Brady suspension reinstated!

[ExiledInIllinois]

The problem starts w/Kraft. Rotten roots, rotten fruit.

That's pretty funny! I wonder if they'll all be selling their Pats* hats for a nickle when he retires.

They will all be driving to Baltimore to watch games... Time to give up the Pats** & be fans of another team (again).

[26CornerBlitz]

Not easy in these trying times.

and to think i was foolish enough to consider the curse finally lifted.

aaarrgghh

 

 

it will be when Pegula cleans house.

 

The last two seasons have yielded a 17-15 record. If they are what you consider trying times, then you don't know Bills' football history.

[Beerball]

 

Know, actually what I find funny, really, is your inability to read and comprehend what I actually write and state plainly in simple English.

 

See, in your world, and posters such as yourself, everything's boolean in nature. Good [grunt] ... Bad! [groan]

 

I view things on a sliding scale, a continuous one. And simply because I've stated that Brady's the reason for the Pats success, uhhhh, essentially when he's been on the field and not otherwise much less under any other team that BB has fielded, in your and other posters minds for some bizarre reason that seems to translate to some absurd notion that what I actually wrote, which appears nowhere anywhere, least of all not in this thread, is that BB sucks or something akin to that, that he's a "bad" coach, etc.

 

Clearly I've not said that but your approach has me shagging polemical balls that I never asked to have to field.

 

Other posters have clearly gotten it based on what I actually wrote, but not you, you're [apparently] a little to quick for that.

 

Then others float things about Walsh as if Walsh has a similar history despite the fact that he doesn't. Again, is this good intellectual content? I don't think so. To me it's a waste of time like so much here.

 

Anyway, I've not omitted anything in this discussion although I have mentioned possible cheating on the part of BB to assist him through the playoffs and to his first few SBs, which we don't know, but this also shouldn't be news to you and I'd love to see you start a thread here saying that you don't think that cheating assisted his Pats in anyway and let's see what the response is.

 

OTOH, you continue to ignore facts and refuse to consider any other possible angle, which is all I've done here, pose a possibility, that's all. Meanwhile, your mundane repetitive limited opinions apart from any real facts or substance to substantiate them keep reappearing as if you're operating under the notion that if something is repeated often enough it finally becomes the truth.

 

If when Brady retires BB continues to make the playoffs and win games therein then you'll end up being more correct than not. Until then ...

 

But the fact of the matter is that BB's teams apart from Brady have been no better than Jauron's, whose playoff team frankly was better than BB's.

 

There are other data points as well suggesting that BB is overrated, such as Coughlin entirely owning him in the most important games of their careers, and that includes Coughlin on two different teams as well. Harbaugh with a much lesser talented Ravens team also has outperformed BB's Pats on average as well. This has contributed to BB's winning only one SB after he was discovered cheating, despite having been the perennial preseason favorite to win the SB every single season since then.

 

I realize that you choose to ignore all that, which is what you are doing and which is fine, but it's wrong to throw up things that I didn't say as if I did.

grunt

[Beerball]

@JasonColeBR

Statement from #Patriots owner Bob Kraft on Tom Brady's decision on deflategate

 

 

I know, me too.

[3rdand12]

 

 

The last two seasons have yielded a 17-15 record. If they are what you consider trying times, then you don't know Bills' football history.

I meant the last 16 years

[Saxum]

Poor little Tommy losing $250,000 for missing 4 games (he gets paid only $1M for this year); it appears the true reason for appeals was to move salary to other years and have him lose as little as possible. How is he going to feed his children?

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tom-brady-made-a-brilliant-move-that-will-save-him-millions-while-hes-out/

[Augie]

The last two seasons have yielded a 17-15 record. If they are what you consider trying times, then you don't know Bills' football history.

After I got married the Bills went 2-14 in back to back seasons. My wife was concerned on just so many levels and asked me "why do you do this to yourself?". She learned to take the dogs and later the kids for 3 hour walks on Sunday's. I'm much better now, but that's all relative.

P.S. - If we had a poll for favorite thread ever, this would probably rank pretty highly.

[DC Tom]

@salsports

Reminder: Brady allowed to participate in camp and preseason games, but not allowed to have contact with team once reg season begins...

 

So we already know one way they're going to cheat...

[4merper4mer]

 

 

It's the NFLPA

 

 

Whatever Mr. Pat defender.

