BarleyNY Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Where's your list ? I have Tyrod around 18-21 Yeah, I have him at 17, right in the middle of the "good with additional potential" group. That's the group that inspires hope and breath holding, but still has to grow.
Rico Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Flacco is 6'6'' 232 lbs and won some SB's. Brock is listed at 6'7'' 245 lbs. Cam Newton is 6'6'' 260 lbs, Big Ben is 6'5'' 240lbs, Phillip Rivers is 6'5'', Glennon is also 6'7''. EJ is 6'5''. Russell Wilson is 5'11'' and Taylor is 6'0'' I might be the only guy here who likes Osweiler and the guy did go 5-2 running that Broncos team the last seven games of the season to get them in the playoffs. He won games against two playoff teams in both the Patriots and Bengals in overtime. Thus showing he can perform well in big games. Then for the draft, the Texans went out and got two WR's an OG and a RB. In free agency, they got the Brock, OG Jeff Allen from KC and RB Lamar Miller from Miami. I like the Texans chances to make the playoffs again this year. I like Tyrod Taylor too. The thing is, I'm a bit skeptical that the Bills can be the number one team in big plays again now that opposing teams have the film on Greg Roman's offense. The Bills were 31st in 3 downs and out percentage on offense last year and those big plays are what made that offense so good. Ahhh, September can't get here fast enough. I thought I've seen Osweiler listed at 6'8" before, but a quick search shows 6'7", so OK. The 6'7"-and-up QB club includes Osweiler, Glennon, and now Paxton Lurch. Former members include Dan McGwire (1st round bust for the Seahawks) and a few other scrubs. IMO these dorks are a very easy target for opposing defenses to find and terrorize. If one of them does make it in the NFL, I will offer congrats to him and the team for taking a chance, just too risky for me though.
metzelaars_lives Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Where's your list ? I have Tyrod around 18-21 So we have Taylor right about exactly the same but all we do is argue about the guy? Still waiting for Gugny's list, which he claims will have Taylor at #32.
metzelaars_lives Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) 1 Rodgers 2 Brady 3 Big Ben 4 Brees 5 Newton 6 Luck 7 Wilson 8 Rivers 9 Palmer 10 Ryan 11 E. Manning 12 Dalton 13 Flacco 14 Romo 15 Cutty 16 Smith 17 Stafford 18 Cousins 19 Carr 20 Winston 21 Mariota 22 Taylor 23 Bridgewater 24 Tanny 25 Fitz 26 Bortles 27 Osweiler 28 Bradford 29 Griffin 30 Sanchez 31 Kaepernick 32 Goff Can't put Taylor over Winston, Mariota or Carr IMO. This is closer to what I would have than just about any other list I've seen. You have Dalton and Cutler a little high and I'd definitely place Carr ahead of Cousins. A healthy Romo is still the 8th or 9th best QB in the NFL. Certainly better than Matt Ryan, who may have hit his proverbial ceiling and even started to regress a little. I don't get the Bortles love from some people. He was a great fantasy QB last year because they were down by 21 points by the second quarter pretty much every game. Well, with the exception of- never mind. Let's see if he can turn into more of a complete player this year. Edited May 13, 2016 by metzelaars_lives
Gugny Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 1.Brady 2 Rodgers 3 Luck 4 Newton 5 Brees 6 Roesthlisberger 7 Wilson 8 Palmer 9 Rivers 10 Ryan 11 E. Manning 12 Romo 13 Flacco 14 Dalton 15 Smith 16 Stafford 17 Cutler 18 Cousins 19 Fitzpatrick 20 Tannehill 21 Mariota 22 Bridgewater 23 Bortles 24 Osweiler 25 Carr 26 Winston 27 Bradford 28 Kaepernick 29 Sanchez 30 Taylor 31 Griffin 32 Goff (only because he's a rookie)
John from Riverside Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 1.Brady 2 Rodgers 3 Luck 4 Newton 5 Brees 6 Roesthlisberger 7 Wilson 8 Palmer 9 Rivers 10 Ryan 11 E. Manning 12 Romo 13 Flacco 14 Dalton 15 Smith 16 Stafford 17 Cutler 18 Cousins 19 Fitzpatrick 20 Tannehill 21 Mariota 22 Bridgewater 23 Bortles 24 Osweiler 25 Carr 26 Winston 27 Bradford 28 Kaepernick 29 Sanchez 30 Taylor 31 Griffin 32 Goff (only because he's a rookie) Who made THESE rankings.....Tyrod's ex girlfriend?