#34fan Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 How are reaching the conclusion of a dodgy foot without the benefit of the medical report? The Bills didn't see it your way and the guy is a good prospect who's part of the team now. It's not a conclusion... Just probable cause not to take the kid if there's potential for a nagging injury... What good's a RB with a bad foot? Look, the Bills saw enough my way to leave me pleased with this Draft... We got better defensive talent than anyone else off the board.... I always ike my big WR's , but I can't seriously complain about a couple of picks I wasn't on board with.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 It's not a conclusion... Just probable cause not to take the kid if there's potential for a nagging injury... What good's a RB with a bad foot? Look, the Bills saw enough my way to leave me pleased with this Draft... We got better defensive talent than anyone else off the board.... I always ike my big WR's , but I can't seriously complain about a couple of picks I wasn't on board with. My point is that there was no probable cause to not take him because the Bills doctors cleared him with the full knowledge of the medical information. Any "bad foot" commentary on his injury absent of the relevant information doesn't matter. Same here on pick disagreement. I wanted Braxton Miller instead of Adolphus Washington.
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Every Draft is the Best Draft Ever... Let's give it 3 years before anointing Best Ever status.
Sandy McFiddish Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 I agree that this was a good draft but the 1985 draft I still feel was our best so far, but time will tell
#34fan Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Vince Wolfolk and Dennis Pitta would be nice grabs. Anybody else concerned about the 4th round RB who was out of football last year because he had his foot amputated? Well, not amputated actually, but it's like he's one short heart beat away from a bursted-aorta-like loss of his foot... from the knee down. This sounds like something we should obsess over for the next several weeks, now that The Draft is concluded. My bad... I thought we were talking about Jonagtren Willametg.... It's fixed now.. -How's Wolfolk doing? Edited May 1, 2016 by #34fan
#34fan Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 My point is that there was no probable cause to not take him because the Bills doctors cleared him with the full knowledge of the medical information. Any "bad foot" commentary on his injury absent of the relevant information doesn't matter. Same here on pick disagreement. I wanted Braxton Miller instead of Adolphus Washington. And my point is that you shouldn't take a guy with an injury cloud hanging over him, while healthier, more useful options are available... Being cleared by medical staff doesn't mean an injury won't re-occur or be exacerbated by the wear and tear of the game.. Often ACL tears result from "planting" (the foot) while simultaneously shifting directions laterally. If Williams can't plant that foot right, an ACL tear could very well be next on the menu.... Now we've wasted a pick on a guy who may never be ready to go... That outcome, while not written in stone, is still a risk I would have tried harder to avoid... Like you said, he's a Bill now, so I hope he does well... As for Miller, I wouldn't have minded him that much... He's got familiarity with Jones, and has improved by leaps and bounds at the position... A. Washington was a great pick, IMO... Young, strong, and nimble... Now bring on the coaching...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 And my point is that you shouldn't take a guy with an injury cloud hanging over him, while healthier, more useful options are available... Being cleared by medical staff doesn't mean an injury won't re-occur or be exacerbated by the wear and tear of the game.. Often ACL tears result from "planting" (the foot) while simultaneously shifting directions laterally. If Williams can't plant that foot right, an ACL tear could very well be next on the menu.... Now we've wasted a pick on a guy who may never be ready to go... That outcome, while not written in stone, is still a risk I would have tried harder to avoid... Like you said, he's a Bill now, so I hope he does well... As for Miller, I wouldn't have minded him that much... He's got familiarity with Jones, and has improved by leaps and bounds at the position... A. Washington was a great pick, IMO... Young, strong, and nimble... Now bring on the coaching... There is no injury cloud no matter how many ways you say it. If there were, he wouldn't have been drafted by them. You're trying way too hard.
White Linen Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 And my point is that you shouldn't take a guy with an injury cloud hanging over him, while healthier, more useful options are available... Being cleared by medical staff doesn't mean an injury won't re-occur or be exacerbated by the wear and tear of the game.. Often ACL tears result from "planting" (the foot) while simultaneously shifting directions laterally. If Williams can't plant that foot right, an ACL tear could very well be next on the menu.... Now we've wasted a pick on a guy who may never be ready to go... That outcome, while not written in stone, is still a risk I would have tried harder to avoid... Like you said, he's a Bill now, so I hope he does well... As for Miller, I wouldn't have minded him that much... He's got familiarity with Jones, and has improved by leaps and bounds at the position... A. Washington was a great pick, IMO... Young, strong, and nimble... Now bring on the coaching... Are you seriously saying your opinion should be taken as more likely than that of the Bills medical staff?
Augie Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Best draft ever? Doubt it seriously, but who knows... Now, does it look like the draft that made the most sense ever? Maybe.
#34fan Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 There is no injury cloud no matter how many ways you say it. If there were, he wouldn't have been drafted by them. You're trying way too hard. It's actually quite simple: NO to running backs who may not be able to RUN in the near future. -But since his worthless carcass is already here. GO BILLS!
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Best draft ever? Doubt it seriously, but who knows... Now, does it look like the draft that made the most sense ever? Maybe. @MarkLud12 Too many times under Donahoe (McGahee, Parrish), Marv/Jauron (Whitner/McCargo), Modrak/Jauron (Maybin) top picks came out of left field.
