atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Posted April 30, 2016 Exactly. Looking at early round picks,in their history, the Jets have drafted: - one HOF QB (Namath) - two very good NFL QBs while they lasted (O'Brien, Pennington) - one decent longer term starter (Todd) - one mediocre QB straddling between starter and backup (Sanchez) - two busts (Kellen Clemens and Geno Smith, both 2nd rounders) - two "too soon to tells" (Petty, Hackenburg) The Bills? - one HOFer - one very good medium-term starter (Lamonica, although not as a Bills QB) - one decent long-term starter (Ferguson) - one very good long-term backup (Reich) - four busts (Shaw, a 2nd rounder; Losman, a 1st rounder; Edwards, a 3rd rounder; Manuel, a 1st rounder) (Did I miss anyone? James Harris was an 8th round pick success story, but, of course, not as a Bill) EDIT: Lamonica was a 12th rounder, so he fits in the James Harris category -- not a high-round pick Somewhere some Jets fan is saying, "The entire history of the Bills is one bad QB pick after another." Nice work.Another thought crossed me mind- who has drafted QB's well? Dallas, SF, GB, Pitt... For me it would be three QB's that have won a SB(championship) and played at least 5 years. During that time won
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Ken O'Brien was actually a decent QB... until you put Marino's #s up for comparison and realize the Jets are stoooooopid. And Pennington, who in his prime would look great in this offense.
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Nice work. Another thought crossed me mind- who has drafted QB's well? Dallas, SF, GB, Pitt... For me it would be three QB's that have won a SB(championship) and played at least 5 years. During that time won The Colts have drafted a number of great QBs. And the Broncos don't mind it.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Exactly. Looking at early round picks,in their history, the Jets have drafted: - one HOF QB (Namath) - two very good NFL QBs while they lasted (O'Brien, Pennington) - one decent longer term starter (Todd) - one mediocre QB straddling between starter and backup (Sanchez) - two busts (Kellen Clemens and Geno Smith, both 2nd rounders) - two "too soon to tells" (Petty, Hackenburg) The Bills? - one HOFer - one very good medium-term starter (Lamonica, although not as a Bills QB) - one decent long-term starter (Ferguson) - one very good long-term backup (Reich) - four busts (Shaw, a 2nd rounder; Losman, a 1st rounder; Edwards, a 3rd rounder; Manuel, a 1st rounder) (Did I miss anyone? James Harris was an 8th round pick success story, but, of course, not as a Bill) EDIT: Lamonica was a 12th rounder, so he fits in the James Harris category -- not a high-round pick Somewhere some Jets fan is saying, "The entire history of the Bills is one bad QB pick after another." so true! We did have Kemp, never saw him but I assumed he was solid.
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 so true! We did have Kemp, never saw him but I assumed he was solid. Yep, we had Kemp, but he was pre-AFL/pre-draft, so I didn't count him. I'm sure some team can lay claim to a worse record of QB drafting than the Bills, but right now nobody comes to mind ... we're at one -- ONE -- top tier QB in our entire franchise history and 50 years of the draft ....
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I gotta admit....I liked Petty in last years draft....why are the jets not giving him a chance.
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I gotta admit....I liked Petty in last years draft....why are the jets not giving him a chance. Because he sucks. They wouldn't have taken Hack in the 2nd if they thought Petty was worth anything.
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Because he sucks. They wouldn't have taken Hack in the 2nd if they thought Petty was worth anything. Or maybe they're doing a Shanahan/Redskins thing (Griffin + Cousins), but one year apart ...
transient Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Or maybe they're doing a Shanahan/Redskins thing (Griffin + Cousins), but one year apart ... Wouldn't this be more like a Cousins + Cousins thing? I don't see anyone with pre-injury RG III potential on their roster.
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Wouldn't this be more like a Cousins + Cousins thing? I don't see anyone with pre-injury RG III potential on their roster. Right. Good point. And like pitching prospects in baseball, you just hope for a 50% hit rate.
yungmack Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 so true! We did have Kemp, never saw him but I assumed he was solid. Bills didn't draft him,he was grabbed off waivers. Best QBs the Bills ever drafted? Toss up between Kelly and LaMonica. That's an abysmal record.
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Bills didn't draft him,he was grabbed off waivers. Best QBs the Bills ever drafted? Toss up between Kelly and LaMonica. That's an abysmal record. One hit every 20 years, except now ... 33 years and counting.
Nick the Greek Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 The entire history of the Jets is one bad QB pick after another. It's really bizarre Oh yea, and the Bills are so much better..
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Because he sucks. They wouldn't have taken Hack in the 2nd if they thought Petty was worth anything. The slow-twitch neurons are holding him back. Not really his fault.
DC Tom Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Exactly. Looking at early round picks,in their history, the Jets have drafted: - one HOF QB (Namath) - two very good NFL QBs while they lasted (O'Brien, Pennington) - one decent longer term starter (Todd) - one mediocre QB straddling between starter and backup (Sanchez) - two busts (Kellen Clemens and Geno Smith, both 2nd rounders) - two "too soon to tells" (Petty, Hackenburg) The Bills? - one HOFer - one very good medium-term starter (Lamonica, although not as a Bills QB) - one decent long-term starter (Ferguson) - one very good long-term backup (Reich) - four busts (Shaw, a 2nd rounder; Losman, a 1st rounder; Edwards, a 3rd rounder; Manuel, a 1st rounder) (Did I miss anyone? James Harris was an 8th round pick success story, but, of course, not as a Bill) EDIT: Lamonica was a 12th rounder, so he fits in the James Harris category -- not a high-round pick Somewhere some Jets fan is saying, "The entire history of the Bills is one bad QB pick after another." You missed Clod Tollins. 2nd rounder, I think?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Yep, we had Kemp, but he was pre-AFL/pre-draft, so I didn't count him. I'm sure some team can lay claim to a worse record of QB drafting than the Bills, but right now nobody comes to mind ... we're at one -- ONE -- top tier QB in our entire franchise history and 50 years of the draft .... sadness, now you are making me depressed. Wouldn't this be more like a Cousins + Cousins thing? I don't see anyone with pre-injury RG III potential on their roster. Geno The slow-twitch neurons are holding him back. Not really his fault. That's the problem with spread QBs, just like the one we just drafted
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 The Cheaters have been doing the same thing since they got lucky with Brady. Their only success was 7th rounder Cassel, who they got a 2nd for from their former GM Scott Pioli when he went to KC, but since then nada. Mallett was a 3rd rounder who was traded for a 7th, Garropppollloo will likely get them nothing when he leaves after his rookie contract, and they just drafted Brissett in the 3rd round. Don't forget Hoyer.
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Don't forget Hoyer. He was undrafted and is a backup at best.
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