TPS Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Watch: Doug Whaley Discuss Ragland Pick (7:03) good stuff. They were looking for partners beginning with Cleveland!One can look at the trade as Ragland was worth 800 (21st pick value), and they paid about 500 to get him. The last time I was this excited about. R2 pick was Sam Cowart!
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Whaley also said their top three guys were Shaq, Ragland -- then he never named the third. Wonder who it was. Aguayo
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 floyd maybe That's a good guess. Maybe we'll find out when they release that Chris Brown Inside the War Room special thing they've done the past two years.
Nervous Guy Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Is this a knock on his athleticism or his Wonderlic? I've been wracking my brain, and the only reason I can surmise that he'd get gassed from chasing his own QB is because he's an idiot.
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I feel so much better about our front 7 right now, both starters and depth
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Waiting to see who the third round pick is That was my first thought actually! Not their top 3 - the three they were debating at 19, right? Guessing Butler. I could be am wrong, the way I took it was saying top 3 overall. It's right near the end of the press conference about Ragland on the Bills site. Just read the Chris Brown article that makes it clear. Aguayo Edited April 30, 2016 by Deranged Rhino
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 BILLS TRADE EFFORTS REWARDED WITH PRIZED LB REGGIE RAGLAND Buffalo's personnel department determined late Thursday night they were going to try to make a trade to get in position in round two to take LB Reggie Ragland. Their day long efforts were ultimately rewarded following a trade with Chicago.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I feel so much better about our front 7 right now, both starters and depth here, here! :beer:
Marty McFly Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) @BuffaloBillsPR The @buffalobills have now added the ACC Defensive Player of the Year (Shaq Lawson) & the SEC Defensive Player of the Year (Reggie Ragland). The picks sound genius when you say it like that. Whaley is doin his thing. we still can Dude whats up with jack and jalen?? teams are really not trying to deal with the injury ****. They might go undrafted the way it looks. EDIT: They went to the Cows and jags What, are you a f'n cardiologist? Relax. I'm guessing the FO knows better than you. Figure out a way to root for him, Mr. Know-it-all. I have a degree in EKG, hell be fine it wont affect his play unless he gains 100lbs of FAT and smokes a lot. a lot a lot. Edited April 30, 2016 by Marty McFly
KOKBILLS Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Whaley also said their top three guys were Shaq, Ragland -- then he never named the third. Wonder who it was. Well...I'm glad they landed on Shaq there... This talk about loving Ragland at #19 is all fine and dandy now that they got him at #41 (plus two 4th rd picks...)...But if they had taken him at #19 I would have been very disappointed... As I've said here before 100 times I like Ragland...He's a very good football player...But...When you have a player that College teams...I'll say it again...College teams went after and exploited in pass coverage...What exactly do you think Belichick is going to do?...I did not...and still do not believe he was a #19 overall pick...I do however like the pick in the 2nd...It's fine value there because he is going to play a lot...I'm going to be interested to see him at the Will...One thing I do not question with Ragland is his effort on the field...And he definitely is more than a thumper...I'm very interested in Mayock's comments about his weight issues...And I look at this in a positive light...If Ragland gets serious about being a Pro condition-wise it may quick him up a bit...Because when you watch his tape, instincts are not a problem...And when he sees it he looks to bring violent pain... I just want to add how much I absolutely, positively HATE giving up Draft picks to trade up...Right or wrong, and admittedly I'm usually wrong, I hate it and it makes me angry... I have a degree in EKG, hell be fine it wont affect his play unless he gains 100lbs of FAT and smokes a lot. a lot a lot. Don't give him any ideas... Edited April 30, 2016 by KOKBILLS
Green Lightning Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Cravens is the same speed and 25-30 pounds lighter. Cravens can cover. Speed doesn't = cover skills. When Gronk and Bennett are 6 yrs past Ragland for their 10 catch we're going to regret this.
