BarleyNY Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 There will come a time when the Pegulas part ways with GMs, coaches, etc. But in the meantime, what do you think informs them more about Whaley, the brief soundbytes or the day in, day out interactions they've had since becoming his employer? GO BILLS!!! Obviously they have a lot of interaction with the man and I'm not hanging him here - plus there seems to be a lot more responsible parties than just him. I guess I didn't finish my thought on the Pegulas. They have to be concerned about recent events and I would naturally expect that to lead to them tightening the ship. That's what I'd hope would happen at least.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Each individual issue we've seen the last few weeks isn't a huge deal in a vacuum, but collectively they're starting to paint an ugly picture. How much stuff has Whaley, Rex and the team had to walk back lately? Just off the top of my head there's: - Whaley's comment regarding people not being built to play football. Walked back with a very league-approved "clarification". - Whaley's comment about getting 3 immediate starters from the draft (an odd thing for a GM to say since the coaching staff selects starters). D'oh! - Whaley's response that there was no concern regarding Lawson's shoulder when questioned about it immediately following his selection. Whoops! - The Bills immediately revising their new media rules when some of the dumber rules were questioned. - Rex's decision to introduce Trump at his WNY rally, which led the team to release a statement distancing themselves from his appearance at the event. The Bills have looked very incompetent recently. It's like no one is stopping to think before doing anything. I'd love to know how the Pegulas are reacting to all of this. It can't be good. I wouldn't assume the Pegula's are overblowing this to the magnitude you are. 9 or 10 wins and playoffs and you think any of this matters. I don't think so.
Agent 91 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I can't figure out why people are freaking out about this. He wasn't saying the NFL shouldn't exist. He was saying that the human body was not created to play football. The human body did not evolve for the purpose of playing football. That is all. Stop with the insults. Whaley isn't an idiot biting the hand that feeds him. Consider the context of the conversation and the rest of what he said. Jesus, some people are just sitting around waiting for people to screw up so they can pounce. Let it go. You sir should be banned for making sense
Bill from NYC Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 :doh: Resources like what? EA Madden player scores?? Seriously, You honestly believe being an evaluator of talent is something anyone can do?? I mean if everyone here does it so it, any moron can, right? How did I know that you would come in and insult the fans? You shouldn't be a Bills Fan. You ruin almost every thread on this board by coming in and insulting other fans. You should root for the patsies. Maybe their fans would be able to reach your lofty expectations.
K-9 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Obviously they have a lot of interaction with the man and I'm not hanging him here - plus there seems to be a lot more responsible parties than just him. I guess I didn't finish my thought on the Pegulas. They have to be concerned about recent events and I would naturally expect that to lead to them tightening the ship. That's what I'd hope would happen at least. I doubt they are concerned by recent events as depicted by an over-zealous, over-reaching media; especially the local media the Pegulas have effectively frozen out since buying the Sabres. I think they can look at the Lawson surgery, Sammy's broken foot, and overreaction to the media policy in a completely rational manner. GO BILLS!!!
Coach Tuesday Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 If you really want to nit pick, Bills win pct since he's been GM: .479 vs. the rest of the playoff drought: .394 I'm still waiting for somebody to explain how this will be used in court. Please be the first. I've explained it. If you want a lengthier explanation, feel free to PM me. I try cases for a living. You sir should be banned for making sense He's already admitted, himself, that he was an idiot for saying it the way he did...
vincec Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Whaley's right and everyone knows it too. Human beings weren't built to crash into each other they way NFL players do. Injuries are inevitable. That doesn't mean that the NFL or football shouldn't exist. There are sports like boxing and MMA where the GOAL of the sport is to injury other participants. As long as the risks are transparent, what's the big deal? Cut him some slack.
