Jerry Jabber Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 http://247nflnews.com/10-reasons-tyrod-taylor-will-great-season/ Good article, but a little much on the kool-aid side.
PromoTheRobot Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 Which one is the Kool aid? They all look like legitimate reasons.
Augie Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 Which one is the Kool aid? They all look like legitimate reasons. I'd like to think they're all legit, too. If I had to pick one I'd say #7, we have Harvin's replacement. That's a bit optimistic, at least. But I'm crossing my fingers!
John from Riverside Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 Which one is the Kool aid? They all look like legitimate reasons. The only point I had a problem with was number 7. Only because it is a complete unknown....you cant comment on something as a positive (IMO) until you actually seen that it has actually worked. While I sip my Kool Aid I am hoping that Dez Lewis (or one of the other younger vet WR's but I am really hoping its Lewis) makes the leap of progression from year 1 to year 2 and becomes that 3rd wideout......and then continues that progression the following year when Woods probably gets a free agent offer he cannot refuse. Lewis had all the physical attributes you dream about when your hoping for a proto wideout when we drafted him.....he was just sooooo raw. If he learn to run the whole route tree and be consistant we will have a player who can take advantage of the attention Sammy is gonna get. but we have to see it first
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 if he doesn't improve in the pocket and on short routes he will not.
John from Riverside Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 if he doesn't improve in the pocket and on short routes he will not. I actually thought TT was getting better in the pocket as the season went on..... As for short routes....what I really want to see is him not taking off and running for that short yardage and utiliing his receivers BUT showing threat of that to confuse defenses. It was like a commentator said during a game last year.......the defense against TT can do everything perfectly......cover up every target....not mix up any communication.....then TT would simply just jet off for a first down. I think he should still do that.....but ONLY if all targets are covered
Jerry Jabber Posted July 23, 2016 Author Posted July 23, 2016 Which one is the Kool aid? They all look like legitimate reasons. #7. Expecting anything out of Goodwin and Listenbee this is too much. Goodwin can't stay healthy and expecting anything from a 6th round pick is very premature. Otherwise I feel all the points are valid.
chris heff Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 People complain when we have a QB that throws short too much, now complaining because QB throws long too much. Harvin? How many games did he play last year? Five?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 I actually thought TT was getting better in the pocket as the season went on..... As for short routes....what I really want to see is him not taking off and running for that short yardage and utiliing his receivers BUT showing threat of that to confuse defenses. It was like a commentator said during a game last year.......the defense against TT can do everything perfectly......cover up every target....not mix up any communication.....then TT would simply just jet off for a first down. I think he should still do that.....but ONLY if all targets are covered I think the Flutie effect will get him this yr but hopefully not, guess we will find out. People complain when we have a QB that throws short too much, now complaining because QB throws long too much. Harvin? How many games did he play last year? Five? That's because some could only throw short. The key to being a great QB is using the whole field to your advantage so defenses can't key on what you are doing. Right now TT has a great deep game but poor short game and that is not a recipe for success.
nikuman Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 I agree that #7 is optimistic, at best.....but am I the only one who believes that we're going to miss Hogan a whole lot more than Harvin? I hope that losing Harvin to NE doesn't come back to bite us.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 I agree that #7 is optimistic, at best.....but am I the only one who believes that we're going to miss Hogan a whole lot more than Harvin? I hope that losing Harvin to NE doesn't come back to bite us. Hogan was solid but not great, we still need a real number two, hopefully someone steps up.
chris heff Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 I think the Flutie effect will get him this yr but hopefully not, guess we will find out. That's because some could only throw short. The key to being a great QB is using the whole field to your advantage so defenses can't key on what you are doing. Right now TT has a great deep game but poor short game and that is not a recipe for success. When they keyed on the long game we ran the ball. Brady hasn't had a long game in years, is he no longer great?
