Dr. Who Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) Don't be impatient. Nylander was the youngest hockey player in the AHL. It's just going to take time for him to physically mature. He comes from a hockey family so he knows what it takes to play in the big league. When he is ready, maybe in 2019, he is going to be a top two line player. This is the case where you have to trust the process and allow him the right amount of developmental time. Well, if you're a Buffalo sports' fan, you are forced to learn patience. I'm okay waiting. Edited March 14, 2017 by Dr. Who
4merper4mer Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Don't be impatient. Nylander was the youngest hockey player in the AHL. It's just going to take time for him to physically mature. He comes from a hockey family so he knows what it takes to play in the big league. When he is ready, maybe in 2019, he is going to be a top two line player. This is the case where you have to trust the process and allow him the right amount of developmental time. GMTM's process apparently is similar to the process of building the pyramids. If the guy sucks in the AHL, he probably sucks. Just because he had family in the pros doesn't mean much. Too many other of Murray's decisions have floundered for too long to assume any individual one will eventually flourish. Could it happen? Sure. But Murray's past results make it seem unlikely. He really needs to be shown the door and there is more than enough evidence of that.
GG Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/sabres-sign-defenseman Wow, WGR finally updated its website to the 20th century
JohnC Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Wow, WGR finally updated its website to the 20th century I was thrown off-balance by the new site. It has a more modern look to it. GMTM's process apparently is similar to the process of building the pyramids. If the guy sucks in the AHL, he probably sucks. Just because he had family in the pros doesn't mean much. Too many other of Murray's decisions have floundered for too long to assume any individual one will eventually flourish. Could it happen? Sure. But Murray's past results make it seem unlikely. He really needs to be shown the door and there is more than enough evidence of that. Getting rid of a developing player because of one's disgruntlement is simply stupid.
4merper4mer Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Getting rid of a developing player because of one's disgruntlement is simply stupid. I'm not advocating getting rid of Nylander. I'm advocating getting rid of the guy who picks guys like Nylander.
JohnC Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 I'm not advocating getting rid of Nylander. I'm advocating getting rid of the guy who picks guys like Nylander. Nylander was a terrific draft pick. If you want to criticize Murray in general that's fine. But to criticize him for picking a prospect who was selected where he should have been selected is foolish. He's not ready now and he probably won't be ready next year. But in the not too distant future he is going to be a prized player. You will probably still complain about that it took too long for him to be ready to play in the NHL. To each their own.
4merper4mer Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Nylander was a terrific draft pick. If you want to criticize Murray in general that's fine. But to criticize him for picking a prospect who was selected where he should have been selected is foolish. He's not ready now and he probably won't be ready next year. But in the not too distant future he is going to be a prized player. You will probably still complain about that it took too long for him to be ready to play in the NHL. To each their own. It is not my intent to complain about any one player. I'm just pointing out that Murray has made a lot of predictions and produced no results. Some players are good and some have failed. Overall the team is TERRIBLE. Continuing to believe the crass and obnoxious combined version of PT Barnum and a blind squirrel seems like a bad idea. Maybe he found a nut with Nylander but he is still a blind squirrel.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 John C, Snafu, Ricojes: Thanks for the good hockey talk and insight. I live in Atlanta where they put hockey below the WNBA. I am really looking forward to some young blood on the blue line. As far as top six, I was hoping Nylander would be ready for next year, but I heard he has been a disappointment so far. is that still around (homer Simpson voice)
shrader Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 John, you realize who you are arguing with, right?
JohnC Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 John, you realize who you are arguing with, right? I need to stop. Futile to engage. I would rather argue with you. More often than not when I get involved with you I come out learning something new. This season has been very disappointing---especially after entering the season with higher expectations. One of the benefits of this slide is that the Sabres might come out of this with a top tier prospect in this draft.
shrader Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 I need to stop. Futile to engage. I would rather argue with you. More often than not when I get involved with you I come out learning something new. This season has been very disappointing---especially after entering the season with higher expectations. One of the benefits of this slide is that the Sabres might come out of this with a top tier prospect in this draft. Have you looked at this year's draft much? I haven't, but I always see people saying it is weak. I just wonder if that is due to the lack of a true top guy or if it is across the draft as a whole. We've had an incredible run of top end guys in the draft in recent years, so it had to end sooner or later. This is the first time since 2011 (Nugent-Hopkins) and 2012 (Yakupov) where the top guy isn't hyped through the roof leading up to the draft. Hopefully there is something good there for us. I know we had the best player available talk a week or so back and they should be going that route again. I just hope that BPA just so happens to be a defenseman.