Marty McFly Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Cravens can cover. Speed doesn't = cover skills. When Gronk and Bennett are 6 yrs past Ragland for their 10 catch we're going to regret this. I would love to say Rex isnt dumb enuff to let Ragland cover Gronk but, after last season.....uh.....I wouldnt be surprised? LOL I doubt they let Ragland cover Gronk but it is Rex and co so who knows... Anyway for those that wanna feel better about our 3rd round pick, read up at this link http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016awashington.php here, here! :beer: I agree however, not happy with our Safteys and WRs. If we leave the draft witout a good Saftey and WR im gonna throw some shade at Whaley. Saftey is very important in Rexs scheme and we have no stars at that position.
Doc Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Cravens can cover. Speed doesn't = cover skills. When Gronk and Bennett are 6 yrs past Ragland for their 10 catch we're going to regret this. Cravens is 6'1" and 222# and runs a 4.69. Gronk and Bennett would swat him off like a fly and then fly past him. Same for Correa.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Reggie Ragland Alabama ILB Buffalo from CHI Video Highlights What he brings:The top run-stopping linebacker in this class, Ragland brings size, excellent point-of-attack skills and a strong understanding of geometry with pursuit angles to provide him with sideline-to-sideline range. He also brings a physical element to his game and is an impactful knock-back tackler. While he has some athletic limitations, he has better third-down value than people think, including an underrated pass-rushing presence. He also brings outstanding football character and is one of the more NFL-ready prospects who could step in on day one as a starter. -- Kevin Weidl How he fits:The 18th-best player on our board and the best player available, Ragland is an excellent value at this point in Round 2. He represents an immediate upgrade over inside linebacker Preston Brown, who struggled last year, and Ragland is a powerful run-stopper who should help improve Buffalo's run defense, which finished 16th in rushing yards allowed per game in 2015. While he's not great in coverage, defensive coordinator Dennis Thurman could use him as a pass-rusher. -- Steve Muench ESPN's Take^^
Chilly Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I agree however, not happy with our Safteys and WRs. If we leave the draft witout a good Saftey and WR im gonna throw some shade at Whaley. Saftey is very important in Rexs scheme and we have no stars at that position. I think they think Blanton can play the other safety spot opposite Aaron Williams.
Mark80 Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 To anyone in this thread who says they hate this pick....I would love to agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 I like the pick, BUT I don't like that we coughed up 2 4th round picks to get him. I'm in the crowd that would have waited to see what fell to us. So you have a problem giving up two fourths for (essentially) a 1st round talent? I think you're using new math or something.
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Wrong thread for this so this will be my last comment here but Rex took him from promising to the lowest graded LB in the league then mocked him for being timid and dumb. Now they draft a guy in the same position. You don't have to be a psychic. Brown seems like a good dude and I hope he does well wherever he ends up. Except Whaley said Preston Brown will play the MIKE and Ragland will play the WILL. Now, where's that guy who was complaining about trading up to 41 who had Ragland at 19 in his mock draft? ROFL! Edited April 30, 2016 by BEAST MODE BABY!
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 RAGLAND EXPECTED TO FILL LB ROLE NEXT TO PRESTON BROWN Reggie Ragland was another player who GM Doug Whaley sees as a day one starter in Buffalo's defense. He's expected to play the weak inside linebacker spot.
Chilly Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 My initial reaction was to hate the Ragland pick, mainly because we passed up Jarran Reed. Well: http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/04/29/bong-show-ole-miss-impacts-chad-kelly-bills-three-picks-draft-notes/ Ryan was ecstatic to add Clemson defensive end Shaq Lawson and Ragland to his unit. Buffalo then tried to trade back into the second round to snag Alabama defensive tackle Jarran Reed, tantalizingly still there eight picks after Ragland.The Bills, however, weren't alone in their desires. The Seattle Seahawks swooped in with a trade to take Reed 49th overall, the Bills' original pick before trading up to get Ragland. This makes me feel a little better anyway. At least they tried to get him. If Whaley believes Ragland is that much better than a huge impact NT then I'm on board.
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