ExiledInIllinois Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 We started with race relations so let's develop that one and then go from there. I'm walking into Clydes in Vienna if anyone wants to join me for lunch and a drink in the area. Otherwise, I'll have to shelve this convo a few hours while I get my eat on. How is Vienna handling it? Taking pictures? Or is it Vienna, GA. Anybody in Georgia care to join him? Oh wait, you mean Austria. Those Austro-Barvarians can be some really racist mofos! I am joking not in a mean way... I might not agree with your choices, lifestyle, etc... Posting style is a bit over the top and laced with status driven nonsense, but I generally understand where you are coming from. This ain't no white man's guilt either... Most of the time we are our own worst enemies. You, me, Boyst and all the other jagweeds.
B-Man Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) And that's the rub on Obama, his instinct is to respond as a community activist,not the leader of the entire diverse nation. And over time, the population gets its queues from the top. Very well put. No matter what the situation, good or bad, the President always talks as part of the nation in his responses, never acting as a representative of ALL the people. . Edited July 9, 2016 by B-Man
Doc Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 You're afraid of getting pulled over because of the financial hardship? If there are those out there afraid of getting pulled over because the fines will put them in the "poorhouse" I have a suggestion. Don't speed, weave in traffic, drive impaired etc etc. See there's s reason there is a financial ramifications if you break the law. It's a deterrent. I've been driving for nearly 40 years and have gotten two speeding tickets. And if you do do those things and get pulled over/arrest, don't resist. You're infinitely more likely to not die if you don't.
CommonCents Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 http://m.townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2015/07/23/under-obama-blacks-are-worse-off--far-worse-n2028985 There's some statistics on home ownership, income, and employment...all of which have trended negatively in comparison to others.
IDBillzFan Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Very well put. No matter what the situation, good or bad, the President always talks as part of the nation in his responses, never acting as a representative of ALL the people.. Not to mention, he does not speak to all situations equally. He will be quick to judge that police 'acted stupidly' in arresting a black Harvard professor, or he'll explain how Trayvon could have been his son, or he'll explain how we must not rush to judgement when a Muslim murders 50 homosexuals. But let an innocent white girl get murdered by an illegal alien, or a 13-year-old Jewish American girl get murdered in her bed in Israel by a Palestinian terrorist, and you don't hear a thing. Not a peep. Nothing. Because it's never about America for Obama. It's always about Obama for Obama. Well, actually, it's about Obama, and fundraising, and golf. And then there is this from this morning: RickLeventhalFoxNewsVerified account@RickLeventhal At news conference, the President just named two people killed by police officers but does not name the five officers killed in Dallas. Edited July 9, 2016 by LABillzFan
Juror#8 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Very well put. No matter what the situation, good or bad, the President always talks as part of the nation in his responses, never acting as a representative of ALL the people. . Dude what the !@#$les?!? You spend your entire time on this board like on some, destruction, hate, democrats evil !@#$ing menace scourge of the seven seas ruinous cataclysmic current administration destroyed the beauty that bush left for the country and republicans perfect love joy, type shiiiiiiit. But then out-of-the-blue you say some semi-cogent, non-inflammatory, non-partisan, non-hater ****. I completely didn't think you had it in you. It's like you heard the Who's in Whoville singing and your "heart grew three sizes that day." Wow. Wtf. Go !@#$ing bman. How is Vienna handling it? Taking pictures? Or is it Vienna, GA. Anybody in Georgia care to join him? Oh wait, you mean Austria. Those Austro-Barvarians can be some really racist mofos! I am joking not in a mean way... I might not agree with your choices, lifestyle, etc... Posting style is a bit over the top and laced with status driven nonsense, but I generally understand where you are coming from. This ain't no white man's guilt either... Most of the time we are our own worst enemies. You, me, Boyst and all the other jagweeds. For real bro I'm hurt over this. What do you mean "status driven nonsense"? Nigga you mad cuz I'm rich? Ok full disclosure, I'm really a 5'4" Asian man with an underbite and a wooden foot. Don't let the intense swag or the c7 zo6 or the platona fool you. I'm hurt by your words brother. I'll be there for you baby You be there for me sweetheart I thought that we were meant to be for eternity I thought you love me baby Momma told me take it slow boy you just don't know anything about .......................... love If you and I were meant to be than you would and it show by the end of this song. Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) You're afraid of getting pulled over because of the financial hardship? If there are those out there afraid of getting pulled over because the fines will put them in the "poorhouse" I have a suggestion. Don't speed, weave in traffic, drive impaired etc etc. See there's s reason there is a financial ramifications if you break the law. It's a deterrent. I've been driving for nearly 40 years and have gotten two speeding tickets. You get tickets now for going 5 over. Redlight cams if you roll past the sensor. Etc... ticky tacky, over-officious jerks now. I hear... I was guilty of two tickets in the last 30 years. I usually get pulled over every 2-5 years and defend or get ticket tossed. Last Nov. Was one. Two summers ago a cracked windowshield on a fold down windshield Jeep... The officer simply did not know the Illinois motor vehicle code... Even though I showed him the law about cracks in the windshield and how it has to obstruct view of driver (on my phone @ state website) I got that ticket tossed, but it helped I fixed it too prior. The glass was still sound, I still would have liked to keep it in service. Ticky tacky, over-officious jerks. Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois
