Brexit

[Golden Goat]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Although British leaders have failed to find a consensus on how to make Brexit work, Sunday's European elections seemed to prove that Brits still at least agree that they want Brexit.

 

Moral of the story: Don't ***** with decisions made at the ballot box.

[Prickly Pete]

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/05/26/new-brexit-party-n2546914

 

Although British leaders have failed to find a consensus on how to make Brexit work, Sunday's European elections seemed to prove that Brits still at least agree that they want Brexit. Nigel Farage, a leading force behind Brexit who left politics shortly after the successful 2016 referendum, returned about seven weeks ago with his new Brexit Party to try and get the process back on track. 

 

Despite its infancy, the Brexit Party won 31.6 percent of the vote on Sunday. The Liberal Democrats came in second and Labour came in third, while the Conservative Party, the current one in government, came in an embarrassing fifth place.

 

 

 

To borrow a phrase I see from many a SJW...

"This is important"

 

Edited May 27, 2019 by OJ Tom

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/05/26/new-brexit-party-n2546914

 

Although British leaders have failed to find a consensus on how to make Brexit work, Sunday's European elections seemed to prove that Brits still at least agree that they want Brexit. Nigel Farage, a leading force behind Brexit who left politics shortly after the successful 2016 referendum, returned about seven weeks ago with his new Brexit Party to try and get the process back on track. 

 

Despite its infancy, the Brexit Party won 31.6 percent of the vote on Sunday. The Liberal Democrats came in second and Labour came in third, while the Conservative Party, the current one in government, came in an embarrassing fifth place.

 

 

Apparantly, the labour party and conservatives are split on Brexit so here are the actual results up to this point.  My main takeaway is the parties that were clear on their brexit position gained seats.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

There is a scramble going on now to form a pro-EU coalition (which they will probably do as to do otherwise would really hurt the EU). The people running to replace Juncker (who was most displeased with how the people voted in these elections) are almost all pro-EU (LOL They call themselves "pro-Europe" - marketing, always marketing)
 

European elections: Total EMBARRASSMENT for Juncker as EU elite lose grip on control
 

EUROPEAN Union voters last night left Brussels’ stagnating elite bloody-nosed as millions called for a radical shake-up of the bloc.
 

Brussels’ traditional elite lost its iron grip on the bloc as votes for eurosceptics, reformists and climate activists surged. An unusually high voter turnout saw Jean-Claude Juncker’s centre-right European People’s Party and the centre-left Socialists and Democrats relieved of their control over the EU. EU Parliament officials boasted of the highest turnout in 20 years, with 50.5 percent of eligible voters taking part – 8 percent higher than the last ballot in 2014.
 

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The EPP and S&D are set to lose their overall majority in the European Parliament, the first time in the institution’s history.
 

According to early projections, the pair will command a combined 325 seats in the Parliament – The EPP as the largest party with 178 MEPs and the S&D with 147.

At least 169 eurosceptics will lay siege to Brussels as the Brexit Party’s Nigel Farage and Matteo Salvini’s League set for national victories in Britain and Italy.
 

Guy Verhofstadt’s ALDE bloc saw there numbers nearly double, benefiting from the anti-Brexit Liberal Democrat’s success in Britain and the introduction of Emmanuel Macron’s En Marche in France, with 108 MEPs.
 

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This is a good article on who might be the next head of the EU. There are 28 people picking the 5 slots, and no one majority party. "Concessions must be made" as they say. (This would be so much easier to follow if there were not 7,612 parties in Europe and if any of the names of the parties actually matched their political platform.) Reading to the end, it lays out some scenarios where things do not go swimmingly for the pro-EU peeps. 

European elections hint at what's next for the EU and who will lead it
 

The task of picking the five people who will hold the European Union's top jobs and help shape its future just got a lot more difficult, with EU elections highlighting the deepening political fragmentation of the 28-country bloc.
 

The two biggest centrist groups in the current European Parliament — the European Peoples' Party (EPP) to the right and the Socialists & Democrats (S&D) on the left — will no longer hold a majority in the new 751-seat chamber, according to estimates.
 

