BarleyNY Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Seems like a typical Upper Arlington pretty boy to me. (That's for Yolo and the Cbus/Ohio guys.) Seriously though, the Cincy Bearcats have a decent program these days and this is his 5th pro team since coming out in 2014. I'm not sure how much he can be expected improve at this point. Seems like a longshot to make the team.
#34fan Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Wow.. You know your in the dog-days when the hottest topic is an undrafted, PS, TE that nobody's ever heard of... That said, I have a sincere question... Has this team completely given up on Nick O'leary??? I mean WTF... This kid was a bona-fide STAR at FSU... I've got to think that a legit OC would have a place for that somewhere... Disappointing.
Blokestradamus Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Wow.. You know your in the dog-days when the hottest topic is an undrafted, PS, TE that nobody's ever heard of... That said, I have a sincere question... Has this team completely given up on Nick O'leary??? I mean WTF... This kid was a bona-fide STAR at FSU... I've got to think that a legit OC would have a place for that somewhere... Disappointing. What he did in college stopped mattering the day after the draft. The truth is that he's a really average athlete with good hands. It really limits him that he's unable to get open vs NFL speed and most targets are schemed wide open or contested. I think he has a RZ skill set that we could use but his blocking has to get better to see looks at TE. I adored him at FSU and he's an easy guy to root for. I got a little sour on him because Bills fans pre-draft kept telling me he was the next superstar TE. I just think he'll get overlooked because teams will always be more intrigued by athletes and the idea that you can't teach speed.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 The best thing for O'Leary to do is hulk out and become a monster to make up for his lack of athleticism.
Fixxxer Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Seems like a typical Upper Arlington pretty boy to me. (That's for Yolo and the Cbus/Ohio guys.) Seriously though, the Cincy Bearcats have a decent program these days and this is his 5th pro team since coming out in 2014. I'm not sure how much he can be expected improve at this point. Seems like a longshot to make the team. In one of those vids it says he's replacing Travis Kelce, lets hope he learned a couple of things from him.
Blokestradamus Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 The best thing for O'Leary to do is hulk out and become a monster to make up for his lack of athleticism. He's always going to be struggling with his length but he has the mentality to become a pain in the arse as a blocker. 2nd half of the Notre Dame game, his senior year. Stayed in as a 6th OL on a lot of snaps and was probably their best blocker. I think Dray has the #2 role locked up (should be a good mentor for O'Leary too). I wouldn't be opposed to Nick spending another year on the PS.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 He's always going to be struggling with his length but he has the mentality to become a pain in the arse as a blocker. 2nd half of the Notre Dame game, his senior year. Stayed in as a 6th OL on a lot of snaps and was probably their best blocker. I think Dray has the #2 role locked up (should be a good mentor for O'Leary too). I wouldn't be opposed to Nick spending another year on the PS. agreed
3rdand12 Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 He's always going to be struggling with his length but he has the mentality to become a pain in the arse as a blocker. 2nd half of the Notre Dame game, his senior year. Stayed in as a 6th OL on a lot of snaps and was probably their best blocker. I think Dray has the #2 role locked up (should be a good mentor for O'Leary too). I wouldn't be opposed to Nick spending another year on the PS. This is close to my thinking also
YattaOkasan Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Any chance he pushes Dray for his position as blocker TE? He looked like a great blocker in the videos I saw (lined up as a HB/FB half the time and sprung a couple of big runs). Gragg would be our athletic TE.
Fixxxer Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 He's always going to be struggling with his length but he has the mentality to become a pain in the arse as a blocker. 2nd half of the Notre Dame game, his senior year. Stayed in as a 6th OL on a lot of snaps and was probably their best blocker. I think Dray has the #2 role locked up (should be a good mentor for O'Leary too). I wouldn't be opposed to Nick spending another year on the PS. agreed This is close to my thinking also Any chance he pushes Dray for his position as blocker TE? He looked like a great blocker in the videos I saw (lined up as a HB/FB half the time and sprung a couple of big runs). Gragg would be our athletic TE. It seems to be the case so far, we will see when they practice in pads. Without Clay throughout team drills, the Bills trotted Annen out with the first unit, along with Chris Gragg, when two tight ends were needed on a given play. That’s an interesting development, seeing as how Jim Dray was thought to be on solid ground of making the roster when they first signed him. http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-7-observations-from-day-3-of-2016-bills-minicamp
3rdand12 Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Mulligan or bust and they say " No man is an Island " LOL
26CornerBlitz Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 @JGreen_PRsports The .@buffalobills will have plenty of competition at backup TE in camp. One player to keep an eye on - Blake Annen. https://t.co/RWhv9Ec8oY
BarleyNY Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Without Clay throughout team drills, the Bills trotted Annen out with the first unit, along with Chris Gragg, when two tight ends were needed on a given play. Thats an interesting development, seeing as how Jim Dray was thought to be on solid ground of making the roster when they first signed him. http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-7-observations-from-day-3-of-2016-bills-minicamp That is scary. Quality TEs are tough to find and I was really hoping the Bills would find a decent (or better) one in the draft. Clay is pretty much it right now. We need one of the other TEs to step up as at least a good blocking TE. Edited July 12, 2016 by BarleyNY
bigK14094 Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Any chance he pushes Dray for his position as blocker TE? He looked like a great blocker in the videos I saw (lined up as a HB/FB half the time and sprung a couple of big runs). Gragg would be our athletic TE. I haven't seen Gragg bring it during his time here.........I can't get it out of my head him catching the ball from EJ standing 3 yards out of bounds against Jacksonville, and then laughing about it. And, for a receiver TE, he sure drops a lot of balls. imho, Gragg is a junior varisty TE.
Doc Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I haven't seen Gragg bring it during his time here.........I can't get it out of my head him catching the ball from EJ standing 3 yards out of bounds against Jacksonville, and then laughing about it. And, for a receiver TE, he sure drops a lot of balls. imho, Gragg is a junior varisty TE. I agree. I don't see Gragg making it. Annen has better size and speed anyway.
John from Riverside Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I agree. I don't see Gragg making it. Annen has better size and speed anyway. Gragg makes plays here and there but just has not been consistant. I like Dray a lot more then most actually.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 @JGreen_PRsports The .@buffalobills will have plenty of competition at backup TE in camp. One player to keep an eye on - Blake Annen. https://t.co/RWhv9Ec8oY here's hoping he can contribute.
White Linen Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 Wow.. You know your in the dog-days when the hottest topic is an undrafted, PS, TE that nobody's ever heard of... That said, I have a sincere question... Has this team completely given up on Nick O'leary??? I mean WTF... This kid was a bona-fide STAR at FSU... I've got to think that a legit OC would have a place for that somewhere... Disappointing. You were expecting stardom from a 6th round TE and can't understand why an undrafted player might be better - worth talking about over him?
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