jeffismagic Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Somehow I doubt any WR would prefer tight coverage to being wide open... It's not really tight coverage. The guy is near him but not in position to catch the ball. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 @chasegoodbread WR Corey Davis measured 6-2 7/8 at WMU pro day this morning. Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 It's not really tight coverage. The guy is near him but not in position to catch the ball. Okay, but to me that's like the flip side of McKelvin in his early years. Always in the WR's pocket, but never able to make a play on the ball. My point was that ability to create separation is maybe #2 in importance to a WR after availability. Quote
Blokestradamus Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Okay, but to me that's like the flip side of McKelvin in his early years. Always in the WR's pocket, but never able to make a play on the ball. My point was that ability to create separation is maybe #2 in importance to a WR after availability. Getting open in the primary skill for an NFL WR. I can only put a 1st round value on guys who get open with advanced route running skills (like Davis) or guys with extreme speed (Ross). It's why I went nuts over guys like Amari Cooper, that will always translate from the WR perspective. Then you have to consider the strengths of the quarterback you have and the scheme you run to add context. Players like Mike Williams have a place in the NFL but the lack of sharp breaks and long speed means more targets will be contested, gives you a lower margin for error and a higher potential failure rate. Edited March 15, 2017 by Blokestradamus Quote
jeffismagic Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Getting open in the primary skill for an NFL WR. I can only put a 1st round value on guys who get open with advanced route running skills (like Davis) or guys with extreme speed (Ross). It's why I went nuts over guys like Amari Cooper, that will always translate from the WR perspective. Then you have to consider the strengths of the quarterback you have and the scheme you run to add context. Players like Mike Williams have a place in the NFL but the lack of sharp breaks and long speed means more targets will be contested, gives you a lower margin for error and a higher potential failure rate. Mike Williams will have no problem gaining separation in the NFL. Quote
thunderingsquid Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Mock this mock and I'll clean your clock. JK Rd 1: Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio State Rd 2: JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USC Rd 3: Anonio Garcia OT Troy Rd 5: Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh Rd 6: Orion Stewart S Baylor Flame on. Edited March 15, 2017 by thunderingsquid Quote
Blokestradamus Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Mike Williams will have no problem gaining separation in the NFL. He can win with his body and his releases so he stands a chance to defy timed speed and be successful. Plus the physical battle is always in favour of the WR so he'll probably continue to get away with 50/50 push-offs. Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Mock this mock and I'll clean your clock. JK Rd 1: Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio State Rd 2: JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USC Rd 3: Anonio Garcia OT Troy Rd 5: Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh Rd 6: Orion Stewart S Baylor Flame on. What about our other 5th round pick? Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Mock this mock and I'll clean your clock. JK Rd 1: Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio State Rd 2: JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USC Rd 3: Anonio Garcia OT Troy Rd 5: Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh Rd 6: Orion Stewart S Baylor Flame on. You forgot a 5th round pick. Quote
Blokestradamus Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 What about our other 5th round pick? You forgot a 5th round pick. I assumed drafting Peterman temporarily sucked the universe into an abyss and we skipped the pick. Quote
thunderingsquid Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 LOL, you guys are correct. Rd 1: Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio StateRd 2: JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USCRd 3: Anonio Garcia OT TroyRd 5: Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh Rd 5: *Gotta Be* Chunky Clements DT IllinoisRd 6: Orion Stewart S Baylor Brain fart, I'm very prone to them after the surgery. I assumed drafting Peterman temporarily sucked the universe into an abyss and we skipped the pick. LOL Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 @chasegoodbread WR Corey Davis measured 6-2 7/8 at WMU pro day this morning. hate those 1/8th measurements that is 6'3" Mock this mock and I'll clean your clock. JK Rd 1: Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio State Rd 2: JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USC Rd 3: Anonio Garcia OT Troy Rd 5: Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh Rd 6: Orion Stewart S Baylor Flame on. we have two 5th round picks, solid draft though Quote
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 @sbnation 2017 NFL draft prospect Jourdan Lewis has been charged with assaulting his 20-year-old girlfriend http://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/15/14939394/jourdan-lewis-domestic-violence-nfl-draft-2017-michigan Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 @Dan_Hope 14 players from #Clemson's national championship team will participate in pro day today. Preview: https://t.co/krCdNZ0ox2 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) @MattatTheState Clemson's Pro Day is showing a highlight video of Tom Brady making throws followed by Deshaun Watson making the same type of throw. Edited March 16, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote
Chuck Wagon Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 @sbnation 2017 NFL draft prospect Jourdan Lewis has been charged with assaulting his 20-year-old girlfriend http://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/15/14939394/jourdan-lewis-domestic-violence-nfl-draft-2017-michigan Corners dropping like flies. Quote
thebandit27 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Corners dropping like flies. Reminds me of the Frank Clark situation from 2015--same school even. Of course, Clark ended up going at the end of R2, which is where I have Lewis going. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Corners dropping like flies. Whaley said its ok as long as he didn't steal from a teammate. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) @movethesticks According to a scout at Clemson today-- Mike Williams ran 4.58 & 4.56 @nfldraftscout Scout at the Clemson pro day just text me that Mike Williams is another Michael Thomas. (That's a compliment) Edited March 16, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote
thebandit27 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 @movethesticks According to a scout at Clemson today-- Mike Williams ran 4.58 & 4.56 @nfldraftscout Scout at the Clemson pro day just text me that Mike Williams is another Michael Thomas. (That's a compliment) I think Mike Williams is somewhere between a 15 and 20 pick Quote
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