The Big Cat Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Like I said, talk to Darryl Talley, Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Joe Dellamaure, Fred Smerlas, Shane Nelson, Keith Everett. Look at Kent Hull's untimely death, Jr Seau's. The NFL is being sued! What do you not get about how dangerous this sport is and how little the NFL has done to fix this until recently. I love the game but that doesn't mean that maybe it should do more to stop life altering changes to human beings. I guarantee you it was Roger Goodell who made Whaley back track his statement today. He broke the NFL Integrity Rule by implicating the NFL to his own moral feelings about humans playing the sport of football. I am willing to bet the NFL will take action! The NFL WAS sued. It's a done deal. It's over, settlements are being paid. Where you're categorically wrong is over WHAT. Not because the NFL hid the fact that it's a dangerous sport (what Whaley) said. It was specifically over their treatment (or lack-thereof) of concussions and their impact on players and relevance to the game. You have repeatedly conflated this with what Whaley said and you are entirely wrong to draw a correlation. Period. EDIT: But let's back up. You're willing to bet? What are you willing to bet? That the NFL will sue Doug Whaley and the Bills over this? Please state your wager. Human beings weren't built to play football? What, all the pads and helmets weren't clue enough? GO BILLS!!! Ding ding. Edited May 25, 2016 by The Big Cat
Santana Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Exactly. The fact that the "legal" side of this has been hammered to mush by fans clawing for a reason why this would be significant does not suddenly make it so. Right?! Like the legal part has been beaten to death. It has nothing to do with anything. People have to realize what Doug Whaley said would be like LeBron James saying that Nike hires people to make sneakers in South East Asia in unbearable conditions.
USABuffaloFan Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 The NFL WAS sued. It's a done deal. It's over, settlements are being paid. Where you're categorically wrong is over WHAT. Not because the NFL hid the fact that it's a dangerous sport (what Whaley) said. It was specifically over their treatment (or lack-thereof) of concussions and their impact on players and relevance to the game. You have repeatedly conflated this with what Whaley said and you are entirely wrong to draw a correlation. Period. EDIT: But let's back up. You're willing to bet? What are you willing to bet? That the NFL will sue Doug Whaley and the Bills over this? Please state your wager. Ding ding. https://www.nflconcussionsettlement.com/ On April 18, 2016, the Third Circuit affirmed the District Court’s order in full. On April 28, 2016, certain objecting Settlement Class Members filed a Petition for Rehearing En Banc asking the Third Circuit to reconsider the appeal. If that petition is denied, the objecting Settlement Class Members still may seek review by the United States Supreme Court. The Settlement will not become effective until after all possible appeals are resolved in favor of the Settlement or the time to appeal has run out.
Maury Ballstein Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Wayne wins the internet today. Who needs a GM LET THE TWEETY BIRDS DRAFT FOR US !!
GG Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 This is like a hospital CEO coming out and saying hospital's kill people. Stupid is as stupid does. Whaley should be fired! He can then do the talk circuit and explain what he means. He should have added in his 2016 Media rules that all dumb statements from GM be censored quickly! No it would be him saying that people die in hospitals. Totally true, but maybe not a good choice of words.
PastaJoe Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 This is all a smoke screen to get people to stop talking about his misleading statements about Shaq's health and ability to play.
What a Tuel Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 No it would be him saying that people die in hospitals. Totally true, but maybe not a good choice of words. No it would be like him being asked why johnny broke his arm, and Whaley saying "well climbing fences and jumping out of trees are a part of life, and it is a dangerous game, personally I don't think humans are supposed to jump out of trees, And these things are going to come up. But we trust in our medical care and trust that Johnny will do what he has to do to get back outside climbing trees and jumping out of them" Whaley doesn't think kids should play outside!
ddaryl Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 This is all a smoke screen to get people to stop talking about his misleading statements about Shaq's health and ability to play. I have to laugh at Bills fans who are constantly looking for an ax to grind, and go to great lengths to find that ax
Heitz Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 No it would be like him being asked why johnny broke his arm, and Whaley saying "well climbing fences and jumping out of trees are a part of life, and it is a dangerous game, personally I don't think humans are supposed to jump out of trees, And these things are going to come up. But we trust in our medical care and trust that Johnny will do what he has to do to get back outside climbing trees and jumping out of them" Whaley doesn't think kids should play outside! What I read from that is that Whaley hates trees! Or maybe even nature!? Or, HOLY CRAPPER, DOUG WHALEY HATES THE EARTH!!! O_O
PastaJoe Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I have to laugh at Bills fans who are constantly looking for an ax to grind, and go to great lengths to find that ax Actually the Bills are quite good at leaving plenty of axes right within reach.