 

Kraft is a low class drunk with a podium. Did he help this commish in the last CBA because he thought the rules would only be enforced against other teams? There was a precedent for the Pats* being above the law after all. WTF due process is he even talking about? That has nothing to do with the botched CBA that he negotiated. He is a complete and total drunken buffoon who bought the team with his wife's money. He may not have paid Brady's legal bills but he is currently trying to run the commish out of town on a rail for not being a servant. Brady is a player, not a legend. He should be and has been treated like everyone else. He is the Barry Bonds of football and that's that. He is very talented but nobody will ever know for sure whether to believe his record because he cheated. Bonds never even got caught really but Brady has been caught twice. No amount of meddling from his stupid fat alkie owner is going to change that. He may in fact get a new commish in that will cow tow to the large markets but he doesn't have one now.

 

Kraft, who wouldn't have been able to buy a NE team if Ralph hadn't saved it, tried to help his friend Bon Jersey buy OUR team and move it to Toronto and you still defend him over and over...but you're a Bills fan. Right.

 

The punishment Brady got was exactly in line with the CBA that Kraft negotiated and had his buddies at ESPN mock Ralph over when Ralph objected. It is possible that Kraft was too liquored up to remember what he put in there.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

That's pretty funny! I wonder if they'll all be selling their Pats* hats for a nickle when he retires.

 

hopefully!

I apologize is if this has been said already, i haven't read all the posts. I think it's the smartest move the Pats** could make for the upcoming season.

 

Even if they start 0-4, Brady will still be the same as always after serving a 4 game suspension or not. They are counting on him to come in, most likely with a chip on his shoulder, and play catch up and still win the division. Which hasn't been an issue pretty much his entire career. Their arrogance is what will motivate them most. Imagine them making a run and getting into the postseason and possibly the super bowl, what a slap into the face of Goodell and the NFL.

 

Don't get me wrong here, I can't stand the Pats**. That's just how I see the behind the scenes conversationso went. Plus I'm sure Kraft is $taking$ care of Brady other ways during his suspension.

 

Again, I apologize if this or something similar to this post has been stated already. Just my opinion of course.

 

they started out fast last year and faded a bit at the end, it might be the opposite this yr.

Poor little Tommy losing $250,000 for missing 4 games (he gets paid only $1M for this year); it appears the true reason for appeals was to move salary to other years and have him lose as little as possible. How is he going to feed his children?

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tom-brady-made-a-brilliant-move-that-will-save-him-millions-while-hes-out/

 

can't blame him, I'd do the same thing.

[Mr. WEO]

 

 

Whatever Mr. Pat defender.

 

Kraft is a low class drunk with a podium. Did he help this commish in the last CBA because he thought the rules would only be enforced against other teams? There was a precedent for the Pats* being above the law after all. WTF due process is he even talking about? That has nothing to do with the botched CBA that he negotiated. He is a complete and total drunken buffoon who bought the team with his wife's money. He may not have paid Brady's legal bills but he is currently trying to run the commish out of town on a rail for not being a servant. Brady is a player, not a legend. He should be and has been treated like everyone else. He is the Barry Bonds of football and that's that. He is very talented but nobody will ever know for sure whether to believe his record because he cheated. Bonds never even got caught really but Brady has been caught twice. No amount of meddling from his stupid fat alkie owner is going to change that. He may in fact get a new commish in that will cow tow to the large markets but he doesn't have one now.

 

Kraft, who wouldn't have been able to buy a NE team if Ralph hadn't saved it, tried to help his friend Bon Jersey buy OUR team and move it to Toronto and you still defend him over and over...but you're a Bills fan. Right.

 

The punishment Brady got was exactly in line with the CBA that Kraft negotiated and had his buddies at ESPN mock Ralph over when Ralph objected. It is possible that Kraft was too liquored up to remember what he put in there.

 

Maybe Kraft was hoping Brady would get the same treatment as the Saints got when multiple players were righteously suspended for a bounty program ("exactly in line with the CBA"). When an arbitrator overturned the suspensions, the league simply suspended them again. Finally Tagliabu, after declaring the players guilty of bounty hunting and obstruction (Hargrove lied directly to Goodall), vacated the suspensions anyway. That seems like special treatment, no?

 

The due process he mentioned likely included the fact that Brady was not allowed to question the actual author of the "Independent Wells Report" in his appeal.

