maddenboy Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) Soooooooooo Now we will have had the TOP 3 DRAFT PICKS from 2006. championship? Edited August 4, 2016 by maddenboy
Nick the Greek Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 Didn't the Saints win the Super Bowl during his tenure there?that was ages ago.. Especially for the RB position. He might as well be a dinosaur at this point. Running backs get beat into the ground.
Nanker Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 DUH! Gary McDermont wore it. What Bills fan doesn't know that? Oh yes. Yes. Of course... McDermont.
Gugny Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 that was ages ago.. Especially for the RB position. He might as well be a dinosaur at this point. Running backs get beat into the ground. Not on the Saints, they don't.
eball Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 Not on the Saints, they don't. Very true. I think Bush has got more mileage left on his tires than people think. He looked downright "spry" Tuesday night.
John from Riverside Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 Very true. I think Bush has got more mileage left on his tires than people think. He looked downright "spry" Tuesday night. Yes....but I would like to keep him looking that way.... There is no reason to overuse Bush....and frankly we need a ST's spark
NoSaint Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) Very true. I think Bush has got more mileage left on his tires than people think. He looked downright "spry" Tuesday night. for context, he has about 100 more offensive touches than freddy. probably more special teams wear and tear, but less blocking and less between the tackles hits (especially with those offensive touches skewed towards catches). theres no way he has a lot left at this point, but its not crazy to think he could have a solid season. Edited August 4, 2016 by NoSaint
John from Riverside Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 that was ages ago.. Especially for the RB position. He might as well be a dinosaur at this point. Running backs get beat into the ground. Actually it depends on the team....the Saints platoon their backs
eball Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 A few numbers: Bush: 1274 carries / 470 receptions (1744 touches) Shady: 1664 / 332 (1996) Arian Foster: 1454 / 249 (1703) Matt Forte: 2035 / 487 (2522) Adrian Peterson: 2381 / 238 (2619) Frank Gore: 2702 / 376 (3078) Jamaal Charles: 1320 / 283 (1603) If the knee is healed, there's no reason to suggest Bush can't be very productive. He's certainly not too "worn" by NFL standards.
YoloinOhio Posted August 4, 2016 Author Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) A few numbers: Bush: 1274 carries / 470 receptions (1744 touches) Shady: 1664 / 332 (1996) Arian Foster: 1454 / 249 (1703) Matt Forte: 2035 / 487 (2522) Adrian Peterson: 2381 / 238 (2619) Frank Gore: 2702 / 376 (3078) Jamaal Charles: 1320 / 283 (1603) If the knee is healed, there's no reason to suggest Bush can't be very productive. He's certainly not too "worn" by NFL standards. exactly, and his running style is avoiding contact, not running into contact (similar to Shady) which helps to prolong RB careers. I agree with another poster that he can be used in the passing game and 3rd downs. Edited August 4, 2016 by YoloinOhio
Nanker Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 I'm excited to have him on The Bills. With the **** storm we had at RB last year wrt injuries, it looks like we've got some quality depth should once the inevitable happens.
BADOLBILZ Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 A few numbers: Bush: 1274 carries / 470 receptions (1744 touches) Shady: 1664 / 332 (1996) Arian Foster: 1454 / 249 (1703) Matt Forte: 2035 / 487 (2522) Adrian Peterson: 2381 / 238 (2619) Frank Gore: 2702 / 376 (3078) Jamaal Charles: 1320 / 283 (1603) If the knee is healed, there's no reason to suggest Bush can't be very productive. He's certainly not too "worn" by NFL standards. If the Roman/Tyrod combination can turn two nobodies and a stubborn vet who wouldn't follow his blocking into one of the most productive running back trios in the league then I wouldn't put it past him getting another yard per touch out of Reggie than he's been putting up in recent seasons.
3rdand12 Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 A few numbers: Bush: 1274 carries / 470 receptions (1744 touches) Shady: 1664 / 332 (1996) Arian Foster: 1454 / 249 (1703) Matt Forte: 2035 / 487 (2522) Adrian Peterson: 2381 / 238 (2619) Frank Gore: 2702 / 376 (3078) Jamaal Charles: 1320 / 283 (1603) If the knee is healed, there's no reason to suggest Bush can't be very productive. He's certainly not too "worn" by NFL standards. good post. love me some perspective. and his injury was a fluke. ( I would have sued honestly) Concrete at the fields edge runoff? ) If the Roman/Tyrod combination can turn two nobodies and a stubborn vet who wouldn't follow his blocking into one of the most productive running back trios in the league then I wouldn't put it past him getting another yard per touch out of Reggie than he's been putting up in recent seasons. who cares about season avgs at this point. thats ridiculous and small minded. You are well versed and likely intelligent enough to consider what Reggie Bush might offer from the backfield. Its not going to be bell cow work where his YPC matter as much as him breaking a play, his blocking in PP and some checkdowns to save a play. F the stats. If he keeps a drive alive, or better yet can score, he is worth every penny.
