some opinions are better than others. Realists aren't necessarily negative, they are actually very positive when situations warrant it. That's how you can tell the difference between a realist and someone who's just negative (or a Pollyanna and realist). Facts and logical arguments often change the opinions of realists. Negative people and Pollyannas tend to be pretty impervious to facts and logic though.
John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Unrealistic positions aren't equal to realistic ones. Sorry to break that to you. People have a right to their opinions, but an opinion that can be backed up with unbiased facts, analysis and logic is worthy of a lot more respect than one that can't. Watching some Pollyanna cherry picks facts to create some pretend scenario to make themselves feel good is like nails on a chalkboard to me. It's like we're in preschool. If we all wish real hard, then all of our dreams will come true! Sorry, I just can't do that. So, yeah, some opinions are better than others. Realists aren't necessarily negative, they are actually very positive when situations warrant it. That's how you can tell the difference between a realist and someone who's just negative (or a Pollyanna and realist). Facts and logical arguments often change the opinions of realists. Negative people and Pollyannas tend to be pretty impervious to facts and logic though. Please provide these unbiased facts that make your opinion better then mine.
Beerball Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Unrealistic positions aren't equal to realistic ones. Sorry to break that to you. People have a right to their opinions, but an opinion that can be backed up with unbiased facts, analysis and logic is worthy of a lot more respect than one that can't. Watching some Pollyanna cherry picks facts to create some pretend scenario to make themselves feel good is like nails on a chalkboard to me. It's like we're in preschool. If we all wish real hard, then all of our dreams will come true! Sorry, I just can't do that. So, yeah, some opinions are better than others. Realists aren't necessarily negative, they are actually very positive when situations warrant it. That's how you can tell the difference between a realist and someone who's just negative (or a Pollyanna and realist). Facts and logical arguments often change the opinions of realists. Negative people and Pollyannas tend to be pretty impervious to facts and logic though. Please provide these unbiased facts that make your opinion better then mine. Nothing to see here, move along.
BarleyNY Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Please provide these unbiased facts that make your opinion better then mine. Are you debating my statement that an opinion based on unbiased examination and logical interpretation of facts is generally superior to an opinion based on bias and contortion of facts?
White Linen Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Are you debating my statement that an opinion based on unbiased examination and logical interpretation of facts is generally superior to an opinion based on bias and contortion of facts? You goin' get it now
johnwalter Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Y'all don't know the amounts being discussed here, so it's asinine to conclude from reports of negotiations that the F.O. is either making good decisions or making bad decisions. The Bills have a tremendous amount of leverage here, I seriously doubt they are making offers that exceed even a severe discount to his level of play last year. If Tyrod can sustain that level of play or exceed it, Whaley can Kirk Cousins him (franchise tag him) -- twice. On top of that, Tyrod's size and propensity to run likely mean that the agent is chomping at the bit to get a deal done and protect his 10% against the risk of injury. Edited August 1, 2016 by johnwalter
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2016 Author Posted August 1, 2016 I'm sure this tweet will be attacked mercilessly but what the hay @nflnetwork In 2015 , @TyrodTaylor had a 99.4 QBR. For comparison: That was better than Aaron Rodgers & the same as Cam Newton.
Dorkington Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Nothing like trying to preemptively give credit for something that hasn't happened with no details. Christ on a cracker, how many of you work for the Bills? Nah, its more pre-emptive sarcasm based on the endlessly negative takes *anything* the Bills FO does. And it's cute that you think I work for the Bills, considering others have called me needlessly pessimistic in the past. Edited August 1, 2016 by Dorkington
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2016 Author Posted August 1, 2016 Nah, its more pre-emptive sarcasm based on the endlessly negative takes *anything* the Bills FO does. And it's cute that you think I work for the Bills, considering others have called me needlessly pessimistic in the past. haha that was me. But mainly in the Gameday threads
What a Tuel Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I keep seeing Darby struggling tweets, and Gilmore impressing tweets. Could we want to get Tyrod signed so we can be free to franchise Gilmore next year if we have to?
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I keep seeing Darby struggling tweets, and Gilmore impressing tweets. Could we want to get Tyrod signed so we can be free to franchise Gilmore next year if we have to? i remember the panic over darby last preseason. those were good times.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 i remember the panic over darby last preseason. those were good times. Yeah, Rex really threw him in the deep end during preseason
DrDawkinstein Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Could we want to get Tyrod signed so we can be free to franchise Gilmore next year if we have to? Yep, that is exactly what has been surmised so far. That definitely has some influence on this. Im sure if it were up to the Bills, it would be to re-sign Gilmore first, and that is what they tried. But with that stalling out, time to get Tyrod signed and get some leverage in place for Gilmore.
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