Williams speech/Alton/Philando/Dallas shootings

[Juror#8]

Many of you do not realize this but a fa!ily member is law enforcement in Dallas. Though, I knew that nothing would ever happen to her with a situation like this they were called out to work on this and it would not be good if violence got to her level; even terrorists like BLM would not attack that level of police.why?

Because i think knee jerk reaction based on a video after the fact is not the whole story? Because I believe outrage by morally upright folks thinking any of this justifies more violence and uproar?

If you want the system to work let the system work. Checks and balances used to exist and they would if a) we let the system work and b) if we didn't have an Obama administration above the Constitution working on a political agenda.

Save your time, put on your dress and go cheer soccer. I do not care one iota what you or your ilk think.

This whole this is a God damn shame and literally isn't affecting anyone but those looking to to stir more of this **** up. Sorry, Nancy.where did I display racism? Your idea that it is implied shows weak mindedness.

Why can I not think the woman filming was an idiot without race being an issue? It's people like you and RLB that always let race fall in to the conversation or deliberately inject it when it has no bearing what so ever.

As for RLB, his schtick was shown when Trayvon got what he deserved.where did I display racism? Your idea that it is implied shows weak mindedness.

Why can I not think the woman filming was an idiot without race being an issue? It's people like you and RLB that always let race fall in to the conversation or deliberately inject it when it has no bearing what so ever.

As for RLB, his schtick was shown when. Grayson got what he deserved.you're on to something, and if Meaza, RLB, Gator or others could focus enough to read long posts they'd call you a racist inferring that blacks and whites are judged differently.

Still, though, the amount of violence from police has not changed. Its just more reported. I'm why we have gone away from the tazer as well.it's so clear to anyone looking up the chain of command why this is happening and getting worse. It's sad Hillary is our next president and Obama backs her

Tell it like it is brother. Don't take any guff from these swine. It's so clear that racism would be solved if Romney were president. those officers wouldn't have shot those "brothas" in Minnesota and Baton Rouge, and there wouldn't have been a conflict with the traditionalist workers party in sacramento. Corruption wouldn't exist, Britain would still be in the eu and prince would be making music. Now instead of "change we can believe in" we are one step close to Andrew Macdonald's vision of the world. If HilLIAry is elected the country we will descend into debauchery and anarchy and a devolution that this world hasn't seen since Paleolithic man roamed the earth.

 

There is only one person that can stop this: DOnaL j. Trump

 

Just ask bman, who was obviously ass raped at some point by someone wearing a "vote democrat" sticker because that level of boneheaded, gaumless, myopic, incuriousness and inflexibility about the world doesnt arise naturally.

 

But just so it arose. Because he is our otter now. Telling objective, peer-reviewed, dispassionate, thoughtful, and well-considered truth to the masses every day here for 2 years and 545,875,390,218,553 posts.

Jackass

Was that supposed to be cathartic? Have you had dick today? Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Tell it like it is brother. Don't take any guff from these swine. It's so clear that racism would be solved if Romney were president. those officers wouldn't have shot those "brothas" in Minnesota and Baton Rouge, and there wouldn't have been a conflict with the traditionalist workers party in sacramento. Corruption wouldn't exist, Britain would still be in the eu and prince would be making music. Now instead of "change we can believe in" we are one step close to Andrew Macdonald's vision of the world. If HilLIAry is elected the country will descend into debauchery and anarchy and a devolution that this world hasn't seen since Paleolithic man roamed the earth.

 

There is only one person that can stop this: DOnaL j. Trump

 

Just ask bman, who was obviously ass raped at some point by someone wearing a "vote democrat" sticker because that level of boneheaded, gaumless, myopic, incuriousness and inflexibility about the world doesnt arise naturally.

 

But just so it arose. Because he is our otter now. Telling objective, peer-reviewed, dispassionate, thoughtful, and well-considered truth to the masses every day here for 2 years and 545,875,390,218,553 posts.

 

Was that supposed to be cathartic? Have you had dick today?

I'm sorry did I offend you?

[GG]

The escalation is a joint venture between blm, the president, and Sterling. That's where the blame should be properly placed. Can't believe that the president hasn't issued a statement on any of this that happened in Dallas. He was quick to speak on the two "niggas" while he was in Warsaw but nothing about heroes in Dallas?? He is probably golfing or planning his next effort to destroy centuries old traditions in this country.

You can joke about it all you want to but that didn't absolve the lack of leadership at the top.

 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/after-dallas-leadership-1468017672

 

"The demonization of law enforcement will lead to more violence"

[Juror#8]

I'm sorry did I offend you?

I'm sorry did I offend you?

Offend? Oh sweetie pie it appears that the inanity in your thoughts can only be outweighed by your boisterous sense of self-importance.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Offend? Oh sweetie pie it appears that the inanity in your thoughts can only be outweighed by your boisterous sense of self-importance.

Well if you're finding my opinions inane then I know I'm right. Keep an eye out for those pigs bruh.

