metzelaars_lives Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Most definitely sarcasm. How in the hell could anyone say they can't praise Whaley for anything? I thought so. I think Whaley has been an above average GM at worst and maybe even an excellent GM.
Augie Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) I wonder if the Titans could get fined for letting Cassel carry a clipboard. The first big test of the new concussion rule! Putting him in a game might be considered criminal. That glancing blow he took as a Bill didn't look like big time concussion material. Hope the guy is OK long term. Don't come back and say "but I had no idea!" later. Edited July 26, 2016 by Augie
PromoTheRobot Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 They banned you from Twitter for that? I meant Coller blocked me for making him sad.
White Linen Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 I thought so. I think Whaley has been an above average GM at worst and maybe even an excellent GM. It's not even debatable, IMO.
boyst Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Not to change this thread but if I am CBS I hire Ryan Fitzpatrick for the morning show. Do a where in the world is fitz? The NFL qb who has played for more teams than anyone... where is he now? Its time for camp... where is Ryan? Then send him all over.
The Big Cat Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Oh man. I was really hoping the Cassel Crowd would have heeded OP's call to stand up then immediately sit back down. But this is the Internet. We're dealing mostly in cowards here.
metzelaars_lives Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 I meant Coller blocked me for making him sad.I have the distinction of being blocked by Thurman Thomas on Twitter. Great running back, not a particularly sharp guy.
FireChan Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) Matt Cassel never gave away 21 points in 1 minute. We ruined our playoff hopes with EeeeeeeeJjjjjjj. Thank god we have that 5th rounder though. Who is next on the list? We have the dummy who couldn't stop eating Taco Bell and getting stoned, the other dummy who drove hammered, maybe with that 2017 5th we could get a wife beater or even an accused murderer. Praise Whaley. Edited July 26, 2016 by FireChan
Luxy312 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 I think Cassel went home to his castle, never to suit up in the NFL again.
Acantha Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 The Cassel enthusiasts were loudest between about half time of the Jags game and half time of the Giants vs Dallas game later that afternoon. After that, there wasn't a whole lot of chatter.
Mr. WEO Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Oh man. I was really hoping the Cassel Crowd would have heeded OP's call to stand up then immediately sit back down. But this is the Internet. We're dealing mostly in cowards here. Maybe because "at this very time" last year, there really wasn't much of a "Cassel Crowd" to speak of. Looking back at the threads at that time, one titled "Do you trust Matt Cassell?" yielded universally negative responses.
mannc Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Maybe because "at this very time" last year, there really wasn't much of a "Cassel Crowd" to speak of. Looking back at the threads at that time, one titled "Do you trust Matt Cassell?" yielded universally negative responses. It's amazing how many pro-OBD posts here rely upon straw men.
BillsVet Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Since when have you praised ANYONE at ANYTIME when it comes to this team. Just keep your comfort chair in the NNN's that is where we like you....anything else im gonna get hit with a cat or a dog falling from the sky. John, whatever happened to "show me the baby?" You gotta make the playoffs to earn cred. Talking about making it, no matter how new the person is, ain't cutting it. Unless you're content with .500 or below, which is a possibility with the results optional/team first/no accountability crowd.
The Big Cat Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 It's amazing how many pro-OBD posts here rely upon straw men. Strawmen like: because nobody in July supported Cassel, then nobody supported Cassel, ever? Or are we--sans links--meant to trust Weo's research, that his assessment of the Cassel sentiment was true to reality? And distrust = strawmen? Which strawmen did you mean, specifically?
John from Riverside Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 John, whatever happened to "show me the baby?" You gotta make the playoffs to earn cred. Talking about making it, no matter how new the person is, ain't cutting it. Unless you're content with .500 or below, which is a possibility with the results optional/team first/no accountability crowd. Then lets keep slamming the team at every turn and everyone associated with the team until that happens because of course.....that is going to fix the problem. Whaley is absolutely not the issue here.....this is probably one of the most talented bills teams we we have ever had (sans the super bowl years) and Whaley is a big art of that. Rex was not hired by whaley......Rex is El Pegula's coach.....cant blame him for Rex. Strawmen like: because nobody in July supported Cassel, then nobody supported Cassel, ever? Or are we--sans links--meant to trust Weo's research, that his assessment of the Cassel sentiment was true to reality? And distrust = strawmen? Which strawmen did you mean, specifically? What is a strawman anyway?
thebandit27 Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 John, whatever happened to "show me the baby?" You gotta make the playoffs to earn cred. Talking about making it, no matter how new the person is, ain't cutting it. Unless you're content with .500 or below, which is a possibility with the results optional/team first/no accountability crowd. His point is very simple: there is a marked difference between "this team isn't good enough" and "nothing this team does is any good, ever". Many folks, including yourself, appear to express solely the latter sentiment, which isn't true at all.
FireChan Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Then lets keep slamming the team at every turn and everyone associated with the team until that happens because of course.....that is going to fix the problem. Whaley is absolutely not the issue here.....this is probably one of the most talented bills teams we we have ever had (sans the super bowl years) and Whaley is a big art of that. Rex was not hired by whaley......Rex is El Pegula's coach.....cant blame him for Rex. What is a strawman anyway? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+a+straw+man+
mannc Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 Strawmen like: because nobody in July supported Cassel, then nobody supported Cassel, ever? Or are we--sans links--meant to trust Weo's research, that his assessment of the Cassel sentiment was true to reality? And distrust = strawmen? Which strawmen did you mean, specifically? I'm not sure what you're talking about. In this case, I was referring to the strawman that, at least through training camp last year, there was widespread support here for Cassel as the starter or possible starting QB for the Bills. Like WEO, I recall no such widespread support, other than perhaps a couple of Buffalo News writers who were unmoved by the fact that Cassel did not throw a single pass more than 8 yards past the line of scrimmage; in fact, I recall the overwhelming majority here falling into the "ABC" camp.
The Big Cat Posted July 26, 2016 Posted July 26, 2016 I'm not sure what you're talking about. In this case, I was referring to the strawman that, at least through training camp last year, there was widespread support here for Cassel as the starter or possible starting QB for the Bills. Like WEO, I recall no such widespread support, other than perhaps a couple of Buffalo News writers who were unmoved by the fact that Cassel did not throw a single pass more than 8 yards past the line of scrimmage; in fact, I recall the overwhelming majority here falling into the "ABC" camp. Right, but just so we're all clear: The original posit was: Bills fans thought Cassel should be our quarterback. They were wrong. They should admit it. The response was: Overwhelming support for Cassel did NOT exist and therefore your posit is false. That response is the very definition of a strawman.
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