ricojes Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) John C, Snafu, Ricojes: Thanks for the good hockey talk and insight. I live in Atlanta where they put hockey below the WNBA. I am really looking forward to some young blood on the blue line. As far as top six, I was hoping Nylander would be ready for next year, but I heard he has been a disappointment so far. Nylander will be good and has been far from a disappointment, keep in mind he just turned 19 on March 2nd. He needs to fill out his frame a little, just like Reinhardt when he was drafted. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/columnist/roth/2017/01/12/roth-s-right-back-work-sabres-top-prospect/96511340/ Edited March 15, 2017 by ricojes
Dr. Who Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Nylander will be good and has been far from a disappointment, keep in mind he just turned 19 on March 2nd. He needs to fill out his frame a little, just like Reinhardt when he was drafted. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/columnist/roth/2017/01/12/roth-s-right-back-work-sabres-top-prospect/96511340/ Thanks for the link. That's encouraging.
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Have you looked at this year's draft much? I haven't, but I always see people saying it is weak. I just wonder if that is due to the lack of a true top guy or if it is across the draft as a whole. We've had an incredible run of top end guys in the draft in recent years, so it had to end sooner or later. This is the first time since 2011 (Nugent-Hopkins) and 2012 (Yakupov) where the top guy isn't hyped through the roof leading up to the draft. Hopefully there is something good there for us. I know we had the best player available talk a week or so back and they should be going that route again. I just hope that BPA just so happens to be a defenseman. Here's a good look at what players are excelling and are expected to be chosen at the top of the draft. Nolan Patrick has held the top spot all year despite being injured, but the kid from Switzerland has gained some ground. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/sportsnets-2017-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-january/
plenzmd1 Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 okay ...i am bored and stuck in an airport...trade Kane
snafu Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) okay ...i am bored and stuck in an airport...trade Kane What are your thoughts on the neutral zone trap? Edited March 15, 2017 by snafu
plenzmd1 Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) What are your thoughts on the neutral zone trap? love it and the dump and chase and waiting fo the other team to mistake style of hockey Edited March 15, 2017 by plenzmd1
snafu Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 love it and the dump and chase and waiting fo the other team to mistake style of hockey So we only disagree about Saison and Session beers then? Excellent. Safe travels.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 @BillHoppeNHL Now that I'm back from doing radio ... Report: #Sabres to face Rangers in New York Winter Classic http://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/report-sabres-face-rangers-new-york-winter-classic/ #Buffalo
26CornerBlitz Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 VS. SABRES (28-30-12) at KINGS (33-29-7)THU MAR 16, 2017 @ 10:30 PM ETTV: MSG-BRADIO: WGR 550Sabres Digital Press Box Game PreviewCURRENT INJURIES – (Man Games Lost: 339)Player (injury, first game missed) – total games missedCody McCormick (blood clots, Oct. 13; injured reserve) – 70 gamesJohan Larsson (wrist, Jan. 3; injured reserve) – 34 gamesWilliam Carrier (knee, Feb.4; injured reserve) – 20 gamesKyle Okposo (ribs, March 4) – 6 gamesDmitry Kulikov (upper body, March 5) – 5 gamesTRANSACTIONS IN PAST 7 DAYS3/13: Recalled F Hudson Fasching from Rochester (AHL)UPCOMING GAMESFriday, March 17: Buffalo at Anaheim, 10 p.m.Monday, March 20: Buffalo at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.Tuesday, March 21: Pittsburgh at Buffalo, 7 p.m.Saturday, March 25: Toronto at Buffalo, 7 p.m.Monday, March 27: Florida at Buffalo, 7 p.m.TONIGHT’S GAMESABRES at KINGSThis is the second of two meetings between the Sabres and Kings this season.Last meeting: Buffalo defeated Los Angeles 6-3 in Buffalo on Dec. 13, 2016The Sabres are 6-3-1 in their last 10 games vs. the Kings; 2-7-1 on the roadThis is the 121st game all-time between Buffalo and Los Angeles; Buffalo has a 59-42-19 series record.The Sabres are 24-26-10 on the road against the Kings all-time.Morning Skate: March 16, 2017 at 2:30 pm – 3:30 pm at Staples Center @BuffaloSabres Sabres looking for consistency entering final stretch of games: http://bufsabres.co/OlA0Dt
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