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 13, 2016 Author Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) Guys who the consensus has to low for me going forward: R.Wilson-seems to be out of the top 5 by most, I think he is top 5 for sure Romo- I get the injury thing, but wouldn't it just be like him to have an MVP season with that offense Bortles- he should be in a group with Taylor, Mariota, Winston, Carr and perhaps Bilgewater Guys too high for me: Palmer-He's put up great numbers as Ariens guy in a very friendly system, not so long ago he couldn't play Cutler- the guy is the epitome of a guy who will always disappoint in spite of talent Cousins- I'm not getting all the love for him, why is he ranked above the young guys group? really you'd rather have him this year? Edited May 13, 2016 by The Thurmanator
Gugny Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Who made THESE rankings.....Tyrod's ex girlfriend? Where's your list Tow Job? Or are you playing Republican and waiting to see what everyone else is gonna do?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 13, 2016 Author Posted May 13, 2016 Who made THESE rankings.....Tyrod's ex girlfriend? A scorned woman indeed!!
metzelaars_lives Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Who made THESE rankings.....Tyrod's ex girlfriend? There's your winner.
Gugny Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 There's your winner. Another critic who hasn't revealed his list. Shocked.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Bortles is on the verge of taking a major step in my opinion. I know the Jags are a bit of a trendy pick this year but I think Bortles could be on the verge of becoming a top 10 QB. He might be a guy that puts up numbers for a bad team. I would love to see a break down of his numbers when his team is out of the game. He still turns the ball over too much for my liking. That said, I give props to the Jags for sticking with him early in his career. He was pretty bad his rookie year and a lot of folks would have been screaming for him to get benched.
John from Riverside Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Another critic who hasn't revealed his list. Shocked. LOL
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Bandit's top 4 is the top 4. Play with the order if you like but the best 4 QBs in the league remain Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben and Brees in some order. After that you can make arguments for a few but the new breed of Wilson, Newton and Luck deserve to be in the consideration for top 6 or 7. My list is currently probably something like: ----- Elite ----- 1. Brady 2. Rodgers 3. Big Ben 4. Brees ----- Championship Level ----- 5. Newton 6. Luck 7. Romo 8. Wilson 9. Manning 10. Flacco 11. Rivers ------- Can win with ------ 12. Ryan 13. Palmer 14. Stafford 15. Dalton 16. A. Smith ------- Serviceable (lot of these are young and on the rise but yet to prove you can win with them) ------- 17. Bortles 18. Taylor 19. Carr 20. Cousins 21. Tannehill 22. Cutler 23. Winston 24. Mariota 25. Bridgewater ------ Not good enough -------- 26. Bradford 27. Osweiler 28. RG III 29. Gabbert 30. G. Smith 31. Sanchez ------ Rookie -------- 32. Goff (not played a snap) I think this is a pretty good list. I think RG3 might have a chance to be productive this year with Jackson. I also think Osweiler has a chance as well. I probably would have Taylor at like 23. I don't love some of some of those guys but I still prefer Qbs who can win with their arm. But I do agree on the tier and TT can easily move up and down. But we would struggle to pass for 150 yards in far too many games in a pass first league.
John from Riverside Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 I have him at 21. How do our lists compare? My unposted list compares with yours....as of this moment. If he takes the next step this upcoming year....he goes up the chart
Gugny Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 My unposted list compares with yours....as of this moment. If he takes the next step this upcoming year....he goes up the chart So you're waiting to reveal your tax returns. Just as I thought.
John from Riverside Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 So you're waiting to reveal your tax returns. Just as I thought. How did you know!
metzelaars_lives Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Another critic who hasn't revealed his list. Shocked. I'm working on it...
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