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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Nice to see that this has been a smooth transition since the referendum was passed.

It would have been much quieter to let the commies remain in control.

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1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

It would have been much quieter to let the commies remain in control.

 

Yup.  Dead people don't make too much noise.

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No, Boris Johnson isn't defeated

American Thinker, by Monica Showalter

 

Original Article

 

 

U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson's loss of his Tory parliamentary majority, done very theatrically by the British equivalent of RINOs, just as he was speaking to parliament, was billed as a disastrous defeat for his Brexit agenda. Brendan O'Neill at Spiked wrote this:

Tonight’s vote by MPs to seize control of the parliamentary agenda in order to prevent a No Deal Brexit is not, as they claim, a wonderful assertion of parliamentary sovereignty against a dictatorial executive led by Boris Johnson.

 

No, it is an assertion of the political elite’s arrogant authority over the people. If MPs have seized power from anyone this evening, it is from us, the public, the millions who voted to leave the EU. This is not parliament vs the executive – this is parliament vs the people, and it opens up one of the greatest, most troublesome constitutional crises of modern times.

 

He's right, of course. And Johnson himself understood the implication, tweeting this yesterday:

 

Because yes, if thing stand as they do now, delays will go on into eternity, each deadline pushed back, and an exit from the European Union impossible. The EU, of course, will notice this and just keep throwing up a wall of resistance to a deal to ensure that Britain stays, like it or not, or else keep moving the goalposts - into eternity. When delays are endless, what an opportunity. These useless satraps have nothing better to do, after all. They like the pounds flowing in. And such a coincidence: the parliamentary betrayal happened on the 80th anniversary of France and Germany declaring war on BritainPlus ça change...

 

What happened Tuesday certainly involves complicated parliamentary maneuvers, and the people writing of such disappointment do understand how these stakes work.

 

That said, it seems that the worst that can happen is that the country will be forced into a general election - very soon. Johnson says that's what he wants. There's actually reason to think that Labour may just try to stop him. But it's likely he'll succeed.

 

Advantage Boris.



Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/no_boris_johnson_isnt_defeated.html#ixzz5yZF5vLvQ 

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(because the idea of the people having a say in their government is a mirage -- and that's EXACTLY what the establishment wants to create in the US... they are close to pulling that off, with cheers from the left and TDS sufferers)

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BRITAIN: Why Remoaners are so terrified of a General Election: These anti-democrats fear the judgement of the people. And they’re right to fear it. 

 

“What a momentous self-own.

 

They have literally traipsed through the streets saying ‘Britain is a dictatorship’ and ‘Boris has stolen our democracy’.

 

Now, Boris hasn’t only disproven this claptrap (dictators don’t usually suggest holding an election). He has also helped to expose the fact that if anyone is agitated and even disgusted by the idea of democracy right now, it isn’t the imaginary jackbooted generals of Downing Street – it’s the pseudo-democratic Remainer elite.”

 
 
 
 
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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

At this point, the EU probably can't wait for them to leave.

 

Yes, the EU Parlimentary procedure flow chart is much simpler.

 

 

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Not a good day for Boris Johnson.  His porogation was knocked down by the UK Supreme Court.

Did you know that the UK doesn't have a written Constitution.  I didn't.  I wonder if the UK Supreme Court review was lawful.  How do you know which branch of Government has primacy over a particular matter if there's no rules of the road?

 

Anyhow, I looked it up, and the shortest serving PM was George Canning (April–August 1827) (119 days).

Johnson may actually set a new record the way he's getting batted around ever since he took office (July 24).  If he's out on or before 11/11/19, then he will have set the record.

 

 

 

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GOING (PRO)ROGUE

Today comes word that the United Kingdom’s Supreme Court has ruled Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s proroguing of Parliament unconstitutional. I thought only our Supreme Court was able to act in such a blatantly high-handed fashion. Here at the Spectator and here at Spectator USA, however, Richard Ekins anticipated this result a few days ago:

Who runs Britain? When Boris Johnson’s lawyers made their case in front of the Supreme Court this week, defending his right to prorogue parliament, they in effect brought it back to this simple question. This was a controversy for politicians to settle, not courts. Judges, they said, should think twice about ‘entering the political arena’ and unsettling the UK’s ‘careful constitutional and political balance’. He may be the first prime minister to frame the matter so starkly, but no previous prime minister has had to. This is about far more than Brexit. Britain is witnessing political litigation on a hitherto unseen scale.

 

We have a government that has lost a working majority and is being forced by legislation to act against its own central policy. We have a House of Commons that nonetheless refuses to withdraw confidence in the government or allow a general election. We have the Queen who, in Balmoral a few weeks before, granted through her privy council an order to prorogue parliament: a politically controversial decision but in one way a standard procedure. And we have a great many lawyers now seeking to reverse that prorogation by court order.

 

In the recent past, it would have been laughable to think this could be secured through the courts. But as we have seen, anything is possible — which is why the Supreme Court has this week been asked to consider whether the prime minister acted lawfully when he advised the Queen to prorogue parliament. This is what makes it, in effect, a question about who governs. It’s a question that involves almost all the working parts of the UK’s unwritten constitution. It cuts to the heart of how our democracy functions, with relationships between crown, government and parliament all in the spotlight, not to mention differences between Scottish and English courts. It is the constitutional equivalent of a perfect storm.

 

 

Whole thing here (Spectator UK) and here (Spectator USA).

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/going-prorogue.php

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

GOING (PRO)ROGUE

Today comes word that the United Kingdom’s Supreme Court has ruled Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s proroguing of Parliament unconstitutional. I thought only our Supreme Court was able to act in such a blatantly high-handed fashion. Here at the Spectator and here at Spectator USA, however, Richard Ekins anticipated this result a few days ago:

Who runs Britain? When Boris Johnson’s lawyers made their case in front of the Supreme Court this week, defending his right to prorogue parliament, they in effect brought it back to this simple question. This was a controversy for politicians to settle, not courts. Judges, they said, should think twice about ‘entering the political arena’ and unsettling the UK’s ‘careful constitutional and political balance’. He may be the first prime minister to frame the matter so starkly, but no previous prime minister has had to. This is about far more than Brexit. Britain is witnessing political litigation on a hitherto unseen scale.

 

We have a government that has lost a working majority and is being forced by legislation to act against its own central policy. We have a House of Commons that nonetheless refuses to withdraw confidence in the government or allow a general election. We have the Queen who, in Balmoral a few weeks before, granted through her privy council an order to prorogue parliament: a politically controversial decision but in one way a standard procedure. And we have a great many lawyers now seeking to reverse that prorogation by court order.

 

In the recent past, it would have been laughable to think this could be secured through the courts. But as we have seen, anything is possible — which is why the Supreme Court has this week been asked to consider whether the prime minister acted lawfully when he advised the Queen to prorogue parliament. This is what makes it, in effect, a question about who governs. It’s a question that involves almost all the working parts of the UK’s unwritten constitution. It cuts to the heart of how our democracy functions, with relationships between crown, government and parliament all in the spotlight, not to mention differences between Scottish and English courts. It is the constitutional equivalent of a perfect storm.

 

 

Whole thing here (Spectator UK) and here (Spectator USA).

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/going-prorogue.php

 

The elites STILL seeking to undermine the will of the people.

 

It's the failure of democracy here and abroad.

 

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