Doc Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Your equating Fitz and Hackenberg is worth a giggle. You would screw your team and fans over for a few millimeters of cap space? No you wouldn't. Giving Fitz a 3-year deal in the neighborhood of $14M/year would be the definition of screwing your team and fans. He'll be unlikely to come close to duplicating his career year last year, one that still wan't good enough to get them into the playoffs.
Mr. WEO Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 i believe the words" i think" are much different than " i know" ...but maybe that is a tough concept to understand. Ok...if you haven't heard anything about any numbers of any kind, why would you go right to a number range that high? Giving Fitz a 3-year deal in the neighborhood of $14M/year would be the definition of screwing your team and fans. He'll be unlikely to come close to duplicating his career year last year, one that still wan't good enough to get them into the playoffs. If they sign him to 14 mil a year times 3, there's not going to be a huge guarantee. I'm sure he knows that. And they can cut him next year if they want. If the criteria for not paying starting QBs is whether they make the playoffs or not, you and the rest of the NFL have some explaining to do regarding recent and existing QB contract renewals.
Saxum Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 None which is why I want them to sign him for insane amount of money b.c I know even with Fitz they never will. We need to get you in fast lane for Jest GM - you seem to have same foolish ideas as the GM they dumped had. i believe the words" i think" are much different than " i know" ...but maybe that is a tough concept to understand. For you it appears "I think" and "I make up like a Bills reporter" seem to be same thing. Baseless speculation based on poor opinion of subject.
Maury Ballstein Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 "Harvard friends" will help you buy NFL teams. Lulzzzzzz Fitz is crap, if I'm the jets I roll the dice with the young ones. Fitz ain't the key to anything.
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 "Harvard friends" will help you buy NFL teams. Lulzzzzzz Fitz is crap, if I'm the jets I roll the dice with the young ones. Fitz ain't the key to anything. Jest are just in a bad spot
YoloinOhio Posted May 25, 2016 Author Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Jest are just in a bad spotThey will realize all they have is each other and he will sign with the Jests. They will overpay. They will go 6-10. They will cut him right before FA. They will sign some other QB to compete with Sackenberg. Petty will continue to only play football online and Geno will become a member of the Browns. Fitz will be signed as a "vet backup" by some team with a young QB. The end. Edited May 25, 2016 by YoloinOhio
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 one more question please before the curtain falls. How do they pay him? Last the were nearly broke against the cap?
iinii Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2641772-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-mark-cuban-talks-nfl-expansion
plenzmd1 Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 For you it appears "I think" and "I make up like a Bills reporter" seem to be same thing. Baseless speculation based on poor opinion of subject. Have i missed something here? This is a message board, with a bunch of fans on it, that express their opinion. I stated " i think" this could be the reason he has not agreed to terms. Absolutely speculation...hence the words I think, not i know! Where TF is the confusion???
BADOLBILZ Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 Gotta feel for Bowles being forced to say silly stuff like this. I have a solution: Woody can sign Fitz to a 5 year $90M contract and only guarantee about $60M of it and then Fitz will only count as 4.88% of their salary cap this year. I gotta' give credit to eball for the idea........pretty sure he could out-dorf Overdorf if given the chance.
YoloinOhio Posted May 26, 2016 Author Posted May 26, 2016 Now I've heard it all @briancoz Eric Decker skipped OTAs this week because he is upset the organization has yet to sign Ryan Fitzpatrick, according to a source. #nyj
CommonCents Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 Now I've heard it all @briancoz Eric Decker skipped OTAs this week because he is upset the organization has yet to sign Ryan Fitzpatrick, according to a source. #nyj Have you seen his wife? I would be making excuses to stay home too.
reddogblitz Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 a guy who choked away the playoffs the year before. I was at that game. While Fitz messed up, he was by far the only Jet choking away the playoffs that day. Marshall and Decker dropped passes. Their D couldn't get the Bills O off the field to save necks. It was a team choke. Fitz threw more TDs last year than any other QB in Jets franchise history (56 years). Cut him a little husk, just a little . He had a lot of help. Have you seen his wife? I would be making excuses to stay home too. Yeah, the lawn needs mowing.
Doc Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 I was at that game. While Fitz messed up, he was by far the only Jet choking away the playoffs that day. Marshall and Decker dropped passes. Their D couldn't get the Bills O off the field to save necks. It was a team choke. Fitz threw more TDs last year than any other QB in Jets franchise history (56 years). Cut him a little husk, just a little . He had a lot of help. Hey, I hope the Jets give him a huge contract and screw themselves down the line with their extensions of old players. There is no way he's duplicating his season from last year.
JohnC Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) The Jets are doing the same thing as what the Bills did with Fitz. They are willing to keep him on a short term deal (related to actual $$$) at a particular price range. It is a talent to contract ratio. There is nothing out of the ordinary or irresponsible about their position. When it comes to options Fitz has little leverage because no other team is willing to have him on their roster, let alone pay him. The Jets simply need a bridge qb for a year or so. Fitz is a backup caliber of qb who happened to start on teams without a starting qb. He is the type of qb who falls in the category of "let's just get by with him" until we get a real starter. Fitz is a smart guy with a secure ego and is aware that he is at the end of the line in this phase of his career. The Jets are aware at this point he is the best immediate option they have. So I'm sure that a deal will eventually get done. The bottom line is Fitz is Fitz. You don't get anywhere serious with a Fitz type of qb. If even Buffalo can recognize that then the Jets and every team in the league can also recognize that which is so obvious. If Fitz should take an uncompromising stance (which I don't think will happen) then the Jets would just move on and find another mediocre qb to fill in. Edited May 26, 2016 by JohnC
FireChan Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 The Jets are doing the same thing as what the Bills did with Fitz. They are willing to keep him on a short term deal (related to actual $$$) at a particular price range. It is a talent to contract ratio. There is nothing out of the ordinary or irresponsible about their position. When it comes to options Fitz has little leverage because no other team is willing to have him on their roster, let alone pay him. The Jets simply need a bridge qb for a year or so. Fitz is a backup caliber of qb who happened to start on teams without a starting qb. He is the type of qb who falls in the category of "let's just get by with him" until we get a real starter. Fitz is a smart guy with a secure ego and is aware that he is at the end of the line in this phase of his career. The Jets are aware at this point he is the best immediate option they have. So I'm sure that a deal will eventually get done. The bottom line is Fitz is Fitz. You don't get anywhere serious with a Fitz type of qb. If even Buffalo can recognize that then the Jets and every team in the league can also recognize that which is so obvious. If Fitz should take an uncompromising stance (which I don't think will happen) then the Jets would just move on and find another mediocre qb to fill in. The Jets don't have a mediocre QB.
JohnC Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 The Jets don't have a mediocre QB. Search the market for garbage. Plenty available.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 @PatKirwanCBS Case for Fitzpatrick: http://goo.gl/IQYIu0 1st step, create framework for a deal #NYJ clearly using Chase Daniel deal in PHI as guideline
FireChan Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 Search the market for garbage. Plenty available. Any coming off a top 15 season?
reddogblitz Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Any coming off a top 15 season? Any that set the Jets franchise record for TD passes? 56 years and better than 1 HOF QB and a soon to be HOF QB.
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