JM57 Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 So you don't like the Bama defense? Nope, and Gilmore still stinks
John from Riverside Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 I thought it was interesting at the combine Ragland was being compared to TAKEO Spikes....not Brandon Spikes I would take that in a heartbeat
K-9 Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 I thought it was interesting at the combine Ragland was being compared to TAKEO Spikes....not Brandon Spikes I would take that in a heartbeat I wish he had Takeo's speed, but other than that, the comparison is an apt one. He doesn't have top end speed, but that's the only element of his game that's lacking. But Brandon Spikes was molasses at the South Pole. There's a comfortable neutral ground between elite speed for LBs and being able to measure a 40 time with a sun dial. Especially when all the other elements are there like they are with Ragland. GO BILLS!!!
3rdand12 Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) I am going to remind everyone i said " at 49 this would be a fantastic pick for the Bills" But i never ever expected him to drop into the second round, so i thinks it was great move up with the extra 4th. I will go on notice that the naysayers will have to apologise about this kid once the see him crushing it. and Offenses being forced to play around him. Great pick at that spot. and he will excel at the LB position Edited May 1, 2016 by 3rdand12
Cover 1 Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 4th round is where the QB would've been picked. I'd rather they'd have traded up for Jack. I had similar thoughts. Technically we overpaid based on the value chart. But I think this was one of those need meets BPA moments. I had him as a second rounder. I hoping for one of those massive DTs in the second making the lbs jobs we have easier. He will struggle in coverage a bit. But can do everything else. He's a leader love that the most. Sounds like Whaley and Rex are trying to recreate the old Ravens defense. After that draft I would have to say they did a great job of bringing in the right talent. Ragland is the LB that this defense needs.
Doc Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 I had similar thoughts. Technically we overpaid based on the value chart. But I think this was one of those need meets BPA moments. I had him as a second rounder. I hoping for one of those massive DTs in the second making the lbs jobs we have easier. He will struggle in coverage a bit. But can do everything else. He's a leader love that the most. Sounds like Whaley and Rex are trying to recreate the old Ravens defense. After that draft I would have to say they did a great job of bringing in the right talent. Ragland is the LB that this defense needs. Based on what they gave up this year, they underpaid. The fourth rounder next year is of no real concern and the Bills have time to get that back.
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Based on what they gave up this year, they underpaid. The fourth rounder next year is of no real concern and the Bills have time to get that back.especially since they have an extra 5th next year from the Cassel trade. Edited May 2, 2016 by YoloinOhio
TPS Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 Based on what they gave up this year, they underpaid. The fourth rounder next year is of no real concern and the Bills have time to get that back.It's a bit like an art auction, value is in the eyes of the buyer. They were willing to trade for the first pick in R2, but got him at 41. It was a steal in the eyes of the Bills but not the naysaying Bills fans. We'll find out this season.
4merper4mer Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 Rex just said Ragland is his Bart Scott and Alabama plays the "college version" of his defense. Somebody tell 4merper4mer apparently that defense still works. You're basing the supposition that Rex's defense still works on the statement from Rex stating that his defense still works? In college? Against guys that will never sniff the NFL? Do you think our 2015 defense was #1 in the league? Because Rex said that it would be and you seem to take everything he says as an absolute. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy that we seem to have acquired quality players, including Ragland, to replace the quality players Rex was unable to use. But maybe you should notify me that Rex's defense still works......when it actually starts working. It isn't really necessary though because if it happens I will see it with my own eyes and be happy. You can make fun of me all you want and i will happily admit the error of my ways. At this point however, the mocking is premature.
eball Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 You're basing the supposition that Rex's defense still works on the statement from Rex stating that his defense still works? In college? Against guys that will never sniff the NFL? Do you think our 2015 defense was #1 in the league? Because Rex said that it would be and you seem to take everything he says as an absolute. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy that we seem to have acquired quality players, including Ragland, to replace the quality players Rex was unable to use. But maybe you should notify me that Rex's defense still works......when it actually starts working. It isn't really necessary though because if it happens I will see it with my own eyes and be happy. You can make fun of me all you want and i will happily admit the error of my ways. At this point however, the mocking is premature. Your crusade (or trolling expedition -- I still haven't decided which) has grown tiresome. There's not a person on this board who hasn't conceded the defense was a disappointment last season. What is entirely up for debate, however, is why it was a disappointment -- which is why I have tuned you out and sent this subtle jab. We'll see soon enough how the Bills' defense performs.
