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Dumb it down for these mental giants. This game gets more complex as players get dumber. How does someone make it all the way through college and be unable to perform their job? Last time I checked, no boss I have ever had dumbed down jobs to appease the morons in the office.

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As a former player and coach I can tell you this

 

The more you require a player to "think" on a field the more it takes away from reactionary time, communication, and players start cheating on their basic fundamentals......

 

There is a reason why 2 tenths of a second is made a big deal of at the NFL level......because its the difference between winning and losing on a a play

 

Now.....I dont necessarily think that Rex Ryan's past schemes are wrong....only that I thought it might take some time for the players to become adjusted to them......and for Rex to become adjusted to his players

 

fingers crossed

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Missed it, but certainly worthy of a new thread. :thumbsup:

 

Ha, yeah. I just scanned the front page. I haven't been deep into threads so if that's where it was, it would have eluded me.

As a former player and coach I can tell you this

 

The more you require a player to "think" on a field the more it takes away from reactionary time, communication, and players start cheating on their basic fundamentals......

 

There is a reason why 2 tenths of a second is made a big deal of at the NFL level......because its the difference between winning and losing on a a play

 

Now.....I dont necessarily think that Rex Ryan's past schemes are wrong....only that I thought it might take some time for the players to become adjusted to them......and for Rex to become adjusted to his players

 

fingers crossed

 

Totally agree.

 

Also, knowing anything about human nature would lead you to believe that the 2015 growing pains would/should have been two fold:

  • Players getting to know coaches/scheme
  • Coaches/scheme getting to know players

By all reports now, there is adaptability on both sides of the table, and things are progressing as if.

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Last time I checked, no boss I have ever had dumbed down jobs to appease the morons in the office.

 

There is great weighting given to physical strength and speed in the NFL, unlike most office jobs. Every player is some blending of both the physical and mental skills. If a player has outstanding physical skills, a boss (coach) might very well 'dumb down the job to appease the morons' so he can get the physical talent on the field.

 

I don't know anything about Brown's intelligence and don't mean to insult him here, just saying ...

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Mario Williams was quoted as saying "So now he decides to simplify things? %#@!"

Mario is in South Beach chasing girls he's gonna have to take to court to get a ring back from. :rolleyes:

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Dumb it down for these mental giants. This game gets more complex as players get dumber. How does someone make it all the way through college and be unable to perform their job? Last time I checked, no boss I have ever had dumbed down jobs to appease the morons in the office.

 

Maybe the coaches could just the friggin' plays in on time and go from there?

 

You cannot tell me that that wasn't a huge part of the problem. Complex/numerous reads, but no time. And that didn't work?

Edited by BarleyNY
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Dumb it down for these mental giants. This game gets more complex as players get dumber. How does someone make it all the way through college and be unable to perform their job? Last time I checked, no boss I have ever had dumbed down jobs to appease the morons in the office.

 

Bosses and companies try to simplify things for their staff and employees all the time. Isn't that what management is all about, keeping things simple and efficient?

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Maybe the coaches could just the friggin' plays in on time and go from there?

 

You cannot tell me that that wasn't a huge part of the problem. Complex/numerous reads, but no time. And that didn't work?

+1 Looking back, it's a wonder things didn't boil over more. Hard to learn regardless, but add in your coaches aren't getting you the play call? Bet that defensive locker room got pretty ugly at points.

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Dumb it down for these mental giants. This game gets more complex as players get dumber. How does someone make it all the way through college and be unable to perform their job? Last time I checked, no boss I have ever had dumbed down jobs to appease the morons in the office.

How do you think these guys make it through college? Do you think they actually attend class?

 

Does this mean the D won't be any good because we no longer have a "complex scheme"?

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Thanks for posting - I missed this too.

 

I get how Rex would be conflicted. If I was a HC or coordinator, I'd want to out-scheme and out-smart my opponents. I could see myself falling into the trap of making things too complicated.

 

But a lot of these players were not A students in college. And you want your D to make quick decisions and then act with aggression. Simple schemes executed with a high degree of violence and precision can be better than complicated schemes executed with self-doubt and confusion.

 

The optimal balancing point between brilliant complexity and aggressive simplicity is tough to find. And it will vary from team to team, season to season, depending on the players.

 

Rex has clearly reevaluated his defensive roster and is moving toward the simpler end of the continuum.

 

Based on some of the things we've heard from the players and saw on the field last year, this is probably a wise move.

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Dumb it down for these mental giants. This game gets more complex as players get dumber. How does someone make it all the way through college and be unable to perform their job? Last time I checked, no boss I have ever had dumbed down jobs to appease the morons in the office.

Coming from a manufacturing background this was the bulk of what we did as manufacturing and process engineers.

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Looked like Ryan simplified things after the bye last season. Maybe not in terms of terminology, but certainly in terms of assignments and responsibilities. It helped Brown, too, that Lawson took over the field calls. It will be interesting to see how Brown reacts when he resumes defensive QB duties for the front seven.

 

GO BILLS!!!

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