Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Short yardage comparison...not QB...as per bolded I get a sense you don't like this pick either? Your sense is incorrect. Like most of your hot takes. Jones has a very high ceiling at a position of need for the Bills. He's no threat to Taylor this year, and since he cost essentially a 5th round pick to attain, there won't be any rush to get him onto the field in the first two years. He was the right pick (for me) at the right spot. Jones wasn't my favorite QB in the class, but I don't think the Bills needed to take a QB high because Taylor will be given every chance to prove he's the long term answer. And I believe Taylor IS the long term answer for the Bills based on last year. Though, if I'm wrong, it's nice to have someone like Jones developing with Roman and Lee.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 They can, however, save a roster spot..... Opening up a roster spot on EJ would be the correct move. Your sense is incorrect. Like most of your hot takes. Jones has a very high ceiling at a position of need for the Bills. He's no threat to Taylor this year, and since he cost essentially a 5th round pick to attain, there won't be any rush to get him onto the field in the first two years. He was the right pick (for me) at the right spot. Jones wasn't my favorite QB in the class, but I don't think the Bills needed to take a QB high because Taylor will be given every chance to prove he's the long term answer. And I believe Taylor IS the long term answer for the Bills based on last year. Though, if I'm wrong, it's nice to have someone like Jones developing with Roman and Lee. I was being sarcastic.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I was being sarcastic. So you're as bad at sarcasm as you are at hot takes. Got it.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) So you're as bad at sarcasm as you are at hot takes. Got it. Like the Bills being 8-8 last year...oops. Edited April 30, 2016 by BuffaloBillsForever
BuffaninATL Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Wasn't Aguayo taken in the second? Maybe it wasn't such a bad idea....... yes he was. My point was that some on this board seem to have a paranoia and lack of confidence in Whaley that he would do such a thing.
iinii Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cardale-jones?id=2555426 don't start counting them chickens just yet.......
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Like the Bills being 8-8 last year...oops. You're on record for 5 wins this year. Let's see how that turns out before you do a naked celebration dance.
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Comparison of Jones to Carson Wentz http://presnapreads.com/2016/04/02/the-value-of-cardale-jones/
CNY315 Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 @MatthewFairburn The Buffalo #Bills have selected QB Cardale Jones with the No. 139 pick in the fourth round of the NFL Draft. @buffalobills We told you a QB was coming. Welcome to the Bills family, Cardale Jones! #BillsDraft4-30: NEWEST BILLS QB CARDALE JONES WITH MATTHEW COLLER ON WGR (6:19) Sounds like a good kid
The Jokeman Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I don't love this pick because any QB taken in the later rounds is typically a wasted pick. And yet... we had to pick a QB at some point. Both our QBs are nearing the end of their contracts and TT is not a proven franchise guy. Jones is raw but has shown flashes of brilliance. Let's say Roman and Lee mold him into a quality backup. Is he still a waste of a 4th round pick? How much is a good backup QB worth? I'd rather Chris Palmer working with him than Lee. To me this a low risk high reward pick this point in draft.
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Thank you sir! Been following the board for years but got season tickets for the first time going into this season. So i figured I'd join the fray! Welcome aboard. See you at the opener tailgate.
BUFFALOTONE Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Not a real fan, Jamarcus Russel light. Teams figured him out last year. Great arm strength, above average athlete but nothing between the ears.
Virgil Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 5th (basically) on a guy that Whaley is straight up saying won't be a qb for us for at least another year. What's the harm? If he pans out, great. I don't think he will. I think he will end up just as good as 80% of the qbs taken every year, nowhere. Again, for a 5th, worth a shot.
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Like the Bills being 8-8 last year...oops. You're on record for 5 wins this year. Let's see how that turns out before you do a naked celebration dance. Enough. Take it to pm if you need to continue.
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 5th (basically) on a guy that Whaley is straight up saying won't be a qb for us for at least another year. What's the harm? If he pans out, great. I don't think he will. I think he will end up just as good as 80% of the qbs taken every year, nowhere. Again, for a 5th, worth a shot. Sensible take.
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Not a real fan, Jamarcus Russel light. Teams figured him out last year. Great arm strength, above average athlete but nothing between the ears. Not true. My uneducated eyes tell me that UM tried to force Jones into his system. That system doesn't match Jones' skill set. Watch a bit of footage from 14 and then 15. You'll see that the offenses were nothing like each other. Why Meyer decided to try to fit a round peg into a square hole is beyond me.
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) He is a damn fine fit for Greg Roman's offense and coaching, in terms of development as a project QB. Perfect QB pick IMO. Battle it out with EJ in camp for backup role this year and hopefully assume backup role next year. Basically it's perfect...EJ will likely remain the number 2, which will give Cardale a lot of time to learn and be groomed as the backup next year because there is no way we resign EJ to a second contract which be way more than what he is worth. Cardale has a lot of raw physical talent, now he just has to work to bring the rest of game up and the BIlls get to see how high they can get that this year without him having to take the field...and if he beats out EJ, even better, he is ahead of schedule then. BTW, will the Bills be the only team in NFL history that has 3 black QBs on the roster day 1? Edited April 30, 2016 by matter2003
reddogblitz Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Opening up a roster spot on EJ would be the correct move. Going into a season where are going for and have a legit shot at the playoffs with a 4th round rookie project as 2nd string behind a running/somewhat injury prone QB would be beyond dumb IMHO. Edited April 30, 2016 by reddogblitz
QCity Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Remember, we came here to play football, we ain't come to play school classes are pointless.
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