Juror#8 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) The data is easy to find. Unemployment levels for the black community, especially for young men is much worse. Violent crime, especially in major urban centers is on the upswing,after a decade long decline. To me, this is a repeat of the Dinkins administration disaster in NYC. There were a lot of hopes placed on him from the "community" and he was equally feckless in dealing with governing, because his natural response was to govern as if he was still an side advisor, rather than the mayor of the entire city. But he got a free pass, even though the city was on the verge of inferno. And that's the rub on Obama, his instinct is to respond as a community activist,not the leader of the entire diverse nation. And over time, the population gets its queues from the top. Not sure what your first five sentences have to do with race relations. Now whether or not you want to argue that the state of the black experience sociologically has gotten worse over the last 8 years, that's an arguable point that would require me to dig into some numbers and contrast them against the last 24 years for at least some level of respectable trend analysis. And there are some not-so-ancillary things irrespective of Obama that have occurred over the last 8-10 years like the Great Recession, the housing crises, etc., which should in theory implicate a worsening sociological circumstance for folks in lower income communities. Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8
B-Man Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Dude what the !@#$les?!? You spend your entire time on this board like on some, destruction, hate, democrats evil !@#$ing menace scourge of the seven seas ruinous cataclysmic current administration destroyed the beauty that bush left for the country and republicans perfect love joy, type shiiiiiiit. But then out-of-the-blue you say some semi-cogent, non-inflammatory, non-partisan, non-hater ****. I completely didn't think you had it in you. It's like you heard the Who's in Whoville singing and your "heart grew three sizes that day." Wow. Wtf. Go !@#$ing bman. LOL............... I looked this up in Websters...................and sure enough. too clever by half phrase of clever 1. informal annoyingly proud of one's intelligence or skill and in danger of overreaching oneself. Formal see: Juror#8 But seriously J-8, as you defended your posting style earlier, I have to laugh at your funny (but false) description of mine. Like YOLO on the football side, I simply post articles that I do not believe most people have read, so other viewpoints may be seen. Since the majority of posters here have probably seen the major media takes, my posts tend toward the conservative sites its true, but not always. I also try to avoid the direct (and too often confrontational) arguments that many posters here thrive on. I'm not here to "win" , like some posters are............ ......thats fine......to each his own. I hope you had a good lunch, probably was better than my toasted cheese sandwhich, I bet. . Edited July 9, 2016 by B-Man
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Dude what the !@#$les?!? You spend your entire time on this board like on some, destruction, hate, democrats evil !@#$ing menace scourge of the seven seas ruinous cataclysmic current administration destroyed the beauty that bush left for the country and republicans perfect love joy, type shiiiiiiit. But then out-of-the-blue you say some semi-cogent, non-inflammatory, non-partisan, non-hater ****. I completely didn't think you had it in you. It's like you heard the Who's in Whoville singing and your "heart grew three sizes that day." Wow. Wtf. Go !@#$ing bman. For real bro I'm hurt over this. What do you mean "status driven nonsense"? Nigga you mad cuz I'm rich? Ok full disclosure, I'm really a 5'4" Asian man with an underbite and a wooden foot. Don't let the intense swag or the c7 zo6 or the platona fool you. I'm hurt by your words brother. I'll be there for you baby You be there for me sweetheart I thought that we were meant to be for eternity I thought you love me baby Momma told me take it slow boy you just don't know anything about .......................... love If you and I were meant to be than you would and it show by the end of this song. No not mad at all. Just... Slow down, you crazy child You're so ambitious for a juvenile But then if you're so smart, then tell me Why are you still so afraid? Where's the fire, what's the hurry about? You'd better cool it off before you burn it out You've got so much to do And only so many hours in a day But you know that when the truth is told That you can get what you want or you get old You're gonna kick off before you even Get halfway through When will you realize, Vienna waits for you Slow down, you're doing fine You can't be everything you want to be Before your time Although it's so romantic on the borderline tonight Tonight, Too bad but it's the life you lead You're so ahead of yourself that you forgot what you need Though you can see when you're wrong, you know You can't always see when you're right. you're right You've got your passion, you've got your pride But don't you know that only fools are satisfied? Dream on, but don't imagine they'll all come true When will you realize, Vienna waits for you? Slow down, you crazy child And take the phone off the hook and disappear for awhile It's all right, you can afford to lose a day or two When will you realize, Vienna waits for you? And you know that when the truth is told That you can get what you want or you can just get old You're gonna kick off before you even get half through Why don't you realize, Vienna waits for you When will you realize, Vienna waits for you?
