Marty McFly Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 , ^^THIS Interesting quote from Rex (paraphrased): "We're gonna run a 5-2 like I did in Baltimore and when I was first with the Jets. Shaq is on the outside and Jerry will be opposite. But in the middle, you'll have Marcell, Kyle and Corbin/Adolphus. But where will they be? Who knows. And the offense won't know either. We won't be predictable like we were last year when you knew who the SAM was every down and other things." So, we didn't want a nose because we're not running a 3-4 base...which is news to many of us. Nice scoop I did not know that, makes sense as to why we didnt take Billings, Im gonna enjoy watching all the new players in august we had a hell of a draft.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Nice scoop I did not know that, makes sense as to why we didnt take Billings, Im gonna enjoy watching all the new players in august we had a hell of a draft. He said that in the post draft presser with Whaley: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/186286-whaley-and-rex-recap-the-2016-draft-class/
Steve Billieve Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 I try not to worry too much about the individual players. It's not like I actually know anything, so what's the point in having an opinion about stuff like bad shoulders, enlarged aortas, or the upside of various QB prospects. What I did notice is that we seemed to get really really lucky. We had "high value" prospects at need positions and made the necessary decisions to get them. I wasn't in love with most of the players we drafted when I was looking at the prospects pre-draft but what do I know? Everything seemed to click into place like I've never seen before.
papazoid Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Bills get an A- http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000657476/article/2016-nfl-draft-quicksnap-grades-for-afc-teams Edited May 2, 2016 by papazoid
TPS Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 Nice scoop I did not know that, makes sense as to why we didnt take Billings, Im gonna enjoy watching all the new players in august we had a hell of a draft.i'm pretty sure I heard Whaley say in one of the pressers that billings wasn't on their board--medical maybe?
Fadingpain Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 One thing we can all agree to: no matter how it plays out, this was a weird draft that saw a lot of talent slide down into our picking position, more than once. We definitely got players we shouldn't have based on draft day projections. In that regard, it was a great draft. We hopefully got 2 starting difference makers on D, that alone is great. And who knows...what if Cardale turns out to be something special!?
Marty McFly Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 One thing we can all agree to: no matter how it plays out, this was a weird draft that saw a lot of talent slide down into our picking position, more than once. We definitely got players we shouldn't have based on draft day projections. In that regard, it was a great draft. We hopefully got 2 starting difference makers on D, that alone is great. And who knows...what if Cardale turns out to be something special!? Agree dude. 3 Great to good defensive players and 1 developmental CB that has great attributes. On the other side of the ball we got a sleeper RB with awesome attributes and moves on tape, a hit or miss QB to develop, and a speed demon WR WHO FIGHTS FOR THE BALL, has the muscle mass to not be made out of glass, and doesnt do track hes all football. The draft was good to us this year
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 I think jones has better NFL skills than Pryor but Pryor was a more accomplished player than Jones in college. Pryor played a lot more than Jones in college, which certainly can help one become more accomplished. The drafts that led to the Super Bowl teams weren't too shabby.