 

I know appearing as not being very bright is your schtick, but it's ever more clear it's actually the case.

[4merper4mer]

 

Maybe Kraft was hoping Brady would get the same treatment as the Saints got when multiple players were righteously suspended for a bounty program ("exactly in line with the CBA"). When an arbitrator overturned the suspensions, the league simply suspended them again. Finally Tagliabu, after declaring the players guilty of bounty hunting and obstruction (Hargrove lied directly to Goodall), vacated the suspensions anyway. That seems like special treatment, no?

 

The due process he mentioned likely included the fact that Brady was not allowed to question the actual author of the "Independent Wells Report" in his appeal.

 

I know appearing as not being very bright is your schtick, but it's ever more clear it's actually the case.

 

 

Go to a Pats board. It's pathetic. I don't appear bright? Due process has nothing to do with the CBA. Do you get that? Even if we all twist logic on its head and think that the rules of the US Constitution apply to the inner workings of the NFL the courts still ruled in the NFL's favor. Even someone with a BAC as consistently high as Kraft's has to see he should either direct his ire at the courts or nowhere. The courts determining that Goodell had the authority means Kraft shouldn't drunkenly rant about Goodell. He didn't have to give Brady anything more or less than what he gave him in terms of a forum on made up crap to try to get off. Obfuscating by bringing up an imagined right to cross examine an investigator is ridiculous.

 

The fact of the matter, as confirmed by the US court system, is that in both the Brady and Saints situation the commish can do whatever he wants. Kraft helped bargain for that right. Again he was probably liquored up so he may have a case of it being an invalid agreement, but he should not whine. Is it possible that Brady and the Pats got punished more harshly because Goodell was pissed that they cheated again after he helped them the last time? Maybe he was pissed that Brady got rid of his phone or that they were openly joking about cheating again by giving a guy "the deflator" as a nickname. In the end it doesn't matter. He can do what he wants. He could suspend Rex tomorrow for running an antiquated scheme and it might be unfair but so what?

 

Can the owners fire him? Yup. I don't see the other 31 owners rushing to the defense of a known dirty team but it might happen and is within the owners rights. I guess we'll see. But your favorite player will forever have an asterisk next to his name because he has been caught cheating twice now.

 

And i don't think it makes you look too bright coming on to a Bills board to taunt Bills fans about everything. Look, your Pats have done a lot of winning and not all of it has been cheating. That is one thing. Poke fun at the Bills for that. But to not recognize the damage their boozing owner tried to do to our team in openly trying to help move them away, or worse, to not acknowledge it, is classless. I think you're smart enough to see what Kraft was trying to do when Ralph died, but you act as if you're ignorant of it. When the Pats 5-11 again you can go back to rooting for the Sox while Kraft or the new owner threatens a move to Hartford that most of the "fan base" doesn't care about. The Bills fans do care about staying in Buffalo and got very lucky to not get the process steamrolled on them by Kraft and others thanks to the Pegulas.

[Saxum]

can't blame him, I'd do the same thing.

 

This should be another rule they change due to cheating P*ts - fines are based on maximum of what you were being paid at time of error and current game checks; you should not be able to revamp with signing bonus to get reduce fines.

[Rocky Landing]

Whatever Mr. Pat defender.

I know appearing as not being very bright is your schtick, but it's ever more clear it's actually the case.

Battling personality disorders...

[Mr. WEO]

 

 

Go to a Pats board. It's pathetic. I don't appear bright? Due process has nothing to do with the CBA. Do you get that? Even if we all twist logic on its head and think that the rules of the US Constitution apply to the inner workings of the NFL the courts still ruled in the NFL's favor. Even someone with a BAC as consistently high as Kraft's has to see he should either direct his ire at the courts or nowhere. The courts determining that Goodell had the authority means Kraft shouldn't drunkenly rant about Goodell. He didn't have to give Brady anything more or less than what he gave him in terms of a forum on made up crap to try to get off. Obfuscating by bringing up an imagined right to cross examine an investigator is ridiculous.

 

The fact of the matter, as confirmed by the US court system, is that in both the Brady and Saints situation the commish can do whatever he wants. Kraft helped bargain for that right. Again he was probably liquored up so he may have a case of it being an invalid agreement, but he should not whine. Is it possible that Brady and the Pats got punished more harshly because Goodell was pissed that they cheated again after he helped them the last time? Maybe he was pissed that Brady got rid of his phone or that they were openly joking about cheating again by giving a guy "the deflator" as a nickname. In the end it doesn't matter. He can do what he wants. He could suspend Rex tomorrow for running an antiquated scheme and it might be unfair but so what?