Mr. WEO Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Actually the Bills are quite good at leaving plenty of axes right within reach. No kidding. "Great lengths"?? The FO is juggling with axes this week...
GG Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 What I read from that is that Whaley hates trees! Good thing he doesn't hate cans. We'd have a really serious issue on our hands then.
Nervous Guy Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I have to laugh at Bills fans who are constantly looking for an ax to grind, and go to great lengths to find that ax no ****...I've heard that phrase uttered dozens of times by commentators and broadcasters over the years...jeez it's like he uttered the unspeakable. BFD.
bobblehead Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Its a problem with people who want it to be a problem.
The Big Cat Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Its a problem with people who want it to be a problem. /thread
folz Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 As much as I love having the internet, TBD, and getting as much info about my favorite team as possible, part of me longs for the old days where very little of what went on within the building at One Bills Drive was ever made public. Back then, we never would have heard about the team's media policy, we wouldn't be worried about or maybe even know about injuries and surgeries until at least August, and something (stupid or not) being said by the GM of a football team in May wouldn't cause a stir at all. No wonder the team is restricting the media more, look at how they've handled these last few stories. It is always in an accusing, over-reacting, and exploitative manner. And we, as the public, are no better when we react to it (and we have all been guilty of this at times, be it with the Biils, politics, religion, race, etc.). This is all Much Ado About Nothing.
VABills Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 If you really want to nit pick, Bills win pct since he's been GM: .479 vs. the rest of the playoff drought: .394 Since he's been Asst GM/GM they are .406. If you think that's actually good, then I am not sure what to say. But that is not the sign of a good GM. Even since he's been GM alone sub .500 isn't good. We continue to spin in the septic tank and now we have a GM opening his flap about why the players should even play. The legal crap has all been covered. But if he spent less time demoralizing the team, pissing off multiple coaches and trying to undermine them we might have been successful already. Instead, you seem to be happy with no playoffs, no light in sight and an idiot as a talking head of this team.
eball Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Since he's been Asst GM/GM they are .406. If you think that's actually good, then I am not sure what to say. But that is not the sign of a good GM. Even since he's been GM alone sub .500 isn't good. We continue to spin in the septic tank and now we have a GM opening his flap about why the players should even play. The legal crap has all been covered. But if he spent less time demoralizing the team, pissing off multiple coaches and trying to undermine them we might have been successful already. Instead, you seem to be happy with no playoffs, no light in sight and an idiot as a talking head of this team. Are we really assigning W-L records to assistants now? Good lord.
BarleyNY Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 As much as I love having the internet, TBD, and getting as much info about my favorite team as possible, part of me longs for the old days where very little of what went on within the building at One Bills Drive was ever made public. Back then, we never would have heard about the team's media policy, we wouldn't be worried about or maybe even know about injuries and surgeries until at least August, and something (stupid or not) being said by the GM of a football team in May wouldn't cause a stir at all. No wonder the team is restricting the media more, look at how they've handled these last few stories. It is always in an accusing, over-reacting, and exploitative manner. And we, as the public, are no better when we react to it (and we have all been guilty of this at times, be it with the Biils, politics, religion, race, etc.). This is all Much Ado About Nothing. Each individual issue we've seen the last few weeks isn't a huge deal in a vacuum, but collectively they're starting to paint an ugly picture. How much stuff has Whaley, Rex and the team had to walk back lately? Just off the top of my head there's: - Whaley's comment regarding people not being built to play football. Walked back with a very league-approved "clarification". - Whaley's comment about getting 3 immediate starters from the draft (an odd thing for a GM to say since the coaching staff selects starters). D'oh! - Whaley's response that there was no concern regarding Lawson's shoulder when questioned about it immediately following his selection. Whoops! - The Bills immediately revising their new media rules when some of the dumber rules were questioned. - Rex's decision to introduce Trump at his WNY rally, which led the team to release a statement distancing themselves from his appearance at the event. The Bills have looked very incompetent recently. It's like no one is stopping to think before doing anything. I'd love to know how the Pegulas are reacting to all of this. It can't be good.
K-9 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 ...The Bills have looked very incompetent recently. It's like no one is stopping to think before doing anything. I'd love to know how the Pegulas are reacting to all of this. It can't be good. There will come a time when the Pegulas part ways with GMs, coaches, etc. But in the meantime, what do you think informs them more about Whaley, the brief soundbytes or the day in, day out interactions they've had since becoming his employer? GO BILLS!!!
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