YoloinOhio Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 To me, this is the same old draft cb, replace cb cycle. Depresses me. Yes, I accepted what everyone was saying. I was explaining to the fella who was laughing at my post. i don't ever have an issue with using up a CB's rookie deal and letting him leave if he wants huge money, and drafting his replacement. Especially with a new scheme coming in. Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 This is a nine minute link with Mike Mayock talking about the qb class and draft in general. It is taken from NFL. com. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000799336/article/mike-mayocks-2017-nfl-draft-position-rankings-30 Apparently we are going to follow our proven track record with regards to the qb position. Quote
Big C Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 I'll be with them if it's Ross Same. Only one on that list I would not want at 10. Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) i don't ever have an issue with using up a CB's rookie deal and letting him leave if he wants huge money, and drafting his replacement. Especially with a new scheme coming in. The new scheme, as I understood it, does not need shut down cornerbacks. It seems to me we are investing in a player whose skill set exceeds his value to our particular system. This is also a deep draft for cb by all accounts. If Leroi's board holds true, the pick will be wr Davis, I think, which is a reasonable choice, I suppose. Edited April 18, 2017 by Dr. Who Quote
Blokestradamus Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Same. Only one on that list I would not want at 10. Adore the talent but the injury history is extensive and worrisome. Healthy, he's probably close to Davis as WR1. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 The new scheme, as I understood it, does not need shut down cornerbacks. It seems to me we are investing in a player whose skill set exceeds his value to our particular system. This is also a deep draft for cb by all accounts. If Leroi's board holds true, the pick will be wr Davis, I think, which is a reasonable choice, I suppose.his skill set is needed imo. At a rookie deal though, not what Gilmore is making. They should use the big contracts elsewhere in this scheme - DL. Quote
Big C Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 i don't ever have an issue with using up a CB's rookie deal and letting him leave if he wants huge money, and drafting his replacement. Especially with a new scheme coming in. Agreed. It's the prudent thing to do as long as there is a viable replacement. 13m for Gilmore just wouldn't have been worth it for us with how deep this class is at CB. Adore the talent but the injury history is extensive and worrisome. Healthy, he's probably close to Davis as WR1. Indeed, but I think we need a bigger body like Davis anyhow. Quote
jeffismagic Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 ok, our Top 5 on our board: In order 1. Solomon Thomas- DE Stanford 2. Corey Davis- WR W. Mich 3. Marshon Lattimore- CB OS 4. OJ Howard - TE Bama 5. John Ross- WR Wash Imo Wow. That is frightening. John Ross at ten? Quote
section122 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 his skill set is needed imo. At a rookie deal though, not what Gilmore is making. They should use the big contracts elsewhere in this scheme - DL. The Hamstring issue scares me. Generally they are followed by Achilles or lower leg injuries in the following years. I hope he can be healthy but that is a huge red flag for me. Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 ok, our Top 5 on our board: In order 1. Solomon Thomas- DE Stanford 2. Corey Davis- WR W. Mich 3. Marshon Lattimore- CB OS 4. OJ Howard - TE Bama 5. John Ross- WR Wash Imo Thanks and great stuff! Quote
JohnC Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Apparently we are going to follow our proven track record with regards to the qb position. We do what we usually do. For this organization being bland is being comfortable. And the streak will continue. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Agreed. It's the prudent thing to do as long as there is a viable replacement. 13m for Gilmore just wouldn't have been worth it for us with how deep this class is at CB. Indeed, but I think we need a bigger body like Davis anyhow. we have Holmes. I don't care how big the WR is. If he can run routes, get open, and catch it doesn't matter. Ross was also really good in the red zone. He's a pick that reminds me of what many said about OBJ a few years ago (who was also injured at start of camp btw) Quote
mannc Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 ok, our Top 5 on our board: In order 1. Solomon Thomas- DE Stanford 2. Corey Davis- WR W. Mich 3. Marshon Lattimore- CB OS 4. OJ Howard - TE Bama 5. John Ross- WR Wash Imo Interesting...no Hooker, Adams or Peppers Quote
YoloinOhio Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Interesting...no Hooker, Adams or Peppersdeep safety draft and they signed Micah Hyde for the Adams/Peppers role Quote
Blokestradamus Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 we have Holmes. I don't care how big the WR is. If he can run routes, get open, and catch it doesn't matter. Ross was also really good in the red zone. He's a pick that reminds me of what many said about OBJ a few years ago (who was also injured at start of camp btw) Weird thing is, Ross fits the slot type way more than the boundary type. Using #10 on a primary slot WR would seem incredibly steep. Ross can play outside but he would be a departure from the scheme preferences. Quote
Big C Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 we have Holmes. I don't care how big the WR is. If he can run routes, get open, and catch it doesn't matter. Ross was also really good in the red zone. He's a pick that reminds me of what many said about OBJ a few years ago (who was also injured at start of camp btw) You're not wrong. I definitely was not down with OBJ as the pick and in hindsight I would have loved to sit at pick 9 and take him (although I don't know if Rexy would have been able to handle his personality very well - assuming the rest of our team's history remains unchanged). I watched Ross quite a few times being up here in Seattle and I do really love the talent. It is the injury history more than the height that scares me off a little at 10. Trade down a few spots and take him, a-ok with me. Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 I think Davis will be there and if he's the pick that would be awesome! Can run routes, can run after catch, Big and will bring them down in the EZ. Quote
jeffismagic Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Two top ten WRs on the team that the Bills won't utilize. Or maybe Sammy is gone. Quote
NewEra Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Wow. That is frightening. John Ross at ten? Yeah it would feel like we got Lee Evans imo. Meh. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 I couldn't give a rats arse about basketball but I follow Woj for that reason alone. He has me blocked but he is so ridiculously good at his job. Quote
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