reddogblitz Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 He will get my vote. He needs to find a way to get the traditional voting bloc to support him, since we're picking between a far left nut job, and Hilary Clinton, he has a shot to do it. If Bernie ran as a 3rd party he would have a good chance of winning IMHO. Not sure about this Johnson dude, but I very well might vote for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 If Bernie ran as a 3rd party he would have a good chance of winning IMHO No, he wouldn't. Neither would Johnson, whom I will likely vote for. But okay, let's war game a Bernie Sanders 3rd party run. What is Sanders' path to 270? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) No, he wouldn't.I don't know if he would or wouldn't and neither do you unless you're God or something But okay, let's war game a Bernie Sanders 3rd party run. What is Sanders' path to 270?He wins enough states to add up to 270. Duh Edited May 22, 2016 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 I don't know if he would or wouldn't and neither do you unless you're God or something He wins enough states to add up to 270. Duh Whether he could win or not is irrelevant, because he could never get ballot access in enough states to collect 270. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I don't know if he would or wouldn't and neither do you unless you're God or something He wins enough states to add up to 270. Duh But how does he get to 270 Whether he could win or not is irrelevant, because he could never get ballot access in enough states to collect 270. It's like high school Physics class where we are told to ignore friction Assume Sanders finds his way onto all state ballots. What is his path to 270 Electoral Votes? Let's start with Vermont. 3 down, 267 to go Next, let's cross off the reliable Red states. Alabama (9), Alaska (3), Arkansas (6), Idaho (4), Indiana (11), Kansas (6), Kentucky (8), Louisiana (8), Mississippi (6), Montana (3), Nebraska, North Dakota (3), Oklahoma (7), South Carolina (9), South Dakota (3), Tennessee (11), Texas (38), Utah (6), West Virginia (5), Wyoming (3). That's 154 Electoral Votes for Trump, 3 for Sanders, and 0 for Hiliary Arizona (11), Missouri (10), and Georgia (16) also lean Republican but not to the extent the states above. Missouri is a toss up state. In Georgia and Arizona's case they have large Hispanic populations that in a head to head match up may put them into play. But a Sanders 3rd party run splits the Democrat vote. 37 more votes for Trump. 191 for Trump and 3 for Sanders Romney barely flipped North Carolina back to red with a 50-48% win in 2012. How many of that 50% will vote for Sanders, Clinton, or Trump? How many of that 48% will split between Clinton and Sanders. That's 15 more for Trump 206-3-0 Thus far I've looked at states Romney won. How about states Obama won in 2012. How about Florida. Yes Florida, where Obama picked up a 50-49 win over Romney. Just like North Carolina, how much of that Romney vote will go to Sanders or Clinton? True Flordia has a large Hispanic population, but the Democrats are splitting their vote. Congratulations Bernie, you just flipped Florida from Blue to Red. Trump is now up 235-3-0 What about the Rust Belt? Ohio, 50-48. Pennsylvania 52-47. How much of that Romney vote goes to Sanders? How much sticks with Trump? How much of that Obama vote is split between Sanders and Hiliary? The last time a Republican won Pennsylvania, Bernie's beloved Soviet Union was still around. Ohio is 18 Electoral votes bumping Trump up to 253 and Pennsylvania's 20 makes it 273 votes and a trip to Pennsylvania Avenue for the Donald Feel the Bern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hover wasn't a libertarian. Sheesh. You mean a Libertarian would have even have done less with the Depression?? Libertarianism is nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 No, he wouldn't. Neither would Johnson, whom I will likely vote for. But okay, let's war game a Bernie Sanders 3rd party run. What is Sanders' path to 270? Ask any retard on a college campus or hippie about Sander's path to 270, and they'll surely give you a solid, reasoned answer like: "270 what?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Ask any retard on a college campus or hippie about Sander's path to 270, and they'll surely give you a solid, reasoned answer like: "270 what? You mean 420 right?" Corrected for accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 You mean a Libertarian would have even have done less with the Depression?? Libertarianism is nonsense A Libertarian certainly wouldn't have instituted a stiff tariff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 A Libertarian certainly wouldn't have instituted a stiff tariff. Lol, ok, that's true, but not helping the unemployed that were starving was absolutely 100% Libertarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Lol, ok, that's true, but not helping the unemployed that were starving was absolutely 100% Libertarian So you're saying that Libertarians are against helping the poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 So you're saying that Libertarians are against helping the poor? I believe I said that what Hoover did was what a Libertarian would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I believe I said that what Hoover did was what a Libertarian would do Well you actually said Hover but that's besides the point. I was referring you this comment you made: but not helping the unemployed that were starving was absolutely 100% Libertarian So I'll ask you again. Are you saying Libertarians are against helping the poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Well you actually said Hover but that's besides the point. I was referring you this comment you made: So I'll ask you again. Are you saying Libertarians are against helping the poor? Sure, Hoover was carrying out a Libertarian policy there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Sure, Hoover was carrying out a Libertarian policy there Can you give a summary of what you believe the libertarian platform to be? Just bullet point it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Sure, Hoover was carrying out a Libertarian policy there No let's try this again. I don't give a flip about what Hoover was doing. I want your answer to this question. It is a yes or no question so it shouldn't take too much effort on your part. Ready? Do you think that Libertarians are against helping the poor? Aaaaaand go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg F Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 You mean a Libertarian would have even have done less with the Depression?? Libertarianism is nonsense Please explain to us what Hoover did that makes him a libertarian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Can you give a summary of what you believe the libertarian platform to be? Just bullet point it. No let's try this again. I don't give a flip about what Hoover was doing. I want your answer to this question. It is a yes or no question so it shouldn't take too much effort on your part. Ready? Do you think that Libertarians are against helping the poor? Aaaaaand go! Please explain to us what Hoover did that makes him a libertarian? No, no, no! Don't challenge him, for God's sake. What are you trying to do, kill the poor little butter-headed toeball? Ask him something more at his level. Gatorman...how do you spell "Hoover?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 No let's try this again. I don't give a flip about what Hoover was doing. I want your answer to this question. It is a yes or no question so it shouldn't take too much effort on your part. Ready? Do you think that Libertarians are against helping the poor? Aaaaaand go! Libertarians are against the government helping with poverty and inequality, government sponsored health care--something that really helps the poor, and doing much of anything to make equality of opportunity. Happy? Please explain to us what Hoover did that makes him a libertarian? Nothing. That's the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Libertarians are against the government helping with poverty and inequality, government sponsored health care--something that really helps the poor, and doing much of anything to make equality of opportunity. Happy? So are Libertarians against helping then poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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