TallskiWallski83 Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Im not sure how many of you guys know of this excellent site, so I thought I would share. The site is run by a Bills/Sabres fan and he breaks down tons of All-22 footage, including many of the draft prospects for 2016. The analysis is very in depth and he breaks down why or why not each player would be a good candidate for the Bills to draft. Do yourself a favor and check it out. His stuff is seriously impressive.Home Page: http://www.cover1.net/Draft Page: http://www.cover1.net/category/nfl-draft-2016-prospects/ Edited April 24, 2016 by TallskiWallski83
TallskiWallski83 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Wow, not even one reply yay or nay? Edited April 24, 2016 by TallskiWallski83
Greybeard Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 Wow, not even one reply yay or nay? Patience grasshopper. Very good site. Wish I would have seen this during the season. Thanks.
starrymessenger Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 Wow, not even one reply yay or nay? Good stuff TW. Still going through it. Will revisit the site fo sho.
Blokestradamus Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 Follow the creator of the site on Twitter - @cover1eturner Been fun talking draft with Erik recently. Really nice guy, knows his stuff. Writes in an educational fashion, which is something I struggle to do myself.
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 His Dak Prescott writeup has me impressed...
JM57 Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 Nice guy based on my interactions with him, great write-ups. I'd read his stuff (or Rob Quinn's for that matter) a hundred times before the garbage ESPN churns out.
RyanTalbotBills Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Erik is a great person and very talented.
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Had a chance to look - really good stuff. I think his work analyzing some of Rex's defenses has been posted here before and it was really interesting.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Wow, not even one reply yay or nay? Non-controversial posts often draw some views but few responses. If you're getting views, people are likely checking it out but don't have much to say. Im not sure how many of you guys know of this excellent site, so I thought I would share. The site is run by a Bills/Sabres fan and he breaks down tons of All-22 footage, including many of the draft prospects for 2016. The analysis is very in depth and he breaks down why or why not each player would be a good candidate for the Bills to draft. Do yourself a favor and check it out. His stuff is seriously impressive. Home Page: http://www.cover1.net/ Draft Page: http://www.cover1.net/category/nfl-draft-2016-prospects/ OK, I had a look. Nice site and kudos to the guy running it for setting it up. My first sample was Paxton Lynch and here I found immediate food for disagreement. He characterizes Roman's offense as : "A simple passing scheme aimed at getting the ball to the play-makers, relying on those guys to move the chains. Tyrod had struggles in the passing game and fans labeled him a “one read and run” type QB. But if you go back and study the film, that issue wasn’t all on Tyrod, the system put him in those situations. You could say the same about Lynch, he often was asked to take one step, make one read which is why many scouts think he is still a couple years away. But that isn’t to say that he can’t scan the field. His height allows him to stand in the pocket and scan the field, unlike Tyrod who often had to leave the pocket." Now I don't know nuttin about college football, so I can't speak to what offense Lynch was or was not asked to run. But I think Roman's offense is much better characterized by Hogan in his quoted interview. There are usually several play options for the QB prior to the snap. I also watched a lot of all-22 and slomo condensed, and while I couldn't disagree that things broke down and Tyrod had to scramble at times, I disagree that's the system. There was usually an outlet receiver and a couple options, and Tyrod sometimes fixed on a guy and failed to see a better option developing, or failed to step up into the pocket and buy time to deliver. I'm blanking on who, but someone did a weekly all-22 last season that did a pretty good job of sorting this out. Also, one of Tyrod's strengths was a very pretty deep ball, which again is not relying on the playmakers to move the chains. If I have time tomorrow I'll check out his defensive stuff. Most of us are stronger on one or the other side of the ball. Edited April 25, 2016 by Hopeful
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Wow, not even one reply yay or nay? Do you want a cookie or something? Good site Edited April 25, 2016 by QuoteTheRaven83
TallskiWallski83 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 Do you want a cookie or something? Good site Cookie or handy would be great!
