prissythecat Posted May 17, 2016 Posted May 17, 2016 I here about how bad EJ is. He only has 16 starts and I looked up other QB in there first 16 starts and Alex Smith first 23 starts 17 tds , 27 int. and 21 fumbles. Joe Flacco in his first 16 starts 14 tds ,12 int. and 11 fumbles. Blake Bortles first 16 starts 16 tds and 20 int. 21 fumbles in 29 starts. Andrew Luck first 16 games 54.1 com. pct , 10 fumbles 23 tds and 18 int. EJ Manuel first 16 starts 19 tds,15 int and 9 fumbles. 59.1 com pct. Manuel only has 16 starts as a pro. Yes there is guys like Cam Newton that start out the gate and we say wow. And there are others. Payton Manning only had like one win in his first year and threw a ton of int. So EJ an be as good as Flacco, Smith , or Luck? I'd extend him this instant.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 17, 2016 Posted May 17, 2016 I hope he can beat out Kellen Clemmons! would you be surprised if he did not?
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 17, 2016 Posted May 17, 2016 On its face, the above would seem to support EJ's chances of turning things around. In context, however, we see a guy that played decent football as a rookie, and severely regressed in year 2. He followed that up with a horrid training camp in year 3 that saw him land at No. 3 on the depth chart (despite playing well in 2/3 of his preseason time), and when he had the chance to come in and show progress in place of an injured Taylor, he pretty much screwed the pooch. I really like EJ. He was the only QB I had any interest in from the 2013 draft, he's a very good kid, and he works as diligently as you could ask of him. He just isn't showing any progress, and seems to be regressing. Flip side, is he was given up for dead going into last preseason and made throws I haven't seen him make the previous 2 seasons. He played fine against Cincy, who were arguably playing the best in the NFL at that time. He had one of the worst 5 minute stretches in NFL history that would have buried most other Qbs and he was making playing with Marcus Easley and Chris Higan helped us take the lead. He certainly has his flaws but his development was disgustingly bad. The only reason Taylor has a chance to be a franchise qb is because he got drafted by one of the best franchises in the NFL instead of one of the worst.
Hanoverbills Posted May 17, 2016 Posted May 17, 2016 So EJ an be as good as Flacco, Smith , or Luck? I'd extend him this instant. Nobody knows what EJ could look like down the road. Smith really looked bad his first couple years and then he played better. 49ers couldn't wait to get rid of him for Colin Kaepernick to be a starter and Colin was benched last year for Blaine Gabbert. You guys don't even like EJ as a backup. Some of you would rather have Mettenberger. Which I think is funny.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 17, 2016 Posted May 17, 2016 Nobody knows what EJ could look like down the road. Smith really looked bad his first couple years and then he played better. 49ers couldn't wait to get rid of him for Colin Kaepernick to be a starter and Colin was benched last year for Blaine Gabbert. You guys don't even like EJ as a backup. Some of you would rather have Mettenberger. Which I think is funny. The grass is always greener.
thebandit27 Posted May 18, 2016 Posted May 18, 2016 Flip side, is he was given up for dead going into last preseason and made throws I haven't seen him make the previous 2 seasons. He played fine against Cincy, who were arguably playing the best in the NFL at that time. He had one of the worst 5 minute stretches in NFL history that would have buried most other Qbs and he was making playing with Marcus Easley and Chris Higan helped us take the lead. He certainly has his flaws but his development was disgustingly bad. The only reason Taylor has a chance to be a franchise qb is because he got drafted by one of the best franchises in the NFL instead of one of the worst. Again, on its face, I'd agree with this post. However, when I'm looking at EJ's performance last preseason, I'm seeing a guy that really only did well hitting deep passes against 2nd and 3rd stringers. I'm not trying to marginalize what he did, but let's face it, that extra second-and-a-half he gets to hold the ball while a guy like Deonte Thompson and his 4.3-flat speed get open downfield makes an enormous difference--one that he won't (and didn't) get during the regular season. I also wouldn't call his performance against Cinci "fine". He ran the scripted plays nicely on the first drive, but followed that up with 4 consecutive possessions of 3 plays or less, with 3 punts and an INT (on which he underthrew Hogan on a wheel route that could've been a huge play). The inability to move the ball in the 3rd quarter squashed any chances the team had of keeping up with Cincinnati. Again, I'm not blaming him solely for that loss; I'm only saying that he didn't play well. I'll always commend the kid's resiliency, as he bounces back from his poor stretches with decent play. The problem is that he could ill afford to put the team in a hole against Jacksonville, considering that he was largely playing with backups on offense. His 2nd quarter killed them.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 18, 2016 Author Posted May 18, 2016 @FieldYates Source: two teams other than the Chargers attempted to claim QB Zach Mettenberger, the Giants and Bengals.
Recommended Posts