Luxy312 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 I think they cheered because jags moved up and they were happy they didn't pick Reggie. I don't necessarily think that they had Jack rated lower than Reggie but could have been due to the injury. I'm going to call BS on this comment for one reason. Did you not watch the video of the Bills war room during the draft? When Jack was picked ahead of where the Bills were in the 2nd round, everyone was cheering and they immediately went to the phones to move up. They almost certainly had Jack lower than Ragland. Heck, Whaley said later that if the right guys would have gone in the first, that they would have picked him there, as he was first round value. At the end of the day also, almost all of the big boards out there had Ragland as a 1st round pick and a 2nd round or later on Jack and Smith because of their injuries.
3rdand12 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 I'm going to call BS on this comment for one reason. Did you not watch the video of the Bills war room during the draft? When Jack was picked ahead of where the Bills were in the 2nd round, everyone was cheering and they immediately went to the phones to move up. They almost certainly had Jack lower than Ragland. Heck, Whaley said later that if the right guys would have gone in the first, that they would have picked him there, as he was first round value. At the end of the day also, almost all of the big boards out there had Ragland as a 1st round pick and a 2nd round or later on Jack and Smith because of their injuries. They cheered because they had made a plan. and it was falling as they truly hoped. Bills could not afford risk this draft early. Lawson Ragland and even Washington are impact players. Great video, and phenomenal draft first 3 rounds. A rare occasion for sure ! We should find solace in what luck ( and skill) the FO had that weekend
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Perfect! Just the right amount of indignation & condescension to point out his condescension.Exactly. Some people on here are bullies. Just because they have a high post count they feel they can say whatever they want and it is truth. It just isn't.
eball Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Exactly. Some people on here are bullies. Just because they have a high post count they feel they can say whatever they want and it is truth. It just isn't. Umm, I think you missed the point. But anyway, seriously, go look up even the best teams' draft histories. What you're claiming should be "expected" is fantasy.
Marty McFly Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) ON THE CLOCK - INSIDE THE DRAFT ROOM - HOW VALUE AND NEED ALIGNED FOR THE BILLS Bills Focus: Inside Buffalo's Draft Room (7:53) Bills tried to get a 3rd player with a 1st round grade thanks for the post six. I think the implication is they were interested in Myles Jack - Whaley said he was on their draft board - but they did not have a 1st round grade on him. yep and well.... The implication is that they had moved him down because of the medical and they still thought the 2nd was too big of a risk. There was clearly some consensus that his knee was a serious problem or else a top 5 player does not fall to the 2nd round. This and.... no I didn't mean to imply I thought he was lying or anything. I actually forgot he said that. So they had Ragland higher than Jack? Strictly medical or no? Because Jags say he is good to go right now. Just wondering. I think they didnt want to take a medical chance and knew they needed a day 1 starting/contributing LB that fit Rex's scheme and was experienced calling the defensive plays. Ragland is known as a "tone setter" and Rex trying to build a "bully" wanted that type of player over jacks style of play, having already signed Z Brown to be the main coverage backer. judging by the celebrations when jack was picked, they most def had Ragland ahead of jack on the board, based on health, the intangible skills they were looking for (leadership/tone setting/instinct), and scheme fit. Edited May 8, 2016 by Marty McFly
SoulMan Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 Quite fine work CB26. Great insight into the 2017 AFC champs. Go Bills !
Coach Tuesday Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 Some thoughts I'll add now that I've seen the video: 1) It's clear that this is Doug Whaley's Show. I like seeing him run the draft room - he's the man in charge and they all seem to defer to him. I love watching a young Executive do his or her thing with confidence. Whaley shows confidence and decisiveness. I'm impressed. 2) Whaley and Rex seem to genuinely like and work well with each other. This is critical. 3) Nice to see Terry being involved but not dominating the room (a la Jerry Jones). He's the right amount of invested - he clearly participates but doesn't dominate the discussion. 4) I thought it was awesome seeing Kim in the draft room. IMO there are not enough women involved in the management of NFL teams. If you've been in a board room or a C-suite you know that women have just as much to offer as men do, and it bothers me that they're so underrepresented in the NFL.
BuffaninATL Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 My pleasure good sir. really good stuff 26.....FWIW my sister takes her dog to day care at the same place as Whaley (and he has the same breed of dog as I), and she says he is a real nice, cool dude. Glad to read this insider stuff, helps me feel connected as an out-of-towner....
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 Pretty sure it was Jarran Reed. I think you're right
3rdand12 Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 Exactly. Some people on here are bullies. Just because they have a high post count they feel they can say whatever they want and it is truth. It just isn't. it is all about the post count. thanks for the post six. yep and well.... This and.... I think they didnt want to take a medical chance and knew they needed a day 1 starting/contributing LB that fit Rex's scheme and was experienced calling the defensive plays. Ragland is known as a "tone setter" and Rex trying to build a "bully" wanted that type of player over jacks style of play, having already signed Z Brown to be the main coverage backer. judging by the celebrations when jack was picked, they most def had Ragland ahead of jack on the board, based on health, the intangible skills they were looking for (leadership/tone setting/instinct), and scheme fit. good post again Marty
DrDawkinstein Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 I am saying things have changed from now since 1985. Information that is available now vs then has drastically been improved. Expecting 4-5 eventual starters from a draft is not unreasonable, I think it will begin to be the norm in the next 5 years. 4-5 eventual starters from every draft is unreasonable. There I said it. If this is really the argument that you want to make, please present a list of the drafts (for any team) that yielded 5 starters.
Beef Jerky Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 Good to see Rex and Whaley on same page. I can say the Jets draft room probably didn't look as friendly when Idzik was Rex's GM.
Marty McFly Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 it is all about the post count. good post again Marty thank you good sir. (tips super sombrero mexican hat)
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