 

Can the owners fire him? Yup. I don't see the other 31 owners rushing to the defense of a known dirty team but it might happen and is within the owners rights. I guess we'll see. But your favorite player will forever have an asterisk next to his name because he has been caught cheating twice now.

 

And i don't think it makes you look too bright coming on to a Bills board to taunt Bills fans about everything. Look, your Pats have done a lot of winning and not all of it has been cheating. That is one thing. Poke fun at the Bills for that. But to not recognize the damage their boozing owner tried to do to our team in openly trying to help move them away, or worse, to not acknowledge it, is classless. I think you're smart enough to see what Kraft was trying to do when Ralph died, but you act as if you're ignorant of it. When the Pats 5-11 again you can go back to rooting for the Sox while Kraft or the new owner threatens a move to Hartford that most of the "fan base" doesn't care about. The Bills fans do care about staying in Buffalo and got very lucky to not get the process steamrolled on them by Kraft and others thanks to the Pegulas.

 

 

I was tempted not to read past the nuttiness of the bolded statement...but I just couldn't look away....like witnessing a natural disaster.

 

And I was rewarded with the usual paranoid ranting. I usually don't respond to your stuff because I used to be convinced it was just made up--like Crayonz. But now this obviously how your thought process works. I kind of feel bad responding...all most like a kid poking an animal with a stick.

 

But anyway...keep fighting the good fight!. Andrew Luck sucks!!

[4merper4mer]

 

 

I was tempted not to read past the nuttiness of the bolded statement...but I just couldn't look away....like witnessing a natural disaster.

 

And I was rewarded with the usual paranoid ranting. I usually don't respond to your stuff because I used to be convinced it was just made up--like Crayonz. But now this obviously how your thought process works. I kind of feel bad responding...all most like a kid poking an animal with a stick.

 

But anyway...keep fighting the good fight!. Andrew Luck sucks!!

 

 

LOL. Is that you're way of giving up?

 

Mock a statement but don't defend your indefensible side of it? Let's make this simple: What does due process have to do with the CBA?

 

Hint: Anything you write will look silly because due process has nothing to do with the CBA.

 

 

It seems you're butthurt that the Bills got to stay in Buffalo and Kraft/Bon Jersey did not get their way. As a Pats fan, why does that matter to you? That's the part I don't get. Look, you can love the Pats all you want. That's fine. I get that you'd try to look away from all their obvious transgressions. It's what fans do. But why keep ignoring Kraft's non-Pats related stuff? Are you more a Kraft fan than a Pats fan? Does it bother you that he can't impose his will on our team and the commish?

Edited July 18, 2016 by 4merper4mer

[Mr. WEO]

 

 

LOL. Is that you're way of giving up?

 

Mock a statement but don't defend your indefensible side of it? Let's make this simple: What does due process have to do with the CBA?

 

Hint: Anything you write will look silly because due process has nothing to do with the CBA.

 

 

It seems you're butthurt that the Bills got to stay in Buffalo and Kraft/Bon Jersey did not get their way. As a Pats fan, why does that matter to you? That's the part I don't get. Look, you can love the Pats all you want. That's fine. I get that you'd try to look away from all their obvious transgressions. It's what fans do. But why keep ignoring Kraft's non-Pats related stuff? Are you more a Kraft fan than a Pats fan? Does it bother you that he can't impose his will on our team and the commish?

 

The CBA does require players to surrender some commonly applied due process, but it doesn't eliminate it. They have a right to appeal to an impartial arbitrator. Clearly Goodell proved he was not in this case. Judge Berman rules as he did citing Brady's not being able to review the investigative notes gathered against him or interview the co-investigator who created them.

 

I used the Bountygate example because for one, it was a case where Goodell's unquestioned power to punish was reversed. Second, the guy who reversed, Tagliabu did so because he felt you couldn't suspend a player just because you think he lied to you:

 

“There is no evidence of a record of past suspensions based purely on obstructing a League investigation. In my forty years of association with the NFL, I am aware of many instances of denials in disciplinary proceedings that proved to be false, but I cannot recall any suspension for such fabrication.”