BADOLBILZ Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 good post. love me some perspective. and his injury was a fluke. ( I would have sued honestly) Concrete at the fields edge runoff? ) who cares about season avgs at this point. thats ridiculous and small minded. You are well versed and likely intelligent enough to consider what Reggie Bush might offer from the backfield. Its not going to be bell cow work where his YPC matter as much as him breaking a play, his blocking in PP and some checkdowns to save a play. F the stats. If he keeps a drive alive, or better yet can score, he is worth every penny. It's a numbers game, 3+12. RB's have to do one of two things........run or block. If they don't do either.......without the threat of running or negating a free rusher.......they just become very low quality wide receivers......not a matchup advantage. According to data provided to TSW by concerned citizens.......Bush is a very poor at picking up the blitz. That is where his dismal 3.9 and 3.5 yards per carry figures from the past two seasons come into play. Defenses won't respect the running game if that's what you are trotting out there. But what I am saying is that I trust that Roman can get more out of Bush as a ball carrier than he showed in 2014 or 2015. Do you disagree with that?
NoSaint Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 A few numbers: Bush: 1274 carries / 470 receptions (1744 touches) Shady: 1664 / 332 (1996) Arian Foster: 1454 / 249 (1703) Matt Forte: 2035 / 487 (2522) Adrian Peterson: 2381 / 238 (2619) Frank Gore: 2702 / 376 (3078) Jamaal Charles: 1320 / 283 (1603) If the knee is healed, there's no reason to suggest Bush can't be very productive. He's certainly not too "worn" by NFL standards. Age is still a factor. But not impossible.
3rdand12 Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) It's a numbers game, 3+12. RB's have to do one of two things........run or block. If they don't do either.......without the threat of running or negating a free rusher.......they just become very low quality wide receivers......not a matchup advantage. According to data provided to TSW by concerned citizens.......Bush is a very poor at picking up the blitz. That is where his dismal 3.9 and 3.5 yards per carry figures from the past two seasons come into play. Defenses won't respect the running game if that's what you are trotting out there. But what I am saying is that I trust that Roman can get more out of Bush as a ball carrier than he showed in 2014 or 2015. Do you disagree with that? You know by now i am too dim, and pay little attention to statistics. Thats for Fantasy football. and i do not have any horses. scared of them actually. so no trotting of anything by this old man. I agree that Roman may get more key plays from the Vet Reggie Bush. will defenses respect his play making ability at first? I doubt it. Till he springs a run. Catches something outside the hashes and turns it. Depends on how Bills use him too. is he the "other " Shady ? Age is still a factor. But not impossible. a season off, much like Richie? But not like Richie Edited August 4, 2016 by 3rdand12
NoSaint Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 It's a numbers game, 3+12. RB's have to do one of two things........run or block. If they don't do either.......without the threat of running or negating a free rusher.......they just become very low quality wide receivers......not a matchup advantage. According to data provided to TSW by concerned citizens.......Bush is a very poor at picking up the blitz. That is where his dismal 3.9 and 3.5 yards per carry figures from the past two seasons come into play. Defenses won't respect the running game if that's what you are trotting out there. But what I am saying is that I trust that Roman can get more out of Bush as a ball carrier than he showed in 2014 or 2015. Do you disagree with that? I think he's a little better at everything you listed than your opinion would portray. That last year in Detroit I think he was in and out with a bum wheel and San Fran was a dumpster fire. He's been respectable at blitz pickup (watched a lot of him), he's not a starting WR but if you get him on a LB your getting a big play, and IF his legs are good he's a decent back that has had some success as a bell cow.
BADOLBILZ Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 I think he's a little better at everything you listed than your opinion would portray. That last year in Detroit I think he was in and out with a bum wheel and San Fran was a dumpster fire. He's been respectable at blitz pickup (watched a lot of him), he's not a starting WR but if you get him on a LB your getting a big play, and IF his legs are good he's a decent back that has had some success as a bell cow. His rushing numbers aren't my opinion and the blocking data was not mine. Granted he has been injured a lot for the past two seasons......ahem........but success 3 years ago is a SOLID 3 years ago for a RB over 30. I think he probably is that sub 4.0 yards per rush guy anywhere else........but take the example of Frank Gore. Steady 4.2 guy with Roman.......immediately down to 3.7 in Indy without him. I think that Roman when teamed with a QB who is a run threat is probably worth AT LEAST a half yard per carry average over the course of a season because they create big play opportunities for their backs. If Bush can be a consistent run threat OR a steady blitz pickup guy then perhaps he can get favorable matchups like a LB in coverage(presumably not one of those 4.4 speed LB's). But if they just march him out to throw the ball to him he is going to be facing dime defenders on third downs who will handle him. What he does out of the backfield I don't know......maybe he just returns punts......... but scheme/talent wise, this is his best chance in the NFL to do something as a RB, IMO.
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