GG Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Maybe because it was news in January It was? "What wasn’t disclosed at the time was that the first payment would be $400 million in cash, flown in as the prisoners were released, as The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 It was? "What wasn’t disclosed at the time was that the first payment would be $400 million in cash, flown in as the prisoners were released, as The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday." Be gentle It's tough actually reading an article posted, when you assume you already know what everyone else thinks................... More of the same....................... Currently on CNN's front page: 8 stories on Trump, but zip on Obama secretly sending Iran $400 million for hostages. Click on to enlarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Be gentle It's tough actually reading an article posted, when you assume you already know what everyone else thinks................... More of the same....................... Currently on CNN's front page: 8 stories on Trump, but zip on Obama secretly sending Iran $400 million for hostages. Click on to enlarge Of course, if you actually go to cnn.com, it's the fifth story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Justice Department raised objections over Obama ransom to #Iran http://on.wsj.com/2aUP9Dy "...but their objections were overruled by the State Department" Naturally. So in President Obama's world, Trump's 'rhetoric' inspires Islamic radicals but giving them $400 million doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Maybe because it was news in JanuaryWell, the beautiful thing about the digital age is those news stories about the US paying a $400M ransom to a terrorist state to free the hostages should be easy for you to find. We'll wait here for all the links you'll provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 At least $400,000,000 is better than handing over 5 terrorist leaders for 1 "hostage". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I wonder if the State Department violated the nation's Money Laundering Statute. Title 31 USC Section 5332 –Also as a result of the USA Patriot Act was the passage of Title 31 USC 5332, Bulk Cash Statute. Criminal Investigation has jurisdiction to investigate violations of this statute. This affects anyone who transports or attempts to transport currency or other monetary instruments of more than $10,000, from a place within the United States to a place outside of the United States, or from a place outside the United States to a place within the United States, and knowingly conceals it with the intent to evade the reporting requirements of 31 USC 5316. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The $400 million was paid in foreign currency because any transaction with Iran in U.S. dollars is illegal under U.S. law. Sanctions also complicate Tehran’s access to global banks. The Iranians were demanding the return of $400 million the Shah’s regime deposited into a Pentagon trust fund in 1979 to purchase U.S. fighter jets, U.S. officials said. They also wanted billions of dollars as interest accrued since then. [The Wall Street Journal, 8/3/16] https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/08/03/right-wing-media-distort-wsj-article-claim-obama-administration-made-secret-payment-iran/212156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The $400 million was paid in foreign currency because any transaction with Iran in U.S. dollars is illegal under U.S. law. Sanctions also complicate Tehran’s access to global banks. The Iranians were demanding the return of $400 million the Shah’s regime deposited into a Pentagon trust fund in 1979 to purchase U.S. fighter jets, U.S. officials said. They also wanted billions of dollars as interest accrued since then. [The Wall Street Journal, 8/3/16] https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/08/03/right-wing-media-distort-wsj-article-claim-obama-administration-made-secret-payment-iran/212156 Who gives a ****? I mean really, why should we care what Iran wants? They get nothing and like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The $400 million was paid in foreign currency because any transaction with Iran in U.S. dollars is illegal under U.S. law. Sanctions also complicate Tehran’s access to global banks. The Iranians were demanding the return of $400 million the Shah’s regime deposited into a Pentagon trust fund in 1979 to purchase U.S. fighter jets, U.S. officials said. They also wanted billions of dollars as interest accrued since then. [The Wall Street Journal, 8/3/16] https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/08/03/right-wing-media-distort-wsj-article-claim-obama-administration-made-secret-payment-iran/212156 As long as we're quoting Revolutionary Guard commanders boasted at the time that the Americans had succumbed to Iranian pressure. “Taking this much money back was in return for the release of the American spies,” said Gen. Mohammad Reza Naghdi, commander of the Guard’s Basij militia, on state media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) It was? "What wasn’t disclosed at the time was that the first payment would be $400 million in cash, flown in as the prisoners were released, as The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday." http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/that-400-million-secret-payment-to-iran-isnt-quite-wha-1784775010 You need to leaven your reading list http://articles.latimes.com/1986-12-20/news/mn-4453_1_iranian-official Edited August 4, 2016 by baskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/that-400-million-secret-payment-to-iran-isnt-quite-wha-1784775010 You need to leaven your reading list http://articles.latimes.com/1986-12-20/news/mn-4453_1_iranian-official Yes. We've officially sunk to a craven place under B. Hussein Obama. We cower before tinhorn third rate third world shitholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/that-400-million-secret-payment-to-iran-isnt-quite-wha-1784775010 You need to leaven your reading list http://articles.latimes.com/1986-12-20/news/mn-4453_1_iranian-official So in effect, you're saying this is the same as the 1986 ransom payment? And in what kind of world is an illegal US$400 million payment suddenly becomes legal when that exact US$400 million is magically converted into Euros & SFr? Or is this another case where bribes and money laundering do not apply to people who make up the laws that the little people need to live by? I wonder if you would have the same sanguine response if a US company shifted some foreign cash around to grease the skids to land a contract in a country run by sleazy depots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/that-400-million-secret-payment-to-iran-isnt-quite-wha-1784775010 You need to leaven your reading list http://articles.latimes.com/1986-12-20/news/mn-4453_1_iranian-official Hey, where are those articles from January you said reported Obama paid a $400M ransom to Iran in exchange for the hostages. You said it was news back then, but you haven't posted those articles. We'll wait here. Thanks in advance. Edited August 4, 2016 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/that-400-million-secret-payment-to-iran-isnt-quite-wha-1784775010 You need to leaven your reading list http://articles.latimes.com/1986-12-20/news/mn-4453_1_iranian-official You're quoting Foxtrot Alpha? You're going to blindly accept the mindless musings of a blogger dumber than you? You need to leaven your reading list. Start with some reading about the Eurodif dispute between France and Iran...which was a nearly identical situation (France freezing Iranian assets, Iran kidnapping Frenchmen, France "paying back" the Iranian assets by installment to get the hostages back.) And was considered ransom, then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 So when are we paying Iran the $1.3b in interest we owe them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 So when are we paying Iran the $1.3b in interest we owe them? I'd assume when they return hostages they take in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) "Of course the Justice Department objected — it was illegal. It isn’t only the optics; it isn’t only that they are just looking ridiculous in denying that it was quid pro quo. Obviously it wasn’t a coincidence; the reason it was objected to by Justice — there is a statute that prohibits us from engaging in Iran dealing with dollars, so they had to print the money here, ship it over to Switzerland, turn it into Swiss francs and euros, and ship it over to Iran. If a private company had done this, it is called money laundering. The CEO would be in jail right now." - Charles KrauthammerRead more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/ Edited August 4, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Iran knows how to play the U.S. for there propagaga advantage, I give them credit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Iran knows how to play the U.S. for there propagaga advantage, I give them credit for that. It appears that most countries have recently. We're the world's stooge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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