Malazan Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 NFLPA leaders depended too much on getting in court what they could not get on bargaining floor. If I was a NFL player who was not making multi-millions per year and was not getting in trouble I'd be looking for other like players and try to split from union offer to renegotiate contract with more emphasis on issues even if it meant I'd be spending more time with team in study sessions, training, etc. In time the undesirables would be cut off from their support and those making multi-millions per year and not constantly being suspended, etc would realize they were paying for association with trouble makers. The NFLPA (Demaurice Smith) went into the CBA thinking he could just negotiate on money and get everything else by going to court. The players got reamed, but they elected him again afterwards so they got what they deserved.
Augie Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 The NFLPA (Demaurice Smith) went into the CBA thinking he could just negotiate on money and get everything else by going to court. The players got reamed, but they elected him again afterwards so they got what they deserved. If I were a betting guy, I'd say 99% of players will take the money. Careers are short, and the dollars are big - for a while. It's an even shorter window for bone heads. They will vote for top dollar, then try to litigate anything else they might wring out of the big money pool. The CBA is like player contracts....get as many guaranteed dollars as possible. The rest is gravy.
bbb Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 All I had to do was read the CBA to learn that. Judge Berman should have done that...........But, he was too busy partying with Kraft!
papazoid Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 How? First, a request for rehearing (which must be filed if at all within 14 days) operates as an automatic stay of the suspension. It means that Brady, if a petition for rehearing is filed, would have his suspension held in abeyance until, at the earliest, the Second Circuit decides not to conduct a rehearing and, at the latest, until the rehearing is resolved with another ruling against Brady and the NFLPA. If the petition for rehearing is granted, a source with knowledge of the Second Circuit procedures tells PFT that it’s quite possible (if not likely) that Brady will be able to play the entire 2016 season, regardless of the outcome. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/25/brady-nflpa-should-definitely-pursue-a-rehearing-before-the-full-second-circuit/
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Nellie Drew: "Odds very small" for Brady Appeal (10:47)University at Buffalo sports law expert Nellie Drew joined The John Murphy Show to weigh-in on the Court of Appeals decision to reinstate the 4-game suspension for Patriots QB Tom Brady. Drew also discusses the odds against the players union for any appeal.
eball Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Am I the only one that feels a little nervous about this? Wouldn't this be the perfect motivation? Plus, he's 38 years old. So now, he gets an extra rest from game conditions. If they can go 3-1 or even 2-2 over this period, they get a rested, probably maniacally-obsessed-with-winning Brady back for game 5 on. I would expect Bellicheck to use this to motivate his team also. Now this is a typical response from a victim of Buffalo Sports Abuse Syndrome. Only a Bills fan could suggest that our biggest rival losing their best player for four games is something that makes him "nervous." Brilliant.
Wayne Cubed Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 First, a request for rehearing (which must be filed if at all within 14 days) operates as an automatic stay of the suspension. It means that Brady, if a petition for rehearing is filed, would have his suspension held in abeyance until, at the earliest, the Second Circuit decides not to conduct a rehearing and, at the latest, until the rehearing is resolved with another ruling against Brady and the NFLPA. If the petition for rehearing is granted, a source with knowledge of the Second Circuit procedures tells PFT that it’s quite possible (if not likely) that Brady will be able to play the entire 2016 season, regardless of the outcome. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/25/brady-nflpa-should-definitely-pursue-a-rehearing-before-the-full-second-circuit/ A lot of assumptions/speculations on Florios part there. Brady may get a stay if he requests a rehearing but a couple lawyers have weighed in and said his chances of getting a rehearing are very very slim. And they certainly don't think that SCOTUS is going to hear this case.
sodbuster Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Judge Berman should have done that...........But, he was too busy partying with Kraft! That's the best part about this. I keep seeing in Pats* fan forums about crooked judges, but they don't want to talk about Berman hanging out at la casa Kraft two days before the initial ruling.
MattM Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 A lot of assumptions/speculations on Florios part there. Brady may get a stay if he requests a rehearing but a couple lawyers have weighed in and said his chances of getting a rehearing are very very slim. And they certainly don't think that SCOTUS is going to hear this case. Par for the course for Florio. He looks for any pro-Pats* point in anything related to Deflategate, which is kind of odd since he was fairly evenhanded and rational on it until mid-May, when a switch seemed to be flipped and he went all-in on the Cheats*. It's almost like someone "talked to him" around that time....