Fixxxer Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Wow, not even one reply yay or nay? I linked this site on the draft pre-visits thread, I agree, great site TW83
rquinn619 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Im not sure how many of you guys know of this excellent site, so I thought I would share. The site is run by a Bills/Sabres fan and he breaks down tons of All-22 footage, including many of the draft prospects for 2016. The analysis is very in depth and he breaks down why or why not each player would be a good candidate for the Bills to draft. Do yourself a favor and check it out. His stuff is seriously impressive. Home Page: http://www.cover1.net/ Draft Page: http://www.cover1.net/category/nfl-draft-2016-prospects/ Seconded. Erik is one of my favorite new follows on twitter, love chatting/debating with him. Dude knows his stuff and really puts the work in. Seconded. Erik is one of my favorite new follows on twitter, love chatting/debating with him. Dude knows his stuff and really puts the work in. P.S. being new to the message board, idk if I'm allowed to do this so delete it if I'm not, but i also do a lot of draft coverage, and if any of you are interested, I have about 60 scouting reports on Bills-centric prospects at BuildingTheHerd.com http://buildingtheherd.com/category/scout-team/scouting-reports/ Also, stumbling across this message board, I really appreciate you guys sharing some of my work. Looking forward to chatting with you all! Non-controversial posts often draw some views but few responses. If you're getting views, people are likely checking it out but don't have much to say. OK, I had a look. Nice site and kudos to the guy running it for setting it up. My first sample was Paxton Lynch and here I found immediate food for disagreement. He characterizes Roman's offense as : "A simple passing scheme aimed at getting the ball to the play-makers, relying on those guys to move the chains. Tyrod had struggles in the passing game and fans labeled him a “one read and run” type QB. But if you go back and study the film, that issue wasn’t all on Tyrod, the system put him in those situations. You could say the same about Lynch, he often was asked to take one step, make one read which is why many scouts think he is still a couple years away. But that isn’t to say that he can’t scan the field. His height allows him to stand in the pocket and scan the field, unlike Tyrod who often had to leave the pocket." Now I don't know nuttin about college football, so I can't speak to what offense Lynch was or was not asked to run. But I think Roman's offense is much better characterized by Hogan in his quoted interview. There are usually several play options for the QB prior to the snap. I also watched a lot of all-22 and slomo condensed, and while I couldn't disagree that things broke down and Tyrod had to scramble at times, I disagree that's the system. There was usually an outlet receiver and a couple options, and Tyrod sometimes fixed on a guy and failed to see a better option developing, or failed to step up into the pocket and buy time to deliver. I'm blanking on who, but someone did a weekly all-22 last season that did a pretty good job of sorting this out. Also, one of Tyrod's strengths was a very pretty deep ball, which again is not relying on the playmakers to move the chains. If I have time tomorrow I'll check out his defensive stuff. Most of us are stronger on one or the other side of the ball. All-22 Breakdown of Roman's passing concepts right here ---> http://buildingtheherd.com/film-room/greg-romans-passing-concepts-in-buffalo-bills-offense-an-all-22-breakdown/ i don't want to keep plugging my stuff here so you click the scheme breakdowns tab and there's posts on run concepts, safety play, linebacker play as well.
Dr. Who Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Thanks for this. It will improve my productivity at work immensely. Since he agrees with my views on Lynch, I am happy with him. Will check out more later.
Cover 1 Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) Non-controversial posts often draw some views but few responses. If you're getting views, people are likely checking it out but don't have much to say. OK, I had a look. Nice site and kudos to the guy running it for setting it up. My first sample was Paxton Lynch and here I found immediate food for disagreement. He characterizes Roman's offense as : "A simple passing scheme aimed at getting the ball to the play-makers, relying on those guys to move the chains. Tyrod had struggles in the passing game and fans labeled him a “one read and run” type QB. But if you go back and study the film, that issue wasn’t all on Tyrod, the system put him in those situations. You could say the same about Lynch, he often was asked to take one step, make one read which is why many scouts think he is still a couple years away. But that isn’t to say that he can’t scan the field. His height allows him to stand in the pocket and scan the field, unlike Tyrod who often had to leave the pocket." Now I don't know nuttin about college football, so I can't speak to what offense Lynch was or was not asked to run. But I think Roman's offense is much better characterized by Hogan in his quoted interview. There are usually several play options for the QB prior to the snap. I also watched a lot of all-22 and slomo condensed, and while I couldn't disagree that things broke down and Tyrod had to scramble at times, I disagree that's the system. There was usually an outlet receiver and a couple options, and Tyrod sometimes fixed on a guy and failed to see a better option developing, or failed to step up into the pocket and buy time to deliver. I'm blanking on who, but someone did a weekly all-22 last season that did a pretty good job of sorting this out. Also, one of Tyrod's strengths was a very pretty deep ball, which again is not relying on the playmakers to move the chains. If I have time tomorrow I'll check out his defensive stuff. Most of us are stronger on one or the other side of the ball. I hear ya, but if you take a look at the Tyrod Taylor video I did you will see how Roman almost made Taylor look like a one read and run QB. He ran a lot of 3x1 sets, solo side ran a Man coverage beater. If not open TT had to read and throw to zone coverage beaters on the 3 WR side. I am not putting all of the blame on either or. Some of that is on having an inexperienced QB too. Roman spends a great deal of time scheming his runs for Sundays that the passing game suffers. There is only so much practice time. It is fairly common knowledge that Roman's passing schemes and route tree are not that complex. Edited April 26, 2016 by TurnerE
3rdand12 Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I hear ya, but if you take a look at the Tyrod Taylor video I did you will see how Roman almost made Taylor look like a one read and run QB. He ran a lot of 3x1 sets, solo side ran a Man coverage beater. If not open TT had to read and throw to zone coverage beaters on the 3 WR side. I am not putting all of the blame on either or. Some of that is on having an inexperienced QB too. Roman spends a great deal of time scheming his runs for Sundays that the passing game suffers. There is only so much practice time. It is fairly common knowledge that Roman's passing schemes and route tree are not that complex. Keep in mind that Bills were trying to find the QB all preseason with 3 getting reps. Lets hope Lal opens up the trees and Tyrod can see them develop
Cover 1 Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Keep in mind that Bills were trying to find the QB all preseason with 3 getting reps. Lets hope Lal opens up the trees and Tyrod can see them develop That is true, I think Roman will open it up more. I just worry about his passing game bc like Dilfer said the footwork doesn't match up with the depth of the route. Hence TT is sitting in the pocket waiting for route to develop instead of throwing on timing. If u watch his system going back to SF even with Alex Smith it was the same...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 That is true, I think Roman will open it up more. I just worry about his passing game bc like Dilfer said the footwork doesn't match up with the depth of the route. Hence TT is sitting in the pocket waiting for route to develop instead of throwing on timing. If u watch his system going back to SF even with Alex Smith it was the same... You should post more often...
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