Saint Doug Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Given the context in which Whaley was speaking, what he said wasn't entirely accurate. It's true that the human body endures weekly trauma in the NFL that most of us don't experience. However, the vast majority of players exit games injury-free. What Whaley should've said was that Sammy Watkins's body wasn't meant to play football. Putting the legalities of his statement aside, because they are unclear, Whaley statement is undoubtedly injurious (no pun intended) to the NFL's reputation and future. Imagine if you're a kid and an NFL GM comes out and says the human body shouldn't be playing football? Couple that with the number of high profile players walking away prematurely, Goodell had to have Whaley on the phone after that statement. Edited May 25, 2016 by Saint Doug
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 You sir should be banned for making sense i second the burning banning.
LabattBlue Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 While I won't defend Whaley's inability to know what to say and what not to say when he has a microphone in front of him, when you come right down to it, the reaction to his statement is more ridiculous than the statement itself.
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Whaley's right and everyone knows it too. Human beings weren't built to crash into each other they way NFL players do. Injuries are inevitable. That doesn't mean that the NFL or football shouldn't exist. There are sports like boxing and MMA where the GOAL of the sport is to injury other participants. As long as the risks are transparent, what's the big deal? Cut him some slack. blood sport its all about the wager and the fight till the death. goes back to the Romans and before. what idiot fights a lion ? one who values money. There is a reason NFL pays players so much. this is so basic
Saint Doug Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 While I won't defend Whaley's inability to know what to say and what not to say when he has a microphone in front of him, when you come right down to it, the reaction to his statement is more ridiculous than the statement itself. It's really not. Especially given that there's truth to his words. You think kids aren't now going to think twice whether they want to suit up or not? Whaley's right. And he happens to be pointing out the obvious. But sometimes people need the obvious pointed out before making rational decisions.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Humans are not built to be recorded, scrutinized out of context and get grilled on the minutia of every sentence uttered. Edited May 25, 2016 by over 20 years of fanhood
Augie Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 what idiot fights a lion ? I wish we could fight the Lions every other week. But then, they might make the playoffs......
Saint Doug Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 There is a reason NFL pays players so much. this is so basic Are you suggesting they are paid millions in exchange for their future mental and physical well being? Let's be frank. I don't know if you are a father or not, but would you want your son to play in the NFL, making millions, only to be a cripple when he's 50?
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I wish we could fight the Lions every other week. But then, they might make the playoffs...... Humans are not built to be recorded, scrutinized out of context and get grilled on the minutia of every sentence uttered. well i must inquire by now. what are humans built for ?
BUFFALOKIE Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I think it's not that at all. Naturally all of the ex-players who are now commentators and journalists are going to flame him and defend the game. I'm sure your well versed on the CTE dilemma the league is facing and many believe that puts the future of the game in doubt. So having a high profile NFL employee, 1/32, a general manager whom is in charge of employing Humans to play the game...a misstep like that is not only sloppy I'm sure some in the legal office would say it hurts their cause going forward. I'm sure we all agree he mix matched words and didn't get his point across the way he intended, but word for word he put something out there that shouldn't be. "Commonsense" LOL.
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Are you suggesting they are paid millions in exchange for their future mental and physical well being? Let's be frank. I don't know if you are a father or not, but would you want your son to play in the NFL, making millions, only to be a cripple when he's 50? yes i am saying exactly that !! My Son played Pop Warner for 3 years and was some of our best memories together. He decided to no longer play once in high school. I have 3 adult daughters and grandson. We teach to live healthy and happy. To all my children we have taught that neither money nor glory is the end game. but they are free to choose. And they will have our full support. is that what you are asking me?
FireChan Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 Are you suggesting they are paid millions in exchange for their future mental and physical well being? Let's be frank. I don't know if you are a father or not, but would you want your son to play in the NFL, making millions, only to be a cripple when he's 50? They aren't your children.
Chilly Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 blood sport its all about the wager and the fight till the death. goes back to the Romans and before. what idiot fights a lion ? one who values money. There is a reason NFL pays players so much. this is so basic Pretty sure the people who fought the Lions in Roman times didn't do it for the money and were killed.
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