NoSaint Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Even better than I thought. Looks like a good deal for everyone and if Tyrod takes us to the playoffs and has an even better statistically year than last, it ends up being a hell of a deal for the Bills I'll be curious how early his agent makes noise if he plays at a top 5-7 kind of level the next few years (what a blessing of a problem but a possible discussion if it ends up being a hell of a deal for the bills like his 2 year deal was)
PromoTheRobot Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Deal seems incredibly short-sigted on somebody's part.... Not sure who's just yet... All I know is that i was totally under-whelmed by Tyrod's performance last season... Would've given him the job, of course, but I think it's a FAR better plan to let him EARN a big contract.. 'prove his worth', so to speak... If I had to bet on this deal working out, OR coming back to bite somebody in the rear, I know where my money'd be. So a guy who didn't get all the snaps in camp goes 8-6 and finishes top 10 in several positive categories and makes the Pro Bowl as an alternate as a first-time starter leaves you underwhelmed? What exactly would "whelm" you?
Doc Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 So a guy who didn't get all the snaps in camp goes 8-6 and finishes top 10 in several positive categories and makes the Pro Bowl as an alternate as a first-time starter leaves you underwhelmed? What exactly would "whelm" you?
boyst Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 You're right, continue bitching rather than a bit of scrolling.I seldom do the x cheat. Trying to do less posting more reading. Thanks for being a shoulder to cry on!
PromoTheRobot Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 I'll be curious how early his agent makes noise if he plays at a top 5-7 kind of level the next few years (what a blessing of a problem but a possible discussion if it ends up being a hell of a deal for the bills like his 2 year deal was) Well his salary goes up to $27MM in year two. I would guess he'd be talking renegotiation for year three.
Gugny Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Well his salary goes up to $27MM in year two. I would guess he'd be talking renegotiation for year three. Great point. Everyone is acting as if people actually honor contracts they sign in today's NFL. Bottom line, this is a great deal for both sides.
Dorkington Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Tyrod also doesn't seem like the type to do that either... he had every right to make big noise about it this year, and was really chill about it all, and we got a friendly contract out of it.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Why would someone of elite caliber (not saying that these guys are) agree to this type of contract? Look at Brock. He banked in on FA. Carr and Bridgewater could turn out to be legitimate options at QB and I'm sure there will be plenty of teams willing to pay a pretty penny for their man. That being said: The deal works for someone like Tyrod because of the uncertainty surrounding his long-term abilities. Teams like Tampa and Tennessee will have had 4 or more years to evaluate their guys who are currently being paid on rookie contracts. It wouldn't work for the proven elite guys (that's why I used Tannehill). Dalton would have fit too. None of those guys mentioned has proven to be elite yet. They've all shown signs and it's likely that some of them will progress. However it isn't unthinkable that any of those teams may want to see a little more before forking over the type of deal that Tannehill got.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 I hated when I first heard this. Seemed like such a Bills type move to overpay a guy who won 8 games. But it's why you have to hear the whole contract in the NFL. It is pretty reasonable and makes Taylor prove himself. I have more doubts about him as a franchise guy but I'm rooting for him to lead us and make a ton of money.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Deal seems incredibly short-sigted on somebody's part.... Not sure who's just yet... All I know is that i was totally under-whelmed by Tyrod's performance last season... Would've given him the job, of course, but I think it's a FAR better plan to let him EARN a big contract.. 'prove his worth', so to speak... If I had to bet on this deal working out, OR coming back to bite somebody in the rear, I know where my money'd be.How can it bite someone? You do understand the structure right? They have a team option.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 It wouldn't work for the proven elite guys (that's why I used Tannehill). Dalton would have fit too. None of those guys mentioned has proven to be elite yet. They've all shown signs and it's likely that some of them will progress. However it isn't unthinkable that any of those teams may want to see a little more before forking over the type of deal that Tannehill got. Dalton was having an elite type season before injury and has made the playoffs every year of his career. He is severely underrated because he is a ginger.
QB Bills Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Deal seems incredibly short-sigted on somebody's part.... Not sure who's just yet... All I know is that i was totally under-whelmed by Tyrod's performance last season... Would've given him the job, of course, but I think it's a FAR better plan to let him EARN a big contract.. 'prove his worth', so to speak... If I had to bet on this deal working out, OR coming back to bite somebody in the rear, I know where my money'd be. I agree. They should have gotten Aaron Rodgers for this upcoming season. And what was the point of drafting Shaq Lawson and Reggie Ragland when they were going to get injured? Did the front office not see how well JJ Watt and Luke Kuechly played last year? Why not get both of those guys instead? Underwhelmed..