[Juror#8]

You can joke about it all you want to but that didn't absolve the lack of leadership at the top. http://www.wsj.com/articles/after-dallas-leadership-1468017672

So I was finally able to draw out "the master." The one that la and joe and the kitty, and others try to be like but just can't quite cut it. It's like finally getting past the second bald bull and facing off against Mr. Sandman.

 

Alright, I'll play.

 

But who is joking? I'm saying that Obama is responsible for all this and he has failed where all other presidents have succeeded wildly. You obviously feel differently. Why?

Well if you're finding my opinions inane then I know I'm right. Keep an eye out for those pigs bruh.

Thanks joe!! You are America.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

So I was finally able to draw out "the master." The one that la and joe and the kitty, and others try to be like but just can't quite cut it. It's like finally getting past the second bald bull and facing off against Mr. Sandman.

 

Alright, I'll play.

 

But who is joking? I'm saying that Obama is responsible for all this and he has failed where all other presidents have succeeded wildly. You obviously feel differently. Why?

 

Thanks joe!! You are America.

Not any more.

[Juror#8]

Not any more.

True. So then take it back, joe. read your pierce novels more ambitiously.

Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8

[GG]

So I was finally able to draw out "the master." The one that la and joe and the kitty, and others try to be like but just can't quite cut it. It's like finally getting past the second bald bull and facing off against Mr. Sandman.

 

Alright, I'll play.

 

But who is joking? I'm saying that Obama is responsible for all this and he has failed where all other presidents have succeeded wildly. You obviously feel differently. Why?

 

Thanks joe!! You are America.

Good maybe now you'll address the root causes and not the symptoms. Where have I claimed that other leaders had succeeded? But I an pointing out that things have gotten worse during Obama administration, because he can't figure out how leadership matters and actions have consequences.

 

There are parallels to the sixties. There's also a parallel to DeBlasio. And the parallels are weak ass pandering leaders at the top.

[Juror#8]

Good maybe now you'll address the root causes and not the symptoms. Where have I claimed that other leaders had succeeded? But I an pointing out that things have gotten worse during Obama administration, because he can't figure out how leadership matters and actions have consequences.

There are parallels to the sixties. There's also a parallel to DeBlasio. And the parallels are weak ass pandering leaders at the top.

You didn't. It's adverse inference.

 

But you're making declarative statements (gotten worse under current administration). Since you're obviously a smart guy and one of the ten or so posters that I actually and sincerely enjoy reading on his board, I'm sure that that statement is substantiated by some testimonial evidence or statistical support.

 

Care to share what that is since it would seem to be dispositive to your thesis?

[GG]

You didn't. It's adverse inference.

But you're making declarative statements (gotten worse under current administration). Since you're obviously a smart guy and one of the ten or so posters that I actually and sincerely enjoy reading on his board, I'm sure that that statement is substantiated by some testimonial evidence or statistical support.

Care to share what that is since it would seem to be dispositive to your thesis?

Take your pick.

 

Economic conditions for minorities? Race relations? Violence in inner cities?

 

Obama has been a wet dream for liberal social policies. How has that worked out? Wouldn't this be a good time to reconsider that the two -generational social policies to be utter failures?

[Juror#8]

And kudos to you for admitting that no one has yet solved this riddle. It's such a breath of fresh air as compared to the dolts who seem to think that disharmony started in 2008. Seriously, I can't take those people serious. The current administration hasn't been nearly what people hoped it would be but it hasn't been any better or worse than the 8 years before it. For every Libya someone can raise you an Iraq. And for every financial crises someone can raise a housing crises.

 

It's politics man. That's what these !@#$ers do. They do "ineffectual" better than anyone. They do "stone-walling" better than anyone. But this idea that one man or one party has a monopoly on it is so ahistorical and it's judgmentally incompetent bordering on retardation. The personalization of politics by one-sided hate peddlers like bman is just disgusting.

 

With that said, I'd love to see your support for the idea that the current administration has made the climate worse.

Edited July 9, 2016 by Juror#8

[ExiledInIllinois]

I fear the police and I am white... But I give in and try to keep my nose clean. I try to follow the law to best of my ability. What I fear is being financially strapped by needless enforcement. If you drive a car, you know it only takes making a simple screw up to cause you financial hardship. I am pretty well off, just imagine if one is scratching to get by while being caught in a departments revenue generating machine.

 

I fear the police. Everybody is one misstep away from ruin with them. I guess it is the same with people's feelings toward gov't. One eff up away from a world of pain.

 

Don't tread on me?

[B-Man]

The Attacks in Dallas Won’t Be the Last

 

by Jack Dunphy

 

On Friday, in speaking of the previous night’s atrocity, President Obama said, “I believe that I speak for every single American when I say that we are horrified over these events and that we stand united with people and the police department in Dallas.” One need only wade ankle-deep into some of the more septic regions of the Internet to know that not all Americans share this sentiment, and that indeed there are those who have no qualms about taking to Twitter and elsewhere to laud the killer and celebrate his crimes. But why?