Wayne Cubed Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Par for the course for Florio. He looks for any pro-Pats* point in anything related to Deflategate, which is kind of odd since he was fairly evenhanded and rational on it until mid-May, when a switch seemed to be flipped and he went all-in on the Cheats*. It's almost like someone "talked to him" around that time.... I noticed that too, it was really odd. He seemed to be supporting the commissioner and his position within the CBA and then did a complete 180.
gobillsinytown Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Now this is a typical response from a victim of Buffalo Sports Abuse Syndrome. Only a Bills fan could suggest that our biggest rival losing their best player for four games is something that makes him "nervous." Brilliant. You're right! But then again as some other people on the board have mentioned, Brady could still find a way to delay his suspension again. I looks like he could still appeal the ruling one more time. Maybe we all should learn some voodoo curses? Lol
sodbuster Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15355578/roger-goodell-nullify-tom-brady-new-england-patriots-deflategate-suspension-nfl Lol wut?
papazoid Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 A lot of assumptions/speculations on Florios part there. Brady may get a stay if he requests a rehearing but a couple lawyers have weighed in and said his chances of getting a rehearing are very very slim. And they certainly don't think that SCOTUS is going to hear this case. i'm not saying he will win. i'm saying he will keep delaying.
4merper4mer Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Nellie Drew: "Odds very small" for Brady Appeal (10:47) Can't believe she is still around. She solved all those mysteries as a kid then went underground. I guess being a lawyer fits. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15355578/roger-goodell-nullify-tom-brady-new-england-patriots-deflategate-suspension-nfl Lol wut? They guy left out how Goodell feels betrayed after burning all of those tapes the first time these jokers got caught cheating. I know they'll cheat again and probably already have....I wonder if they will get caught.
Nanker Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Boston Globe: Patriots and Brady brought this on themselves http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2016/04/25/patriots-brought-this-overpunishment-themselves/zEpsykTE1UJofIA7Y5YgNJ/story.html Now that right there is an excellent read. But I wonder what city Dan Shaughnessy will be moving to soon... real soon... for ah, "personal health" reasons.
chris heff Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Boston Globe: Patriots and Brady brought this on themselves http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2016/04/25/patriots-brought-this-overpunishment-themselves/zEpsykTE1UJofIA7Y5YgNJ/story.html I never understood why everyone didn't get this.
Captain Hindsight Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 He has another recourse - quit and take a stand; maybe he is so important the NFL will change rule if he does not come back The NFL is far bigger than any one player.
YoloinOhio Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 First, a request for rehearing (which must be filed if at all within 14 days) operates as an automatic stay of the suspension. It means that Brady, if a petition for rehearing is filed, would have his suspension held in abeyance until, at the earliest, the Second Circuit decides not to conduct a rehearing and, at the latest, until the rehearing is resolved with another ruling against Brady and the NFLPA. If the petition for rehearing is granted, a source with knowledge of the Second Circuit procedures tells PFT that its quite possible (if not likely) that Brady will be able to play the entire 2016 season, regardless of the outcome. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/25/brady-nflpa-should-definitely-pursue-a-rehearing-before-the-full-second-circuit/ @wallachlegalCA2 en banc stats (2000-2010): 8 cases out of a total of 27,856 completed appeals were reheard en banc (less than 3/100 of 1% of the cases) I don't know why it would take them so long to decide not to rehear it
Mr. WEO Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Now this is a typical response from a victim of Buffalo Sports Abuse Syndrome. Only a Bills fan could suggest that our biggest rival losing their best player for four games is something that makes him "nervous." Brilliant. The Bills went 0-2 against the Brady-less pats in 2008.
Wayne Cubed Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 @wallachlegal CA2 en banc stats (2000-2010): 8 cases out of a total of 27,856 completed appeals were reheard en banc (less than 3/100 of 1% of the cases) I don't know why it would take them so long to decide not to rehear it It wouldn't but Florio is on one, especially with tweets like this; @ProFootballTalk NFL can crow all it wants about Brady, but there was luck of the draw involved. Three judges from 22-judge panel. Narrow 2-1 win for league.
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