 

He also mentioned specifically: "“In December 2010, the NFL fined Brett Favre $50,000 — but did not suspend him — for obstruction of a League sexual harassment investigation. Although not entirely comparable to the present matter, this illustrates the NFL’s practice of fining, not suspending players, for serious violations of this type.”

 

See? Precedent has clearly shown Goodell's power is checked (his poor record with suspensions being reduced should have already shown you this).

 

Look, I know you don't really understand what this federal case was actually about and your best stuff is going on and on about some paranoid fantasy of Kraft moving the Bills to Toronto (you might want to look that up), but you should have someone read your stuff before you hit "post".

 

I've said before Brady was guilty as charged. You pretend otherwise. Giving up? I don't know--does the cat get tired of batting around the ball of string? Probably...

[Tuco]

 

The CBA does require players to surrender some commonly applied due process, but it doesn't eliminate it. They have a right to appeal to an impartial arbitrator. Clearly Goodell proved he was not in this case. Judge Berman rules as he did citing Brady's not being able to review the investigative notes gathered against him or interview the co-investigator who created them.

 

I used the Bountygate example because for one, it was a case where Goodell's unquestioned power to punish was reversed. Second, the guy who reversed, Tagliabu did so because he felt you couldn't suspend a player just because you think he lied to you:

 

“There is no evidence of a record of past suspensions based purely on obstructing a League investigation. In my forty years of association with the NFL, I am aware of many instances of denials in disciplinary proceedings that proved to be false, but I cannot recall any suspension for such fabrication.”

 

He also mentioned specifically: "“In December 2010, the NFL fined Brett Favre $50,000 — but did not suspend him — for obstruction of a League sexual harassment investigation. Although not entirely comparable to the present matter, this illustrates the NFL’s practice of fining, not suspending players, for serious violations of this type.”

 

See? Precedent has clearly shown Goodell's power is checked (his poor record with suspensions being reduced should have already shown you this).

 

Look, I know you don't really understand what this federal case was actually about and your best stuff is going on and on about some paranoid fantasy of Kraft moving the Bills to Toronto (you might want to look that up), but you should have someone read your stuff before you hit "post".

 

I've said before Brady was guilty as charged. You pretend otherwise. Giving up? I don't know--does the cat get tired of batting around the ball of string? Probably...

 

What the Saints did went against player safety and was immoral. But it was not cheating. What Favre did was reprehensible, but it was not cheating. Both of these act are considered detrimental to integrity of the league.

 

Brady cheated. His act was one of conspiracy to undermine the rules of the game in order to gain an advantage in the game. His act was determined to be detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football. The CBA clearly states that in matters of discipline regarding integrity of, or confidence in, the game of professional football, the commissioner may serve as the hearing officer in any appeal under said section at his discretion.

 

The NFLPA agreed to it, and the court has ruled it as valid.

Edited July 18, 2016 by Tuco

[4merper4mer]

 

What the Saints did went against player safety and was immoral. But it was not cheating. What Favre did was reprehensible, but it was not cheating. Both of these act are considered detrimental to integrity of the league.

 

Brady cheated. His act was one of conspiracy to undermine the rules of the game in order to gain an advantage in the game. His act was determined to be detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football. The CBA clearly states that in matters of discipline regarding integrity of, or confidence in, the game of professional football, the commissioner may serve as the hearing officer in any appeal under said section.

 

The NFLPA agreed to it, and the court has ruled it as valid.

 

 

Favre is a perv but didn't cheat. I considered the Saints thing cheating myself although there is probably a technical argument that it wasn't. To me, if you take something away from another team, like its star player, with intent, that is cheating. It is at the very least against the spirit of the law.

 

Mr. Patsfan tries to cloud the issues when he argues about judge Berman, a known Kraft party-goer, who erroneously ruled in favor of Brady. Berman's decision was corrected by a higher court and that correction was confirmed when Brady's appeal attempt again failed. Still he sides with Kraft in railing against Goodell. Goodell had nothing to do with the court's decision, the judges did. Berman made a mistake and it was corrected. End of story. If Pats fans think the courts made a mistake then complain about the courts, not Goodell. Instead he rails about Goodell's decisions. It is weird. Weirder still is Kraft's whining. He helped set up the system and then he whines about it. Maybe he thought it would only be used to help him since he had Goodell in his back pocket. Sorry Boozy, the tables turned.