 

Perhaps it is because they have been led to believe the lies peddled by the Black Lives Matter movement, to wit, that the greatest menace to black people in America is that posed by racist and trigger-happy police officers looking for the merest excuse to gun them down. Just before the shooting began in Dallas, marchers were repeating what has become the standard chant at such events: “Hands up, don’t shoot.” This of course is what Michael Brown is falsely claimed to have said before he was shot to death in Ferguson, Mo. When the truth finally emerged, that Brown had committed a robbery and attempted to disarm the officer who shot him, it was too late to stop the lie that persists to this day.

 

And it persists, sadly, with the aid of President Obama himself, who, even as he spoke on the horrors in Dallas, could not resist the impulse to refer to the “racial disparities in our criminal justice system.” These disparities are a myth, and the president either knows this and lies about it, or he is so steeped in leftist ideology that he is content to remain ignorant of the truth.

Proof of this truth is laid out in Heather Mac Donald’s new book, The War on Cops: How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe, which couldn’t have been published at a more opportune time. https://www.amazon.com/War-Cops-Attack-Order-Everyone/dp/1594038759?ie=UTF8&ref_=asap_bc

 

I am aware that the toxic opinions expressed in the Twitter posts linked above are held by a tiny minority of Americans, but as was proven in Dallas, even one man alone can do a lot of damage. On Friday, police officers were shot in Valdosta, Ga., and Ballwin, Mo. We can find some satisfaction in knowing that as of this writing both officers are alive and their attackers are in custody, but that satisfaction is tempered in the knowledge that these attacks will surely not be the last.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

 

— “Jack Dunphy” is the pseudonym of a police officer in southern California.

[Juror#8]

Take your pick.

Economic conditions for minorities? Race relations? Violence in inner cities?

Obama has been a wet dream for liberal social policies. How has that worked out? Wouldn't this be a good time to reconsider that the two -generational social policies to be utter failures?

We started with race relations so let's develop that one and then go from there.

 

I'm walking into Clydes in Vienna if anyone wants to join me for lunch and a drink in the area. Otherwise, I'll have to shelve this convo a few hours while I get my eat on.

[IDBillzFan]

8 years ago, I wasn't very happy that a Democrat, whose ideas on foreign policy I really didn't agree with, was going to be our President............But, I was really proud of my country. And, figured on the plus side, this would really help race relations, and inspire the black community.

 

It's unreal to me that it has done just the opposite.

 

Your instincts and expectations were right on.

 

The problem is we elected the wrong black person to answer that call. Instead of a black person who could genuinely inspire and lead (of which there are many), we elected a person who would divide and rile, and at every turn have his surrogates explain that what you were seeing wasn't embarrassing personal failure at every level, but potentially high levels of success that were thwarted by racism.

 

By the time you factor in how much worse his policies have made life for minorities economically and professionally, what we're watching right now should surprise no one.

[Maury Ballstein]

I fear the police and I am white... But I give in and try to keep my nose clean. I try to follow the law to best of my ability. What I fear is being financially strapped by needless enforcement. If you drive a car, you know it only takes making a simple screw up to cause you financial hardship. I am pretty well off, just imagine if one is scratching to get by while being caught in a departments revenue generating machine.

I fear the police. Everybody is one misstep away from ruin with them. I guess it is the same with people's feelings toward gov't. One eff up away from a world of pain.

Don't tread on me?

anything you're not scared of?

 

White guy scared of the cops? That's a good one. Unless you have a pound of blow in the trunk why would you feel this way ?

Edited July 9, 2016 by Ryan L Billz

[Chef Jim]

The headline on Cnn.com is "Who Will Heal America?" Well it sure as hell isn't our leadership. They spend more time fighting among themselves and less time being actual leaders and solution providers. They're are all a bunch of !@#$ing idiots.

[GG]

With that said, I'd love to see your support for the idea that the current administration has made the climate worse.

The data is easy to find. Unemployment levels for the black community, especially for young men is much worse. Violent crime, especially in major urban centers is on the upswing,after a decade long decline.

 

To me, this is a repeat of the Dinkins administration disaster in NYC. There were a lot of hopes placed on him from the "community" and he was equally feckless in dealing with governing, because his natural response was to govern as if he was still an side advisor, rather than the mayor of the entire city. But he got a free pass, even though the city was on the verge of inferno.

 

And that's the rub on Obama, his instinct is to respond as a community activist,not the leader of the entire diverse nation. And over time, the population gets its queues from the top.

[Chef Jim]

I fear the police and I am white... But I give in and try to keep my nose clean. I try to follow the law to best of my ability. What I fear is being financially strapped by needless enforcement. If you drive a car, you know it only takes making a simple screw up to cause you financial hardship. I am pretty well off, just imagine if one is scratching to get by while being caught in a departments revenue generating machine.

 

I fear the police. Everybody is one misstep away from ruin with them. I guess it is the same with people's feelings toward gov't. One eff up away from a world of pain.

 

Don't tread on me?

 

You're afraid of getting pulled over because of the financial hardship?

 

If there are those out there afraid of getting pulled over because the fines will put them in the "poorhouse" I have a suggestion. Don't speed, weave in traffic, drive impaired etc etc. See there's s reason there is a financial ramifications if you break the law. It's a deterrent. I've been driving for nearly 40 years and have gotten two speeding tickets.