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This just reeks of some sort of rookie hazing ritual where former 1st round picks entering their third year jump kick the current 1st rounder in the shoulder.

 

Thanks to Whaley's foresight this won't be an issue next season.

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This entire team is glass.

 

Gilmore goes out for the season on a simple shoulder tackle. Taylor, Watkins, McCoy, pretty much questionable every single game. Kyle Williams every year. Now Swaq Lawson.

 

There's a quote about guys who get hurt a lot... something to the effect that if you're always getting hurt, you're not good enough to be playing in the NFL. It's not bad luck, it's that you're not a good enough athlete to avoid getting injured.

The last bit is interesting. I remember when the bills under Jauron fielded an untalented bend but don't break defense that was frequently bulldozed and also annihilated by injuries.

 

I started to think it was symptomatic at the team level of guys being lower on the talent scale and thus having to really push hard to compete at the NFL level, causing more propensity to get hurt.

 

Could be something to that... Sammy though has nothing close to a talent deficit, so it's certainly not a universal law even if it's somewhat true en mass.

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There's a quote about guys who get hurt a lot... something to the effect that if you're always getting hurt, you're not good enough to be playing in the NFL. It's not bad luck, it's that you're not a good enough athlete to avoid getting injured.

 

"The most important ability is availability."

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6 week injury, back in time for camp.

 

Wonder how he broke it.

My sources tell me kicking Shaq in the shoulder.

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This entire team is glass.

 

Gilmore goes out for the season on a simple shoulder tackle. Taylor, Watkins, McCoy, pretty much questionable every single game. Kyle Williams every year. Now Swaq Lawson.

 

There's a quote about guys who get hurt a lot... something to the effect that if you're always getting hurt, you're not good enough to be playing in the NFL. It's not bad luck, it's that you're not a good enough athlete to avoid getting injured.

Exaggerate much or not actually watch Buffalo Bills football?

                                Game Game Def  Def  Def  Def  Def  Fumb Fumb Fumb Fumb Fumb Sack Sack Sack        
Year     Age  Tm        Pos No.    G   GS  Int  Yds   TD  Lng   PD   FF  Fmb   FR  Yds   TD   Sk  Tkl  Ast Sfty AV
2006      23 BUF        RDT  95   16   11    0    0    0    0    1                                 33   20       6
2007      24 BUF        RDT  95   16   16                             0    0    1    0    0  2.0   28   13       7
2008      25 BUF        RDT  95   16   16                             1    0    0    0    0  2.0   37   18       8
2009      26 BUF        RDT  95   14   14                             1    0    0    0    0  4.0   41   25       7
2010*     27 BUF ldt/NT/rdt  95   16   16    0    0    0    0    1    0    0    2   11    0  5.5   54   23      12
2011      28 BUF      de/nt  95    5    5    0    0    0    0    1                                  4    5       2
2012*     29 BUF  dt/NT/rdt  95   16   16    0    0    0    0    2                           5.0   27   19       8
2013*     30 BUF         DT  95   16   16    0    0    0    0    1    1    0    1    0    0 10.5   42   26      11
2014*     31 BUF         DT  95   15   15    1    2    0    2    3                           5.5   31   11      11
2015      32 BUF         dt  95    6    6                                                    1.0    6    8       3
Career                           136  131    1    2    0    2    9    3    0    4   11    0 35.5  303  168      75

6 of the seasons Kyle Williams never missed a game

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The last bit is interesting. I remember when the bills under Jauron fielded an untalented bend but don't break defense that was frequently bulldozed and also annihilated by injuries.

 

I started to think it was symptomatic at the team level of guys being lower on the talent scale and thus having to really push hard to compete at the NFL level, causing more propensity to get hurt.

 

Could be something to that... Sammy though has nothing close to a talent deficit, so it's certainly not a universal law even if it's somewhat true en mass.

 

Goodwin is an olympic level athlete, just doesn't have the musculoskeletal talent to withstand NFL punishment. I'm afraid Watkins' issues are following a similar trend.

Exaggerate much or not actually watch Buffalo Bills football?

                                Game Game Def  Def  Def  Def  Def  Fumb Fumb Fumb Fumb Fumb Sack Sack Sack        
Year     Age  Tm        Pos No.    G   GS  Int  Yds   TD  Lng   PD   FF  Fmb   FR  Yds   TD   Sk  Tkl  Ast Sfty AV
2006      23 BUF        RDT  95   16   11    0    0    0    0    1                                 33   20       6
2007      24 BUF        RDT  95   16   16                             0    0    1    0    0  2.0   28   13       7
2008      25 BUF        RDT  95   16   16                             1    0    0    0    0  2.0   37   18       8
2009      26 BUF        RDT  95   14   14                             1    0    0    0    0  4.0   41   25       7
2010*     27 BUF ldt/NT/rdt  95   16   16    0    0    0    0    1    0    0    2   11    0  5.5   54   23      12
2011      28 BUF      de/nt  95    5    5    0    0    0    0    1                                  4    5       2
2012*     29 BUF  dt/NT/rdt  95   16   16    0    0    0    0    2                           5.0   27   19       8
2013*     30 BUF         DT  95   16   16    0    0    0    0    1    1    0    1    0    0 10.5   42   26      11
2014*     31 BUF         DT  95   15   15    1    2    0    2    3                           5.5   31   11      11
2015      32 BUF         dt  95    6    6                                                    1.0    6    8       3
Career                           136  131    1    2    0    2    9    3    0    4   11    0 35.5  303  168      75

6 of the seasons Kyle Williams never missed a game

 

He's only started every game in 50% of the seasons he's played. It's literally a coin flip if he'll play every game this year.

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Goodwin is an olympic level athlete, just doesn't have the musculoskeletal talent to withstand NFL punishment. I'm afraid Watkins' issues are following a similar trend.

 

He's only started every game in 50% of the seasons he's played. It's literally a coin flip if he'll play every game this year.

marquise-goodwin-111814-ftr-instagramjpg

 

Thanks Doc! :rolleyes:

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He'll be able to play, but don't be surprised if it affects him in some way (explosiveness, etc.).

A foot for a WR is always a concern. Dez came back, wasn't the same and had another procedure. Edelman came back and just went for his second procedure and is now in a walking boot. Julio Jones had a bunch of complications before he came back. Durant had 3 surgeries on his broken foot. One good thing here is the same surgeon that worked with Julio is now working with Sammy, hopefully that helps. Biggest thing is he needs to rest and let it heal fully, heck stay out until Sept. don't rush back.

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I'm disappointed this in thread. When I saw the story on pft I thought the board would explode, only 4 pages?! Come on guys, we are way more reactionary than that!

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Timetable is ready for training camp, and I'd be a fan of them holding him out of harms way a little longer than that. Sucks, but I'm not going to freak out.

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I would like to think that there are not people out there not all giddy about today's bad news....

 

but

 

We all know that is not the case....there are some that would rather be right on a message board then the team actually doing well

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My gut says this is bad.

 

Sammy is precious porcelain.. They're underplaying it, foot injuries are notoriously finicky... and metal screws get cold in the winter.

 

I expect McCoy and Sammy to limit themselves all preseason, claiming tightness, injuries, etc... but this isn't that.

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