#34fan Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Are you seriously saying your opinion should be taken as more likely than that of the Bills medical staff? I think that's what you're saying
Augie Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 @MarkLud12 Too many times under Donahoe (McGahee, Parrish), Marv/Jauron (Whitner/McCargo), Modrak/Jauron (Maybin) top picks came out of left field. We've spent too many years lost in the land of the senseless. It's time to leave sadness behind......
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 We've spent too many years lost in the land of the senseless. It's time to leave sadness behind...... Agreed. But the tweet does buttress the point you were making about the picks making sense.
Augie Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Agreed. But the tweet does buttress the point you were making about the picks making sense. Oh, of course! I'm just a happy camper to see picks that seem so solid! Now, it will still take years to see who pans out, but at least I'm not scratching my head and telling myself fibs in the meantime.
GunnerBill Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) @MarkLud12 Too many times under Donahoe (McGahee, Parrish), Marv/Jauron (Whitner/McCargo), Modrak/Jauron (Maybin) top picks came out of left field. This is so true and it is why when we finally make the darn play-offs I hope at least a few people here take a second to appreciate Buddy Nix's contribution. Yes he missed some opportunities to answer the QB question but he at least got some discipline back into this organisation in respect how you try and draft and rebuild a roster from the bottom up. He was far from perfect but he was the first GM in what felt like forever to make sensible football decisions the majority of the time. Edited May 1, 2016 by GunnerBill
3rdand12 Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 i could go on for hours...the talent accumulated is ridiculous...regardless of the results...but to me best part is Whaley knew he had to address the QB situation. Rumors all over trying to get second pick...Denver wants Tyrod..blow it all up, etc. Whether you like Jones or not..DW figures out how to swing for home run, and give both qb's vote of confidence..we're ready to roll into year two of this...tyrod go earn 20 million. EJ go earn a second contract. He figured out how to keep EJ and give him one more shot. I'm not saying come September we don't have Hoyer or somebody backing up, but picking a qb at two would have been a disaster. The draft isn't all about accumulating talent, it's also about motivating the talent you have. damn good post We will get to see who steps up. I think overall this has to be one of the best drafts. ( I loved the move to get Sammy, lot of you did not like it when it happened.) I was one, without question Anybody else concerned about the 4th round RB who was out of football last year because he had his foot amputated? Well, not amputated actually, but it's like he's one short heart beat away from a bursted-aorta-like loss of his foot... from the knee down. This sounds like something we should obsess over for the next several weeks, now that The Draft is concluded. i have concerns. and this post is just cracking the can of sardines in oil open. time well tell cop out ; )
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 This is so true and it is why when we finally make the darn play-offs I hope at least a few people here take a second to appreciate Buddy Nix's contribution. Yes he missed some opportunities to answer the QB question but he at least got some discipline back into this organisation in respect how you try and draft and rebuild a roster from the bottom up. He was far from perfect but he was the first GM in what felt like forever to make sensible football decisions the majority of the time. Yes I agree with this premise. As a matter of fact, it may well underrated by many on this board, Buddy laid the foundation. Far from perfect for sure, better than most credit him for!
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) I think this is Whaleys best draft ON PAPER. Because ON PAPER We out drafted everyone in the AFC East easily. We got 3 day one starters with Shaq OLB/DE, Reggie ILB, and Listenbee (WR3), 2 stud depth players in Adolphus Washington at DT (to replace Kyle eventually), and the best Williams available pick at RB we took in the 5th that had a 3rd round grade (we are a running team, now we have 4 capable RBs, 3 young with upside that are not named Bryce Brown and Boom Heron), a developmental boom or bust QB that could be Cam 2.0 or clip holder 2.0, and a CB that had a 1st round grade before the season started until the shenanigans at USC kinda shaded him in the media. We filled every whole our defense had except for Saftey. Listenbee has less of a chance of getting inJured then Goodwin bc he has more weight and is a little taller. Listenbee is great to have bc even though he has to work on his route tree, he kills people on the Go route and thats gonna take a safety off Watkins after one of TTs long bombs to Listenbee burns them for a TD. I am pleased with this draft even though S and RT went un-addressed. ON PAPER it was a great draft and we did better then the rest of the AFCE. As we all know games arent played on paper so its gonna be a nice long 3 months before **** gets real. ^^THIS Very good draft. Wouldvr preferred Billings over Washington bc we need a nose but I'm very happy with it. Interesting quote from Rex (paraphrased): "We're gonna run a 5-2 like I did in Baltimore and when I was first with the Jets. Shaq is on the outside and Jerry will be opposite. But in the middle, you'll have Marcell, Kyle and Corbin/Adolphus. But where will they be? Who knows. And the offense won't know either. We won't be predictable like we were last year when you knew who the SAM was every down and other things." So, we didn't want a nose because we're not running a 3-4 base...which is news to many of us. Edited May 1, 2016 by BEAST MODE BABY!
Go-Bills Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Guess we will have to rely on the medical staff knowing what they are doing. Good Draft!
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