4merper4mer Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 Your crusade (or trolling expedition -- I still haven't decided which) has grown tiresome. There's not a person on this board who hasn't conceded the defense was a disappointment last season. What is entirely up for debate, however, is why it was a disappointment -- which is why I have tuned you out and sent this subtle jab. We'll see soon enough how the Bills' defense performs. Even if our expectations are different I'm sure our hopes are identical.
3rdand12 Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 especially since they have an extra 5th next year from the Cassel trade. Forgot about that ! It's a bit like an art auction, value is in the eyes of the buyer. They were willing to trade for the first pick in R2, but got him at 41. It was a steal in the eyes of the Bills but not the naysaying Bills fans. We'll find out this season. I thought the pros all had him mocked in the first and in the top 4 of LBs?? True enough TPS, we shall find out soon enough Even if our expectations are different I'm sure our hopes are identical. I like this statement
Bill from NYC Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) So you don't like the Bama defense? I love the Bama defense and saw pretty much every game in which Ragland has played. I do however think that Rex has a ton of nerve to compare the mess he put on the field last season to the Bama defense. If Bama's defense was that bad, Kirby Smart would have been fired long before the season was over. That said, enjoy watching Ragland! I am telling you that the kid is always around the football. You are going to appreciate this football player. Edited May 3, 2016 by Bill from NYC
John from Riverside Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 Even if our expectations are different I'm sure our hopes are identical. Absolutely
3rdand12 Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) I love the Bama defense and saw pretty much every game in which Ragland has played. I do however think that Rex has a ton of nerve to compare the mess he put on the field last season to the Bama defense. If Bama's defense was that bad, Kirby Smart would have been fired long before the season was over. That said, enjoy watching Ragland! I am telling you that the kid is always around the football. You are going to appreciate this football player. Good news from a Man who knows Alabama first hand Edited May 3, 2016 by 3rdand12
26CornerBlitz Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 @KISS985BUFFALO Interview: @buffalobills 2nd round pick @reggieragland http://www.kiss985.com/blogs/janet-nick-morning/buffalo-bills-2nd-round-pick-lb-reggie-ragland
26CornerBlitz Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Ready to play: Instant-impact rookies Can Corey Coleman become the playmaker Cleveland fans have dreamed of? Will Braxton Miller rise to the occasion as Houston's WR2? Gil Brandt lists 11 draftees set to contribute right away. Reggie Ragland, LB, Buffalo Bills Drafted in: Round 2, No. 41 overall.Ragland has a lot of the same physical qualities as David Harris, who played extremely well for Rex Ryan when Ryan was with the Jets. I expect Ragland to fill the Harris role under Ryan in Buffalo. The SEC Defensive Player of the Year had 102 tackles and seven pass breakups in 2015. The latter stat is important, because one of the things you worry about with someone who has Ragland's 4.72 speed is the ability to cover tight ends and running backs -- but that was something Ragland clearly was able to do in college. He has very good instincts and strengths, and he's an outstanding tackler. When he gets to 'em, they go down. He's also a great character person. I expect him to rack up 100-plus tackles and improve Buffalo's defense by 7 points per game. Edited May 3, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz
Lord_MacDonald Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Ready to play: Instant-impact rookies Reggie Ragland, LB, Buffalo BillsDrafted in: Round 2, No. 41 overall. Ragland has a lot of the same physical qualities as David Harris, who played extremely well for Rex Ryan when Ryan was with the Jets. I expect Ragland to fill the Harris role under Ryan in Buffalo. The SEC Defensive Player of the Year had 102 tackles and seven pass breakups in 2015. The latter stat is important, because one of the things you worry about with someone who has Ragland's 4.72 speed is the ability to cover tight ends and running backs -- but that was something Ragland clearly was able to do in college. He has very good instincts and strengths, and he's an outstanding tackler. When he gets to 'em, they go down. He's also a great character person. I expect him to rack up 100-plus tackles and improve Buffalo's defense by 7 points per game. I was thinking the same thing regarding David Harris. Definitely some similarities there. Hopefully he can be as good if not better in the near future. *edit* Now we just need to find our version of Bart Scott. Need that "vocal leader" haha Edited May 3, 2016 by Lord_MacDonald
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