#34fan Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) So a guy who didn't get all the snaps in camp goes 8-6 and finishes top 10 in several positive categories and makes the Pro Bowl as an alternate as a first-time starter leaves you underwhelmed? What exactly would "whelm" you? So you're over-whelmed by a QB, who's been in the league 5 years winning 8 stinkin' starts, against mostly BAD teams? Wow.. I don't know what to say, -other than some may find your standards laughable... Mine aren't astronomical.... In fact if Tyrod had managed ONE signature win against significant competition... NYG, KC, NE, WAS, I'd feel safer in backing him 100%.... I thought in games when he could have really taken a step forward, and LED us to wins, he shrunk back... JMO. My opinion on Tyrod hasn't changed since day 1... Until he prove's me wrong, he is the best BACKUP in the NFL.. Sorry. I'm not as generous as the Pegulas. Edited August 13, 2016 by #34fan
John from Riverside Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 So you're over-whelmed by a QB, who's been in the league 5 years winning 8 stinkin' starts, against mostly BAD teams? Wow.. I don't know what to say, -other than some may find your standards laughable... Mine aren't astronomical.... In fact if Tyrod had manged ONE signature win against significant competition... NYG, KC, NE, WAS, I'd feel safer in backing him 100%.... I thought in games when he could have really taken a step forward, and LED us to wins, he shrunk back... JMO. My opinion on Tyrod hasn't changed since day 1... Until he prove's me wrong, he is the best BACKUP in the NFL.. Sorry. I'm not as generous as the Pegulas. Had a winning record and beat a team that made the post season and kept a division rival with a winning record OUT of the post season Your being ridiculous
3rdand12 Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Maybe the best day for Bills and fans in a decade. Besides Pegula's buying the team of course
#34fan Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 I agree. They should have gotten Aaron Rodgers for this upcoming season. And what was the point of drafting Shaq Lawson and Reggie Ragland when they were going to get injured? Did the front office not see how well JJ Watt and Luke Kuechly played last year? Why not get both of those guys instead? Underwhelmed.. This was the PERFECT year to test drive before buying.... In '16 TT will face the kind of defenses that will test his viability as a starter.. AZ, LA, SEA, CIN... Personally, I would've waited.
Maury Ballstein Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 So a guy who didn't get all the snaps in camp goes 8-6 and finishes top 10 in several positive categories and makes the Pro Bowl as an alternate as a first-time starter leaves you underwhelmed? What exactly would "whelm" you? Not getting pantsed by cousins, Bradford, and Smiff with playoffs on line would be a start to the "whelm" effect.
Heitz Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 I agree. They should have gotten Aaron Rodgers for this upcoming season. And what was the point of drafting Shaq Lawson and Reggie Ragland when they were going to get injured? Did the front office not see how well JJ Watt and Luke Kuechly played last year? Why not get both of those guys instead? Underwhelmed.. Or at least have the brains to pick guys that weren't going to get hurt - duh! Unpressed.
3rdand12 Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Or at least have the brains to pick guys that weren't going to get hurt - duh! Unpressed. lol'd
QB Bills Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 This was the PERFECT year to test drive before buying.... In '16 TT will face the kind of defenses that will test his viability as a starter.. AZ, LA, SEA, CIN... Personally, I would've waited. Fair, but the contract is structured in a way where that can still happen. Basically they are paying him more this year to lock him down for less than what they'd have to give him if he lights it up. Even if the odds of that happening aren't great, you have to take that chance considering how important the position is. And in my mind, he showed enough last season to take that chance but not enough to declare him the long-term solution. And this contract reflects that. I'm not a big Whaley guy, but this is a good deal for the team. The QB position, rightly or wrongly, has way too much say in how your team performs. And there is a dearth of talent at the position. You need to act if you think you have your guy. It's not like the Bills have a blue-chipper waiting in the wings to come save the franchise. Taylor's play could mask Whaley's other questionable decisions (Rex, Clay/Shady contracts) to the point where it keeps him employed beyond this year.
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