Gordio Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I moved to Las Vegas in 2001. Since then, I have seen that this town has been starved for professional sports. There are many transplanted Californians in Las Vegas that are excited about the Raiders moving to Las Vegas. Also, with this being a destination city, visiting fans will make a pilgrimage here to see their favorite team play. What would cause a team to fail? The Raiders had very bad attendance in recent years until they started winning. The 49ers attendance has been abysmal. Jacksonville has had poor attendance. With the TV revenue and other income streams, attendance is a secondary factor in the success of an NFL franchise. The only reason teams are moving now is because they can not get public financing for a new stadium Las Vegas set a record for the amount of public financing provided by the home city. $750,000,000. Local reporters are hailing this as the biggest thing to ever hit the city of Las Vegas. UNLV will benefit by playing in a world class stadium and may be able to eventually move to a power 5 conference. Not to mention that every Friday there is a steady stream of Californians clogging westbound Interstate15 from Los Angeles. Many of which are Raider fans. Many locals are transplants and have loyalties with teams in their previous home towns are so excited and state that the Raiders are now their second favorite team. NASCAR just awarded this city a 2nd annual race because the spring race is now one of the most profitable and well attended races on their schedule. As a sidebar, a local ESPN affiliate was figuring the 2020 Raiders schedule and thinks that the Bills could be playing a game in Vegas that year. The Las Vegas Raiders will not only succeed, they may become the new "America's Team" You can bet on it! I got to agree with this. I really don't see how this doesn't work. Even if you don't get a ton of local support(which I don't think will be the case) this will be the #1 destination for visiting fans in the entire NFL. Coupled that with the fact that they will have no trouble selling those expensive luxury boxes to the corporations(my guess is every Casino on the strip will want a box to give out comps to their high rollers) & I think it will work just fine. I think the Chargers/Rams face an uphill climb making a go of it in LA though.
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I always feel bad for a fan base which loses its team. I've heard that the Oakland Coliseum was a total dump tho. That's what it boiled down to. Vegas is going to build them a new modern beautiful stadium. Side note: I heard that the Chargers stadium was awful too. This makes me happy NYS and the Bills put $200 million into the Ralph a couple years ago. At the end of the day, Oakland politicians are to blame. Will it be better for the citizens of Oakland tho? To be determined! HUH?? Yeah, politicians of a broke city are to blame for not giving Mark Davis 750 million as a gift to keep that team in OAK. Holy cow...
plenzmd1 Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 we all need to be very leery when it comes to Jerry and the Bills....we are next on the list, and I foresee not an easy process. http://bit.ly/2mMbsDy
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 we all need to be very leery when it comes to Jerry and the Bills....we are next on the list, and I foresee not an easy process. http://bit.ly/2mMbsDy Next on what list?
plenzmd1 Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Next on what list? Needs to generate more revenue with new stadium financed with public money and serviced by Legends Hospitality ..or else list Edited March 28, 2017 by plenzmd1
Riverboat Richie Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 HUH?? Yeah, politicians of a broke city are to blame for not giving Mark Davis 750 million as a gift to keep that team in OAK. Holy cow... Why is the city broke in the first place?
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Why is the city broke in the first place? They spend more than they take in?
Matt_In_NH Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I feel for fans who lose their team. We are truly fortunate the Pegula's stepped up and saved Buffalo from losing their sports teams. No matter what you think about how things are being managed, at least we have something to B word about.
Riverboat Richie Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 They spend more than they take in? Aren't politicians to blame for that. Wow, my point went right by you....... both lanes.
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Aren't politicians to blame for that. Wow, my point went right by you....... both lanes. So they should agree to spending more money they don't have on a stadium? You don't even know what is being discussed here.
Riverboat Richie Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 So they should agree to spending more money they don't have on a stadium? You don't even know what is being discussed here. No. My point is they ARE to blame for the fine job they are doing. They can't even CONSIDER money for a stadium. Way to run a City guys. Your votes in action people.
