YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Miami might be interested, I hope not http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article72943127.html#navlink=Lead didnt they just inherit that terrible Maxwell contract?
thebandit27 Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 didnt they just inherit that terrible Maxwell contract? Yes...I still think they'll go after him so that they can ignore corner in the draft and make their move for Zeke
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 i don't think he ever signed his tag. So he'd have to agree to the team he's being traded to in order to sign the tag, so they can trade him +1
machine gun kelly Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Reports were 8 teams have reached out to his agent including the Dolphins, but the 49ers seemed to have the most interest. I'm surprised the Jags aren't in the hunt. They run a 4-3, and use zone corners and have the most cap space. I don't think they have to give Bortles his big contract for two years so they're not saving for him next year. What would be best for us with Gilmore is he gets at most 12.5 mil in another club, and he could have stayed on a SB team for that money. It also sounds like Carolina was a little over his interest in media attn. If I get my wish we can make the case for Gilmore for $13.5 mil with more guaranteed than Norman's deal to make him happy.
Gordio Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Carolina has a good message board. The Carolina huddle or something. Xanr remember it. It'll have info. But I'd heard this down here is that talks were terrible and neither side was ever going to be close. The panthers not believing he is worth it and didn't want to give him more than 4 yrs. He was looking for 6+ yrs. Etc Basically, he's overrated as can be I think your dead on with this one. This guy is not Revis in his prime. Carolina knows what they have in him & that is a slightly above average CB that is significantly helped out by the coverages Carolina plays. Some team will foolishly give Norman 5 years - 70 million with half of it guaranteed, I am just glad it is not going to be the Bills.
BarleyNY Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 I'm seeing a lot of zone corner shaming going on. Acting like it's not a skill, get the !@#$ outta here. Agreed. Carolina couldn't trade Norman because he wasn't under contract as he didn't sign his tender, this is why they could rescind it. In my opinion this is a mistake on Norman's part. There's a limited market for him at this point so he's going to get much less money than if he played under the 14 million tag for a year and became a free agent next year. Exactly. Players are not actually traded, contracts are. No contract, no trade. If Norman's agent had found a team to trade for him he'd have had to have signed a contract first.
truth on hold Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Miami might be interested, I hope not http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article72943127.html#navlink=Lead Would love to see Miami blow what little cap space they have left on this guy. Watkins would eat his lunch for years
boyst Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Top ranked CB in football last year. What other uber wrong takes do you want to post ?who the hell had him top ranked? He was anything but.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 @CharlesRobinson Sources: #49ers expected to be early front-runner for Josh Norman. #Jaguars have interest. Story coming.
Charles Romes Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 29 as a corner and you play hard ball after getting a tag? This guy does not have a sense of reality. He may squeeze out one more elite year if he stays healthy and is lucky.
Malazan Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Miami might be interested, I hope not http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article72943127.html#navlink=Lead I really hope so. Norman will be a colossal disappointment for the amount of money he gets.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 @AdamSchefter Teams expressing most interest in former Panthers CB Josh Norman so far include SF, Washington, Pittsburgh, Miami. Others also making pitch. Other teams that have expressed interest in CB Josh Norman include the Bucs, Jets, Bears and Titans.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Top ranked CB in football last year. What other uber wrong takes do you want to post ?Not all CBs are created equal. A simple system change and a great CB can become a bad CB,and vice versa. Norman is not a Revis, either is Sherman. Sherman for example plays the same side of the field all game long.
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 @jasonlacanfora The Steelers are not pursuing and will not pursue Josh Norman.
BillsVet Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Unless your scheme requires excellent CB play with types who are left alone on the outside with WR's, I'm not sure investing in CB's to this degree is absolutely necessary. A team has to align scheme with cost requirements, like what was done years ago in Indianapolis. They weren't going to spend big on defense because more was required for the offensive side of the ball with P. Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Clark, E. James, et al. So their defensive scheme, a Tampa-2 was suitable because corners were zone types, the LBs were smaller quicker types, and their big dollar types were DE's and safeties, and perhaps DT's. The Bills don't seem to have that. Their personnel acquisition isn't aligned with scheme, which means (as Whaley noted) they're top heavy. This only happens though when you've got solid personnel administration and coaching who are in lock step. I'm not sure the Bills have been there in more than 20 years. Good for Gettlleman. Now Norman can go look for the big contract after all the teams have spent most of their cap. Edited April 21, 2016 by BillsVet
Maury Ballstein Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Not all CBs are created equal. A simple system change and a great CB can become a bad CB,and vice versa. Norman is not a Revis, either is Sherman. Sherman for example plays the same side of the field all game long. Norman is awesome. He plays w fire and will tackle anyone. Revis can't do that anymore.
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 I think your dead on with this one. This guy is not Revis in his prime. Carolina knows what they have in him & that is a slightly above average CB that is significantly helped out by the coverages Carolina plays. Some team will foolishly give Norman 5 years - 70 million with half of it guaranteed, I am just glad it is not going to be the Bills. Teams always foolishly give crazy 2nd or 3rd contracts to "elite QBs". It's always a waste of money. No one has parlayed this foolishness of FO's better than Revis himself. Look how many contracts he has squeezed out, and yet he has been passed around by more teams than a blunt at Coachella. 4 teams in 4 years! If he stays on the Jets roster, it will be the first time since the 2011 season where a team hasn't let him go after one year.
Chilly Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Norman is a great zone cornerback. It remains to be seen if he'll be a great player in another system. Jacksonville plays a similar zone CB scheme to Carolina so I think that would be a pretty good fit.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 @RapSheet Josh Norman news: The free agent CB is hiring agent Ryan Williams of Athletes First to take lead on his contract. Michael George will co-rep
Chilly Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 @RapSheet Josh Norman news: The free agent CB is hiring agent Ryan Williams of Athletes First to take lead on his contract. Michael George will co-rep Hmm... Wonder if Norman could stay in Carolina. Reminds me of when the Giants rescinded Plaxico's tag, he got a new agent, and then signed with the Giants.
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