Astrobot Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) I trust Doug Whaley more than most, and know he'll do the best for the Bills tonight, tomorrow, Saturday, and down the road. Here's the context for Draft Day. Over 2 years, Whaley has improved Bills coaching, with Greg Roman, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, and newbie Pro Bowler Ed Reed. His best coach signings may be veterans John Blake the new DL Coach and David Lee the Quarterback Whisperer. He scooped up a mobile quarterback in Tyrod, re-signed a Pro Bowl LG Incognito, traded for Top 3 RB Shady McCoy, outbid rival Fins for Charles Clay. In the 2015 draft, he got 3 starters out of a measly 6 picks, (CB Darby, OG Miller, RB Karlos) none of whom were a 1st-rounder. He cut a grousing superstar in Mario Williams, but re-signed speed rusher Jerry Hughes, extended Kyle Williams and Corbin Bryant, claimed Enemkpali, and signed T.J. Barnes (6'6", 364 lbs) to free Dareus to move to 5-tech. The draft will bring in a power rusher and another inside guy for depth. He added depth on offense, including Touchdown Mike Gillislee, James Wilder Jr at RB, and WRs Hankerson, Salas, Little, and solid OC/OG Velasco, He added depth on defense, including D-Linemen Edwards, Valles, and Reed, WILB Zach Brown, LB Lorenzo Alexander, CB Sterling Moore, CB Corey White, and S Colt Anderson. He extended Gilmore for a year to ensure he's fully recovered before signing him long-term, he signed vet DB Javier Arenas for a 1-year term as insurance, and extended CB Mario Butler. He had all picks signed by training camp last year. He made unpopular but necessary cuts (FredEx whose numbers had declined for 3 years, Chandler, Boobie Dixon). He dealt with 22 different injuries to starters in 2015 (Watkins, Harvin, McCoy, Karlos, Aaron Williams, Cierre Wood, Goodwin, Deonte Thompson, etc.). He franchised LT Cordy Glenn while they work on Glenn-Gilmore contracts in a more cap-friendly year. We're about to experience Whaley's ability once again to make the Bills better. Watch for a trade, a "WTF" pick that makes sense later on, passing on "your guy" that got all the buzz and picking a guy we didn't discuss, and a pick at an already-deep position that pans out yet again. All Hail Doug Whaley! Edited April 28, 2016 by Astrobot
Nanker Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Yeah, but he whiffed in not taking Brady in the 6th Round! Seriously, he's the best we've had here in a long time, and maybe ever. Go Bills!
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Appreciate the post, but why the plaudits for John Miller, who was by most accounts one of the worst guards in the entire NFL last year? Starting shouldn't be a benchmark; competence should be. Otherwise, we should have been celebrating Terrence Pennington. Edited April 28, 2016 by dave mcbride
birdog1960 Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 just win...then we can congratulate him. all the rest is window dressing.
papazoid Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Whaley is not bad and not great..... so far, he is mediocre.
D521646 Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Yeah I have no complaints with DW, none. Now if he could just trade McCoy and Gilmore to the Browns for the 8th pick, and their second and a 6th, I'd be happy. Tim-
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 just win...then we can congratulate him. all the rest is window dressing. The record of the team in the 2 seasons following full Whaley off-seasons is above .500.
papazoid Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) USA Today ranked Whaley 24th best....not good enough http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/ranking-2016-nfl-general-managers Edited April 28, 2016 by papazoid
machine gun kelly Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 I look at Whaley as above average, not great, and not bad. I am looking forward to his choices these next three days.
Fadingpain Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 I trust Doug Whaley more than most, and know he'll do the best for the Bills tonight, tomorrow, Saturday, and down the road. Here's the context for Draft Day. Over 2 years, Whaley has improved Bills coaching, with Greg Roman, Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan, and newbie Pro Bowler Ed Reed. His best coach signings may be veterans John Blake the new DL Coach and David Lee the Quarterback Whisperer. He scooped up a mobile quarterback in Tyrod, re-signed a Pro Bowl LG Incognito, traded for Top 3 RB Shady McCoy, outbid rival Fins for Charles Clay. In the 2015 draft, he got 3 starters out of a measly 6 picks, (CB Darby, OG Miller, RB Karlos) none of whom were a 1st-rounder. He cut a grousing superstar in Mario Williams, but re-signed speed rusher Jerry Hughes, extended Kyle Williams and Corbin Bryant, claimed Enemkpali, and signed T.J. Barnes (6'6", 364 lbs) to free Dareus to move to 5-tech. The draft will bring in a power rusher and another inside guy for depth. He added depth on offense, including Touchdown Mike Gillislee, James Wilder Jr at RB, and WRs Hankerson, Salas, Little, and solid OC/OG Velasco, He added depth on defense, including D-Linemen Edwards, Valles, and Reed, WILB Zach Brown, LB Lorenzo Alexander, CB Sterling Moore, CB Corey White, and S Colt Anderson. He extended Gilmore for a year to ensure he's fully recovered before signing him long-term, he signed vet DB Javier Arenas for a 1-year term as insurance, and extended CB Mario Butler. He had all picks signed by training camp last year. He made unpopular but necessary cuts (FredEx whose numbers had declined for 3 years, Chandler, Boobie Dixon). He dealt with 22 different injuries to starters in 2015 (Watkins, Harvin, McCoy, Karlos, Aaron Williams, Cierre Wood, Goodwin, Deonte Thompson, etc.). He franchised LT Cordy Glenn while they work on Glenn-Gilmore contracts in a more cap-friendly year. We're about to experience Whaley's ability once again to make the Bills better. Watch for a trade, a "WTF" pick that makes sense later on, passing on "your guy" that got all the buzz and picking a guy we didn't discuss, and a pick at an already-deep position that pans out yet again. All Hail Doug Whaley! Doug? Is that you? You should be focusing on the draft now.
birdog1960 Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 The record of the team in the 2 seasons following full Whaley off-seasons is above .500. thrilling! let's revise it to," let's wait til were widely considered a good team" before congratulating him.
papazoid Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 RotoWorld ranks Whaley 17th best....mediocre http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/61907/57/nfls-best-gms-2016?pg=2
eball Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Thanks for the optimism, Astro...it is sorely needed among what is largely a "whoa is me" crowd.
shane nelson Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 you are what your record says you are..........................but we do appear to be headed in a better direction than we were Buddy-weiser
Gugny Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Hopefully, people will take this seriously coming from you, Astro. I think Whaley has been nearly perfect since his arrival. In fact, the two three worst additions, in my opinion, had nothing to do with him. Indeed, all hail Whaley. indeed. Edited April 28, 2016 by Gugny
hondo in seattle Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 I look at Whaley as above average, not great, and not bad. I am looking forward to his choices these next three days. Agreed. I tend to see DW as an average GM in a very competitive field. Hence our 8-8 record last year. I'm hoping though that he continues to learn and grow.
first_and_ten Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) ranked 24th best....not good enough http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/ranking-2016-nfl-general-managers Wow, Steven Ruiz ranked him 24th best...a true expert. It must be correct Edited April 28, 2016 by first_and_ten
nucci Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 RotoWorld ranks Whaley 17th best....mediocre http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/61907/57/nfls-best-gms-2016?pg=2 well, if Rotoworld says it......it must be true
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