Jerry Jabber Posted July 23, 2016 Author Posted July 23, 2016 Hogan was solid but not great, we still need a real number two, hopefully someone steps up. Agree 100% still wish the Bills would sign Boldin.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 Hogan was solid but not great, we still need a real number two, hopefully someone steps up. I am hoping Woods surprises you this year. He's a good number 2 with this system. It might be the only system in the league where his skills match perfectly for that role. Now that he's healthy, let's see what the guy can do.
BuffaloBill Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 #7. Expecting anything out of Goodwin and Listenbee this is too much. Goodwin can't stay healthy and expecting anything from a 6th round pick is very premature. Otherwise I feel all the points are valid. Listonbee especially... It is rare for rookie receivers to excel...
Jerry Jabber Posted July 23, 2016 Author Posted July 23, 2016 I am hoping Woods surprises you this year. He's a good number 2 with this system. It might be the only system in the league where his skills match perfectly for that role. Now that he's healthy, let's see what the guy can do. Woods is a great blocker and does great in the type of offense Roman is running (run first). But Woods needs to be more consistent with his route running and pass catching. I know he had a bad groin injury last season, so we'll see if he can truly be the #2 WR the Bills need him to be.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 Woods is a great blocker and does great in the type of offense Roman is running (run first). But Woods needs to be more consistent with his route running and pass catching. I know he had a bad groin injury last season, so we'll see if he can truly be the #2 WR the Bills need him to be. Agree he needs to show it. But he's a fantastic route runner and has good hands -- both of which he's demonstrated. The fact he'll be playing for a contract should only motivate him further. Should be fun to see.
3rdand12 Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 Agree he needs to show it. But he's a fantastic route runner and has good hands -- both of which he's demonstrated. The fact he'll be playing for a contract should only motivate him further. Should be fun to see. Woods is great route runner has good hands.Knows the play,and then blocks well when called upon. Marrone/Hackett use to run him into traffic to much imo. If TT can lead him he will probably shine. I have seen him get behind coverage even. One of those players if you don't watch, can give you alot of trouble. If the groin is good ( as it seems to be healed) he will likely play himself off the team. Tyrod has has work cut out for him. I really do not mind if Roman takes small steps forward with him, as long as they keep moving forward. TT is already successful in my book !
BADOLBILZ Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Woods is great route runner has good hands.Knows the play,and then blocks well when called upon. Marrone/Hackett use to run him into traffic to much imo. If TT can lead him he will probably shine. I have seen him get behind coverage even. One of those players if you don't watch, can give you alot of trouble. If the groin is good ( as it seems to be healed) he will likely play himself off the team. Tyrod has has work cut out for him. I really do not mind if Roman takes small steps forward with him, as long as they keep moving forward. TT is already successful in my book ! His hands were shaky last year.......not in terms of drops but he had some bobbles that cost him yardage.......a big deal for an offense that was struggling to string together first downs. Of course he couldn't run after the catch at all.......he just took a step and fell on his face most of the time. That was later blamed on a groin injury so I am expecting a huge jump in RAC yards this season. With a star WR opposite him drawing a lot of extra attention and in his walk year he should have a career year so we will find out what he is capable of. But to now........he's been a big disappointment for one drafted early in round 2, coming in with a ton of pro-style offense experience and considered a first round prospect by many. Edited July 24, 2016 by #BADOL
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 His hands were shaky last year.......not in terms of drops but he had some bobbles that cost him yardage.......a big deal for an offense that was struggling to string together first downs. Of course he couldn't run after the catch at all.......he just took a step and fell on his face most of the time. That was later blamed on a groin injury so I am expecting a huge jump in RAC yards this season. With a star WR opposite him drawing a lot of extra attention and in his walk year he should have a career year so we will find out what he is capable of. But to now........he's been a big disappointment for one drafted early in round 2, coming in with a ton of pro-style offense experience and considered a first round prospect by many. "Later blamed on a groin injury"... Trolling right along.
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