jr1 Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 that's the land for the data center for Doug's new porn site
Mr. WEO Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Until the AP tells us the new stadium is NOT, in fact, being built in NF...I refuse to believe otherwise.
transient Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Maybe Orchard Park just happens to sit above a large shale deposit. Can't wait for the "Noco Express Mart Stadium Football & Fracking Center@ Ralph Wilson Place". Glenn's extension must have broke the bank.
May Day 10 Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 IMO, building, or renovating long-term in-place in OP makes the most sense on nearly every front.
DrDawkinstein Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Something like that. From what I hear, what will happen on this land will be pretty cool and you don't get cool unless you spend mucho dinero. Care to share?
NoSaint Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Something like that. From what I hear, what will happen on this land will be pretty cool and you don't get cool unless you spend mucho dinero. was the initial vague post not getting enough attention?
DrDawkinstein Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 IMO, building, or renovating long-term in-place in OP makes the most sense on nearly every front. It's a major step backwards, and a huge blow to the revitalization movement occurring in Buffalo. Terry and Kim would be idiots to not connect a new stadium to the FNC and rapid transit system.
dwight in philly Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) IMO, building, or renovating long-term in-place in OP makes the most sense on nearly every front. i totally agree.. all the talk of a downtown stadium is "pie in the sky" Bass Pro thinking.. look what happened when the powers that be woke up .. and realized Bass Pro was not the panecea. now, you have canalside. a stadium IMHO would just jumble the whole area up traffic.. keep the Bills in OP. Edited May 4, 2016 by dwight in philly
May Day 10 Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) It's a major step backwards, and a huge blow to the revitalization movement occurring in Buffalo. Terry and Kim would be idiots to not connect a new stadium to the FNC and rapid transit system. I disagree. An NFL stadium, lots, and 'campus' is a waste of space in the downtown area in a market such as Buffalo. 10 home games a season, maybe a couple other events. If we can be the 'magnet' for consistent/huge events like Jerry World or Lucas Oil are, then I would. The problem is, the stadium here wont be able to attract and sell out that many events. You also would have to pour a ton of money into demo and infrastructure. Displacing businesses and people. Awful traffic issues, etc. Save money and the premium downtown space. Build a really nice convention center down there as well as a brick-and-mortar amphitheater. Edited May 4, 2016 by May Day 10
TaskerTough Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 I hope you shut-ins see whats happening here!! Terry is building Packers 2. Keeping/growing talent, building upon our elderly, well loved stadium... As Godgula ages, he will begin to unveil his plan to sell the team to the fans. His rich man status will have endeared him to the league so much, they'll lapse their ban on the fan-owned model. We'll spend every penny we have to 'buy' the team, knowing full well we don't get any money back... but we wont care, we'll have the Bills forever. The Bills will literally be ours. Praise him my friends.
Maddog69 Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Interesting, for sure. But still not guaranteeing that the stadium remains there. Could be speculative land acquisition for future development once new stadium is build downtown and the Ralph is demolished. Who knows. But certainly interesting to think about.
machine gun kelly Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Tasked - a little early to be hittin the Kettle 1 straight.
DrDawkinstein Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) I disagree. An NFL stadium, lots, and 'campus' is a waste of space in the downtown area in a market such as Buffalo. 10 home games a season, maybe a couple other events. If we can be the 'magnet' for consistent/huge events like Jerry World or Lucas Oil are, then I would. The problem is, the stadium here wont be able to attract and sell out that many events. You also would have to pour a ton of money into demo and infrastructure. Displacing businesses and people. Awful traffic issues, etc. Save money and the premium downtown space. Build a really nice convention center down there as well as a brick-and-mortar amphitheater. There's always a million reasons to not do something (classic Buffalo thinking), but you havent mentioned anything that can't be addressed and improved. Pegula built 2 new ice rinks right next to the one that already exists and he owns, and he has Harborcenter booked with events. For just ice skating! Buffalo/Erie Country/NYS would need to swing a deal where Pegula funds a portion (if not majority, if not all of it) himself. Traffic couldnt be any worse than at RWS where you basically only have 2 ways of getting there. This would also cover the convention center and amphitheater as well. It needs to be an entire complex. FNC, HarborCenter, CanalSide, New Stadium, waterfront, and public transit. Along with stores and restaurants in the adjacent buildings. Edited May 4, 2016 by DrDareustein
sodbuster Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Something like that. From what I hear, what will happen on this land will be pretty cool and you don't get cool unless you spend mucho dinero.I hope it's a Buffalo Bills themed indoor water park!
TaskerTough Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Tasked - a little early to be hittin the Kettle 1 straight. lol - caught me. but it don't make this fever dream any less beautiful. Green Bay Bills aside: Downtown = probably, worse tailgating. So.. it's a non-starter until I'm assured otherwise. Edited May 4, 2016 by TaskerTough
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 And Amusement Park... They are bringing back The Comet!!!
nick in* england Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 To be clear - as long as Hammers Lot is still Hammers Lot - then all is good with the world. Is it August yet?
dwight in philly Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) There's always a million reasons to not do something (classic Buffalo thinking), but you havent mentioned anything that can't be addressed and improved. Pegula built 2 new ice rinks right next to the one that already exists and he owns, and he has Harborcenter booked with events. For just ice skating! Buffalo/Erie Country/NYS would need to swing a deal where Pegula funds a portion (if not majority, if not all of it) himself. Traffic couldnt be any worse than at RWS where you basically only have 2 ways of getting there. This would also cover the convention center and amphitheater as well. It needs to be an entire complex. FNC, HarborCenter, CanalSide, New Stadium, waterfront, and public transit. Along with stores and restaurants in the adjacent buildings. simple question.. what do you do with a huge stadium downtown for 42 weeks a year? after the season. Edited May 4, 2016 by dwight in philly
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Story from Scout.com http://www.scout.com/nfl/bills/story/1667592-report-bills-buying-land-around-ralph @jeremywgr LRT - Source tells me the Bills are planning to build a new/additional grass practice field space. (Nothing about a stadium, etc) Edited May 4, 2016 by YoloinOhio
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