DallasMac Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 ^^THIS Interesting quote from Rex (paraphrased): "We're gonna run a 5-2 like I did in Baltimore and when I was first with the Jets. Shaq is on the outside and Jerry will be opposite. But in the middle, you'll have Marcell, Kyle and Corbin/Adolphus. But where will they be? Who knows. And the offense won't know either. We won't be predictable like we were last year when you knew who the SAM was every down and other things." So, we didn't want a nose because we're not running a 3-4 base...which is news to many of us. Sounds good to me
The Frankish Reich Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I really like last year's draft, so I certainly don't count as a draft day naysayer. But ... I really, really don't like this year's draft. - guy with a shoulder injury who isn't considered an elite talent at 19th overall. Yes, it was 19th overall, not in the top 5, but if there's any injury risk at all (beyond the norm), I'd like to see elite talent. Think Myles Jack. Even though Myles Jack DEFINATELY has an injury that might now allow him to get to his next contract....meanwhile Shaq (who was supposed to go top 10) has a shoulder thing that has not hampered him in any way at all and has been checked out by doctors. Even if he needs the surgury its a shoulder....not a knee like Myles Jack. - guy thought to be a 2-down linebacker in Round 2. OK, but is there much upside there? In case your not watching the current NFL.....most LB's are becoming 2 down players because they put safeties on the field on 3rd down. Even so.....Reggie Ragland is no Brandon Spikes....he needs to keep his weight down and then he actually has some movement skills. Even so....another 1st round talent taken in the 2nd round. - passed on all QBs who have a realistic chance of being ready to start when Tyrod's contract is up after this season. NONE of these QBs are starting....even Wentz and Goff might have to sit the bench for a while.....so they took a high upside QB with all the tools with the intention of having him play the assback for a year. - a RB in the 4th round. Is he clearly better than a guy you could get as an UDFA? History would suggest no. When players started going down this last year.....we were playing guys like Boom Herron and UDFA running backs....injury after injury.......it was not until the 3/4 point of the year we got lucky with Gillaslee.....translation....WE ARE A RUNNING TEAM AND NEED A STABLE OF RBs that can actually play.....this Wiliams kid is a STUD - a speedburner receiver in the 5th. Yes, it's the 5th. But haven't Graham and Goodwin taught them anything? So we should stop trying to draft speed when our QB has a nice deep ball? Really. My issue is this was a draft a clear playoff team should have. A couple good roleplayers in the first 2 rounds, the kind that don't have star potential but can add depth and fill a need. An obsession with QB size/athleticism that served them so well the last time around with EJ? ... an obsession with speed at WR that has failed 3 times in a row if you count signing Harvin. If you look a little closer....You can see they stuck fairly close to their board while filling needs at nearly every postiion. I'd say it's the worst I've felt about a draft in recent memory ... I think we are gonna get to preseason and your gonna already be changing your tune. I just thought that just maybe it was just about time to just bump this one ...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 It was a very good draft. Cue the next 40 posts saying you can't measure a draft before 2 years have elapsed. 3 yrs, c'mon man!
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I just thought that just maybe it was just about time to just bump this one ... Lot of people real proud of themselves for simply wanting one injured player over another. Good job, I guess?
BarleyNY Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I just thought that just maybe it was just about time to just bump this one ... This should be a good time. The thing about good information that often gets overlooked is the importance of the timeliness of that information.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 If Lawson plays as expected no one will care he got surgery early.
4merper4mer Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 If Lawson plays as expected no one will care he got surgery early. It is already established that he won't be playing, correct? Why not post "If Rex coaches well, everyone will forget thinking he sucked."? Lawson won't be playing and unless he is hit by lightning, bitten by a spider, or exposed to secrets via time travel, Rex won't be coaching well either.
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 It is already established that he won't be playing, correct? Why not post "If Rex coaches well, everyone will forget thinking he sucked."? Lawson won't be playing and unless he is hit by lightning, bitten by a spider, or exposed to secrets via time travel, Rex won't be coaching well either. He will play this season, from all reports.
ChanOverChin Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I expect Sh. Lawson and R. Ragland to be very good players. Those were easy picks for the Bills. Heck, FireChan could have made those picks and came out looking like a genius. They were both top 15 rated players. What could make this an historic draft for the Bills and one of the best ever is if QB C. Jones eventually becomes a franchise QB. And it could happen.
xsoldier54 Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I'm fine with the first 3 picks actually. My issue is that they're all reasonably calculated to make the Bills as good as they were in 2014 and 2015. Goodbye Mario, hello Lawson (worse than Mario 2014, better than Mario 2015). Goodbye Brandon Spikes, hello Ragland. Goodbye Stefan Charles, hello Adolphus Washington. I'm just not seeing a plan to get beyond the "we project at 8-8, maybe if we get a few lucky bounces or some other teams tank we can squeak into the playoffs in 2016." It was a cautious draft; I think we needed a bold draft. So your answer would be to not draft guys to replace the ones we lost? I don't get it. You have 3 potential starters in the first three rounds, a developmental QB with huge upside, some depth at WR and RB and another potential starter in the 7th round. I don't see how we could have done much better than this and most people agree.
4merper4mer Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 3 yrs, c'mon man! Or in the case of Talleywhacker, 21 years.
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