 

He says others don't know what the Federal case was about yet his is the player that lost the Federal case and his team's owner that is whining about it.

 

The most annoying part of his post is where he he perpetuates Kraft's lies about not wanting the Bills to move. Did he believe Bon Jersey's obviously misleading letter about that too? It is very easy to figure out Kraft's motives....$$$$$$$$$$$$.......which I suppose is fine, but to not be able to see through his lies because he looks like an affable goofball........or to know Kraft is lying but go on a division rival's web site and claim otherwise......is ridiculous. Mock the losses we have against NE....that is fair game....but why isn't it ok for us to be fans of the BUFFALO Bills? It's not a paranoid fantasy at all that Kraft wanted the Bills to move. It is simply reality, even if Kraft chose to lie about it so he could keep up his affable goofball persona.

[Mr. WEO]

 

What the Saints did went against player safety and was immoral. But it was not cheating. What Favre did was reprehensible, but it was not cheating. Both of these act are considered detrimental to integrity of the league.

 

Brady cheated. His act was one of conspiracy to undermine the rules of the game in order to gain an advantage in the game. His act was determined to be detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football. The CBA clearly states that in matters of discipline regarding integrity of, or confidence in, the game of professional football, the commissioner may serve as the hearing officer in any appeal under said section.

 

The NFLPA agreed to it, and the court has ruled it as valid.

 

As even 4merper4mer was able to figure out. The whole point of the bounty system was to take out key players to improve odds of winning. You weren't sure about that?

 

You are aonther one who is clueless about what the federal appeals were about. No one was arguing whether Goodell has the right to serve as the hearing officer in an appeal. Obviously they were arguing that he did not act as a nonbiased arbitrator and that the penalty was not consistent with other such penalties.

 

 

 

 

 

Favre is a perv but didn't cheat. I considered the Saints thing cheating myself although there is probably a technical argument that it wasn't. To me, if you take something away from another team, like its star player, with intent, that is cheating. It is at the very least against the spirit of the law.

 

Mr. Patsfan tries to cloud the issues when he argues about judge Berman, a known Kraft party-goer, who erroneously ruled in favor of Brady. Berman's decision was corrected by a higher court and that correction was confirmed when Brady's appeal attempt again failed. Still he sides with Kraft in railing against Goodell. Goodell had nothing to do with the court's decision, the judges did. Berman made a mistake and it was corrected. End of story. If Pats fans think the courts made a mistake then complain about the courts, not Goodell. Instead he rails about Goodell's decisions. It is weird. Weirder still is Kraft's whining. He helped set up the system and then he whines about it. Maybe he thought it would only be used to help him since he had Goodell in his back pocket. Sorry Boozy, the tables turned.

 

He says others don't know what the Federal case was about yet his is the player that lost the Federal case and his team's owner that is whining about it.

 

The most annoying part of his post is where he he perpetuates Kraft's lies about not wanting the Bills to move. Did he believe Bon Jersey's obviously misleading letter about that too? It is very easy to figure out Kraft's motives....$$$$$$$$$$$$.......which I suppose is fine, but to not be able to see through his lies because he looks like an affable goofball........or to know Kraft is lying but go on a division rival's web site and claim otherwise......is ridiculous. Mock the losses we have against NE....that is fair game....but why isn't it ok for us to be fans of the BUFFALO Bills? It's not a paranoid fantasy at all that Kraft wanted the Bills to move. It is simply reality, even if Kraft chose to lie about it so he could keep up his affable goofball persona.

 

Pointing out why you are wrong isn't "defending Kraft", nor is pointing out why he felt his team should deserve the same treatment that the Saints got from the NFL. You can't explain why that case ended the way it did--with Tagliabu saying that the league cannot suspend a player for obstructing an investigation into player activities/violations, and why this case ended differently.

 

The Bills were never going to Toronto. Yeah, Bon Jovi was so intent on moving the team that he tried to bail on his "Toronto group" and hook up with "the Jim Kelly group" at the last minute. Yet after repeated assurances that they would move the team the Toronto group was allowed to re-bid. The trust also had a hand, obviously, in playing the rumors of a move in order to keep the bidding up. If they really thought the winnig bidder might move the team, there is no way they would let them continue bidding.

 

You should strive to become and "affable" goofball...