Together, the two are expected to be down from 401 politicians in the outgoing chamber to 324 seats in the next five-year European Parliament, short of the 376-vote majority needed to approve a new head of the bloc's executive European Commission.
 

Who are the candidates?
 

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[row_33]

The EU thing is sort of a joke, the hi-lights of history were Northern Ireland sending members who stated out loud that the Pope is the antichrist every session.

 

still it gives encouragement to not letting elites think they can continue running roughshod over decent citizens

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[row_33]

it's good the US doesn't engage in this nonsense, it has too much to take care of in the world

 

 

[Nanker]

Hard exit. It's the only way. 

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, Nanker said:

Hard exit. It's the only way. 

 

historically levels of revolt at this level led to some palace stormings and ad hoc executions over there...

 

 

[B-Man]

THE REVOLUTION DEVOURS ITS OWN: John Cleese faces online backlash after claiming London isn’t ‘an English city any more.’ Cleese tweeted:

 

 

 

In 2017, Cleese admitted to being pro-Brexit: “I don’t want to be run by a bunch of European bureaucrats.”

 

 

[row_33]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

THE REVOLUTION DEVOURS ITS OWN: John Cleese faces online backlash after claiming London isn’t ‘an English city any more.’ Cleese tweeted:

 

 

 

In 2017, Cleese admitted to being pro-Brexit: “I don’t want to be run by a bunch of European bureaucrats.”

 

 

 

saw a good documentary of John's "no it's not a tax" exile on some beach for the last few years

 

 

all fans should watch it

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Wonder why Theresa May never negotiated like this? 
 

UK’s Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment
 

Boris Johnson, the leading candidate to succeed Theresa May as Britain’s next prime minister, said he would withhold a previously agreed 39 billion pound ($50 billion) Brexit payment until the European Union gives Britain better exit terms.
 

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“I always thought it was extraordinary that we should agree to write that entire cheque before having a final deal. In getting a good deal, money is a great solvent and a great lubricant,” Johnson told the Sunday Times.
 

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[KRC]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Wonder why Theresa May never negotiated like this? 
 

UK’s Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment
 

Boris Johnson, the leading candidate to succeed Theresa May as Britain’s next prime minister, said he would withhold a previously agreed 39 billion pound ($50 billion) Brexit payment until the European Union gives Britain better exit terms.
 

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“I always thought it was extraordinary that we should agree to write that entire cheque before having a final deal. In getting a good deal, money is a great solvent and a great lubricant,” Johnson told the Sunday Times.
 

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Sounds like something Trump would do.

[row_33]

23 minutes ago, KRC said:

 

Sounds like something Trump would do.

 

and it would work brilliantly

 

 

[GG]

It's Boris's race to lose at this point.

 

Have a strong suspicion EU will be much more amenable to agree to better terms leading up to October 31.

[/dev/null]

1 hour ago, GG said:

It's Boris's race to lose at this point.

 

Have a strong suspicion EU will be much more amenable to agree to better terms leading up to October 31.

 

If Boris Johnson does prevail it will be interesting to see his first visit with Trump.  Regardless of what you may think of either's politics, you gotta admit they do kinda look alike

 

 

[Foxx]

13 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

If Boris Johnson does prevail it will be interesting to see his first visit with Trump.  Regardless of what you may think of either's politics, you gotta admit they do kinda look alike

 

 

i dunno... he's not the right shade of orange, is he?

[Hedge]

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Voting starts Saturday.  I am slapping this here because if it is Boris Johnson,  the EU will probably get a whole lot more reasonable about Brexit terms. It sounds like he will lead a hard-Brexit if they are not willing to negotiate quickly, and in good faith. 

But, people say all sorts of things to get elected and never follow through, so who knows. ?‍♀️

[row_33]

36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Voting starts Saturday.  I am slapping this here because if it is Boris Johnson,  the EU will probably get a whole lot more reasonable about Brexit terms. It sounds like he will lead a hard-Brexit if they are not willing to negotiate quickly, and in good faith. 

But, people say all sorts of things to get elected and never follow through, so who knows. ?‍♀️

 

Labour can promise everything and do nothing, in fact make it 10 times worse, and the media and Enlightened Society will laugh and never say anything bad about Labour

 

works the same way over here with Dems