26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2016 Author Posted April 28, 2016 @NFL_CFB Myles Jack: I could have microfracture surgery, "would understand if I fell" in draft --> http://on.nfl.com/26xtpE4
YattaOkasan Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Jesus could he really fall to 19? I'm sacrificing goats hoping he does.
John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 I'm sacrificing goats hoping he does. Stay away from my goats!
YattaOkasan Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Stay away from my goats! I'll take your virgins instead....?
John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 I'll take your virgins instead....? You would have an easier time finding the goats
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 I'll take your virgins instead....? Sadly we know johns goats are not that.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2016 Author Posted April 28, 2016 Mayock just said he could very well see Jack sliding beynod Oakland's pick at #14.
John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Sadly we know johns goats are not that. so.....what are you trying to say?
3rdand12 Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Sometimes I think we overthink things in this week leading into the draft. Don't get tooooo sucked into the soap opera, this is still primarily a medical decision. That paranoid GM probably had him off the board yesterday too. For anyone that was going to take him it's still a medical decision. I don't think many (any?) teams pulled his name off the board after seeing that. That was the Giants i think, gun shy after Beason's troubles
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) If Whaley thinks he can play for even 3 years he will pull the trigger if he's there IMO. Don't foresee a trade up though. Edited April 28, 2016 by YoloinOhio
CommonCents Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 That was the Giants i think, gun shy after Beason's troubles They are paying big money to JPP who is as medically damaged as anyone in the league, the Giants passing on him is at least an eye opener for me. The red flags are up all over the place now.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2016 Author Posted April 28, 2016 @RapSheet #UCLA LB Myles Jack likely falls past 10, but he does have landing spots in the teens. #Dolphins doing work on him, #Raiders worked him out
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Miami was comfortable taking Ajayi last year who has similar knee issue, but that was of course in the 5th. But, he was never a 1st rounder to begin with. At least they are familiar with the situation though.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 @RapSheet #UCLA LB Myles Jack likely falls past 10, but he does have landing spots in the teens. #Dolphins doing work on him, #Raiders worked him out I still hope Jack falls somehow to us, but it'd be fun to watch him play with Mack for 3 years.
P51 Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Jesus could he really fall to 19? Yes, maybe further, maybe not. Microfracture surgery is no joke, and many never come back from it, especially in the NBA for what its worth from what I remember. Torn Meniscus aside, this is a bigger deal IMO than many on this board are taking it, micro fracture surgery is a short term option, long term prognosis is usually not good if my memory serves me. Da'Quan Bowers fell like a rock in his draft partially over similar concerns with microfracture surgery, Clowney has not fully come back from it and may never, Terrell Davis could not, Bruce Smith did. They say the success rate is 75-80% but that means they played again, not necessarily at 100%, and not for a long time, the surgery itself usually results in shorter careers if they return at all. Its a surgery that does not actually fix the problem in a way that returns the knee to its pre-injury state. This is a concerning paragraph from 1 article (http://www.drdavidgeier.com/jadeveon-clowney-microfracture-surgery/) I found on it with a quick search, that echo's thoughts I have heard/read from doctors before: For small cartilage defects, microfracture is thought to have reasonable short-term success. Dr. Richard Steadman, who pioneered the surgery, found that 76% of the NFL players in whom he performed microfracture returned to play the following season. The long-term results after microfracture surgery are more concerning. A study of 24 NBA players who underwent the procedure showed that only 58.3% returned to play for more than one season after the surgery. Performance suffered greatly after players returned, with average points, rebounds, assists and minutes played dropping after microfracture. And one third of the players never returned play at all. For what its worth... Edited April 29, 2016 by P51
P51 Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Miami was comfortable taking Ajayi last year who has similar knee issue, but that was of course in the 5th. But, he was never a 1st rounder to begin with. At least they are familiar with the situation though. Mayock and numerous others had a 2nd-3rd rounder pre-knee issue. The knee caused helped him to drop IMO, he was widely viewed as a 3 down RB early in the process.
ddaryl Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Sadly we know johns goats are not that. his virgins are transgendered so I hear, so that's out too
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