Gregsbills 74 Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I moved to Las Vegas in 2001. Since then, I have seen that this town has been starved for professional sports. There are many transplanted Californians in Las Vegas that are excited about the Raiders moving to Las Vegas. Also, with this being a destination city, visiting fans will make a pilgrimage here to see their favorite team play. What would cause a team to fail? The Raiders had very bad attendance in recent years until they started winning. The 49ers attendance has been abysmal. Jacksonville has had poor attendance. With the TV revenue and other income streams, attendance is a secondary factor in the success of an NFL franchise. The only reason teams are moving now is because they can not get public financing for a new stadium Las Vegas set a record for the amount of public financing provided by the home city. $750,000,000. Local reporters are hailing this as the biggest thing to ever hit the city of Las Vegas. UNLV will benefit by playing in a world class stadium and may be able to eventually move to a power 5 conference. Not to mention that every Friday there is a steady stream of Californians clogging westbound Interstate15 from Los Angeles. Many of which are Raider fans. Many locals are transplants and have loyalties with teams in their previous home towns are so excited and state that the Raiders are now their second favorite team. NASCAR just awarded this city a 2nd annual race because the spring race is now one of the most profitable and well attended races on their schedule. As a sidebar, a local ESPN affiliate was figuring the 2020 Raiders schedule and thinks that the Bills could be playing a game in Vegas that year. The Las Vegas Raiders will not only succeed, they may become the new "America's Team" You can bet on it! Agreed 100%
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 No. My point is they ARE to blame for the fine job they are doing. They can't even CONSIDER money for a stadium. Way to run a City guys. Your votes in action people. I was responding to a post that said it was the politicians' fault the Raiders were leaving (because they wouldn't fund a stadium).
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Boatdrinks Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I was responding to a post that said it was the politicians' fault the Raiders were leaving (because they wouldn't fund a stadium). The post you replied to didn't say that. It said the politicians were to blame. That's it. Perhaps with better management they could have gotten a deal done that was palatable to the taxpayers.
sfbillsfan Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I was responding to a post that said it was the politicians' fault the Raiders were leaving (because they wouldn't fund a stadium).Oakland's mayor did not want to throw a bunch of public $$$$ to the Raiders for a stadium that would have 8 games & 2 practice games and a few concerts.The A's play 81 games & are working on a site to stay in Oakland. It may be by the waterfront similar to the Giants at AT&T park, which is a beautiful facility. The reaction out here is "leave now Davis" & that's the PG version.
CodeMonkey Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Makes me wonder if there will be a sports book in the shiny new stadium.
Riverboat Richie Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Oakland's mayor did not want to throw a bunch of public $$$$ to the Raiders for a stadium that would have 8 games & 2 practice games and a few concerts. The A's play 81 games & are working on a site to stay in Oakland. It may be by the waterfront similar to the Giants at AT&T park, which is a beautiful facility. The reaction out here is "leave now Davis" & that's the PG version. This is what I don't understand.Politicians don't want to waste money on a football stadium but they waste it on a baseball stadium? What about the needs of the rest of the city?
sfbillsfan Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 This is what I don't understand.Politicians don't want to waste money on a football stadium but they waste it on a baseball stadium? What about the needs of the rest of the city? Actually the A's seem to be trying to it, at least their public stance is, w/ private monies. That's what the Giants did. They paid off their debt last year after only 16 years. Of course their ownership wanted to & produced winning teams.Oakland is still on the hook for 83 m $$ for getting the Raiders back. Again my point is that 81 events vs 10 events should bring in far more $$ in taxes, concessions, parking, etc. plus the added tax dollars from surrounding businesses based on the number of games that bring people into the area. I' m long time BILLS fan, but the number of baseball games far outnumbers football games.
Rocky Landing Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Aerial view Vegas: Aerial view Phoenix: Most of Phoenix smells like bum piss.
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