Juror#8 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) LOL............... I looked this up in Websters...................and sure enough. But seriously J-8, as you defended your posting style earlier, I have to laugh at your funny (but false) description of mine. Like YOLO on the football side, I simply post articles that I do not believe most people have read, so other viewpoints may be seen. Since the majority of posters here have probably seen the major media takes, my posts tend toward the conservative sites its true, but not always. I also try to avoid the direct (and too often confrontational) arguments that many posters here thrive on. I'm not here to "win" , like some posters are............ ......thats fine......to each his own. I hope you had a good lunch, probably was better than my toasted cheese sandwhich, I bet. . Haha!!! Touché You're good people bman. I give you shiiiiiiit but you're good people. I read the articles that you link because it contributes to the dialog. Jumbo lump crab cake sandwich was off the chain. I suggest it and Korean steak tacos if you ever get by Clydes. Not terribly expensive. Nice ambiance. At the one here in tysons there is a chick with, I believe, fake breasts who is a real pleasure to look at. Have a good weekend. And please have a better dinner than you did lunch. ;) Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) LOL............... I looked this up in Websters...................and sure enough. But seriously J-8, as you defended your posting style earlier, I have to laugh at your funny (but false) description of mine. Like YOLO on the football side, I simply post articles that I do not believe most people have read, so other viewpoints may be seen. Since the majority of posters here have probably seen the major media takes, my posts tend toward the conservative sites its true, but not always. I also try to avoid the direct (and too often confrontational) arguments that many posters here thrive on. I'm not here to "win" , like some posters are............ ......thats fine......to each his own. I hope you had a good lunch, probably was better than my toasted cheese sandwhich, I bet. . I have learned to appreciate your posting style as much as I have his... Now mine... If you can remotely begin to undetstand it! LMAO! ;-) Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois
Juror#8 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) No not mad at all. Just... Slow down, you crazy child You're so ambitious for a juvenile But then if you're so smart, then tell me Why are you still so afraid? Where's the fire, what's the hurry about? You'd better cool it off before you burn it out You've got so much to do And only so many hours in a day But you know that when the truth is told That you can get what you want or you get old You're gonna kick off before you even Get halfway through When will you realize, Vienna waits for you Slow down, you're doing fine You can't be everything you want to be Before your time Although it's so romantic on the borderline tonight Tonight, Too bad but it's the life you lead You're so ahead of yourself that you forgot what you need Though you can see when you're wrong, you know You can't always see when you're right. you're right You've got your passion, you've got your pride But don't you know that only fools are satisfied? Dream on, but don't imagine they'll all come true When will you realize, Vienna waits for you? Slow down, you crazy child And take the phone off the hook and disappear for awhile It's all right, you can afford to lose a day or two When will you realize, Vienna waits for you? And you know that when the truth is told That you can get what you want or you can just get old You're gonna kick off before you even get half through Why don't you realize, Vienna waits for you When will you realize, Vienna waits for you? Ok I can take this one of two ways, you're either in love with me or you think that I need to better observe the posted speed limit. Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Haha!!! Touché You're good people bman. I give you shiiiiiiit but you're good people. I read the articles that you link because it contributes to the dialog. Jumbo lump crab cake sandwich was off the chain. I suggest it and Korean steak tacos if you ever get by Clydes. Not terribly expensive. Nice ambiance. At the one here in tysons there is a chick with, I believe, fake breasts who is a real pleasure to look at. Have a good weekend. And please have a better dinner than you did lunch. ;) Let me guess... You aren't in Austria. ;-) Crap, why did you have to wreck it. I was picturing you hobbling along with your peg leg there! :-(Ok I can take this one of two ways, you're either in love with me or you think that I need to better observe the posted speed limit. Speed limit..... Of life. ;-) Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois
meazza Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Haha!!! Touché You're good people bman. I give you shiiiiiiit but you're good people. I read the articles that you link because it contributes to the dialog. Jumbo lump crab cake sandwich was off the chain. I suggest it and Korean steak tacos if you ever get by Clydes. Not terribly expensive. Nice ambiance. At the one here in tysons there is a chick with, I believe, fake breasts who is a real pleasure to look at. Have a good weekend. And please have a better dinner than you did lunch. ;) Pics?
Juror#8 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Let me guess... You aren't in Austria. ;-) Crap, why did you have to wreck it. I was picturing you hobbling along with your peg leg there! :-( Speed limit..... Of life. ;-) Brother I'm in a place where I'm aggressively humping the monkey breasts out of the American Dream. And I'm now in the vortex; I'm serious, I found the main nerve. Why the ballsack would I slow down or turn around now? Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8
Juror#8 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Pics? I left 30 minutes ago. But I think her name is Heather. Whatever her !@#$ing name is, she is legit. If I can ever get an above-board picture (when we do one of our Friday nights here monthly), I'll post it. **** why not ...
meazza Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 I left 30 minutes ago. But I think her name is Heather. Whatever her !@#$ing name is, she is legit. If I can ever get an above-board picture (when we do one of our Friday nights here monthly), I'll post it. **** why not ... Sure thing boss. I always figured you were a creeper
Juror#8 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Bwahahahahaha!!!! Sure thing boss. I always figured you were a creeper Yea yea. I tried to make a point of saying "above-board."
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