thebandit27 Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 It's only the Pro Bowl... All Pro team is where they should strive. All-pro teams are voted on by sports writers too--it's only more prestigious because it's one vote and there aren't any injury replacements. The subject of the article was the pro bowl, and I was responding to the lunacy of Landry and Cooper making over Watkins.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 And he got absolutely hosed last year. Amari Cooper and Jarvis Landry in the pro bowl ahead of Watkins? That's a joke. Cooper's numbers weren't as good as Sammy's despite playing 2 more games, and Landry barely eclipsed 10 yards per catch and had a total of 4 TDs. I was so mad when I saw them out there!! I was like, "wait a minute!! Where's Watkins??"
boyst Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 I was so mad when I saw them out there!! I was like, "wait a minute!! Where's Watkins??" you watched it? hahaha that's what you get.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 you watched it? hahaha that's what you get. I wouldn't say that I watched it. I was sitting in an airport bar saw Amari Cooper playing.
26CornerBlitz Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 Signing Gilmore & Taylor to extensions feasible The Bills have methodically taken care of some of the more important expiring contracts on their roster this offseason. Richie Incognito and Cordy Glenn are the two primary examples. Next up is considered to be Stephon Gilmore and Tyrod Taylor. Some outside observers wonder if Buffalo has enough cap room to lock up both long term. One expert says yes. In an appearance on the John Murphy Show, Corry explained why signing both Taylor and Gilmore to long term extensions is not going to be impacted by the cap space Buffalo has at their disposal.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 That seems like what many of the cap posters here have been saying. I'm wondering if the Bills are just taking their time with Gilmore. I think he gets the deal just before camp starts. The thing I find so refreshing about TT approach is he know he will get paid if he produces this year. Someone will pay him good money if he is as good or better than he was last year.
BarleyNY Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 That seems like what many of the cap posters here have been saying. I'm wondering if the Bills are just taking their time with Gilmore. I think he gets the deal just before camp starts. The thing I find so refreshing about TT approach is he know he will get paid if he produces this year. Someone will pay him good money if he is as good or better than he was last year. Yeah, the Bills have done what they needed to do to have room for a Gilmore extension now and TT next offseason. I won't start to worry about Gilmore's deal getting done until training camp starts. The Bills still have a lot of future cap space tied up in existing players. A Gilmore extension would move them into the top position in the league for future cap commitments. That means a lot of stability in the coming years as the current group of core players is going to stay largely intact. That's great from a growth and stability standpoint. It will, however, limit flexibility since cap dollars won't be available to do much in free agency. There's also some inherient risk in guaranteeing such a high percentage of many of the big contracts through front loading and guaranteed dollars. Those players have to stay relatively healthy and perform well because they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. The coming off-seasons will likely look a lot like this one, especially if Taylor is deemed worthy of a big contract in 2017. If not, they can use those dollars for a FA QB for the long or short term. They've also got all of their day 1 and 2 draft picks available if they want to make a move for one in the 2017 draft. The roster has been built, with the possible exception of the hedge at QB. Now it's up to the coaches to get the players over the top.
26CornerBlitz Posted June 11, 2016 Author Posted June 11, 2016 @TyDunne This morning's 3 #Bills thoughts: Risk in losing Gilmore, caution with McCoy, Goodwin's challenge... https://t.co/idtPl7w2wn Letting premier cornerbacks leave. The Buffalo Bills have been there before. They’ve managed to draft elite cornerbacks — Antoine Winfield and Nate Clements — to only see those elite cornerbacks leave in free agency. Could Stephon Gilmore be next after the 2016 season? Maybe. Right now, a long-term contract extension does not appear imminent. Indications I've received are that they haven't made significant headway on a new deal. Marcell Dareus inked a long-term deal with the Bills after the team’s third exhibition game (remember his choice words in the Cleveland locker room?) so there’s still a chance a deal can get done before Gilmore’s contract year begins. Both Winfield and, especially, Clements signed mega contracts with new teams. But both were at the peak of their powers and Buffalo let them slip away.
RobRyanFan Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 @TyDunne This morning's 3 #Bills thoughts: Risk in losing Gilmore, caution with McCoy, Goodwin's challenge... https://t.co/idtPl7w2wn Letting premier cornerbacks leave. The Buffalo Bills have been there before. They’ve managed to draft elite cornerbacks — Antoine Winfield and Nate Clements — to only see those elite cornerbacks leave in free agency. Could Stephon Gilmore be next after the 2016 season? Maybe. Right now, a long-term contract extension does not appear imminent. Indications I've received are that they haven't made significant headway on a new deal. Marcell Dareus inked a long-term deal with the Bills after the team’s third exhibition game (remember his choice words in the Cleveland locker room?) so there’s still a chance a deal can get done before Gilmore’s contract year begins. Both Winfield and, especially, Clements signed mega contracts with new teams. But both were at the peak of their powers and Buffalo let them slip away. Call me insane, but I would franchise Gilmore and led Tyrod walk if we can'tget them locked up by next year.
machine gun kelly Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Winfield and Clements was a long time ago with different staff except Brandon. I'm hopeful as long as Gilmore is not absurd in his demands they wrap it up by the end of the summer. From the OP, I have no expectation we do anything about TT until after this season.
vincec Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Call me insane, but I would franchise Gilmore and led Tyrod walk if we can'tget them locked up by next year.You are insane. If Tyrod has a strong season then he is the top priority without question. Now, if he shows regression instead of progression then it's a different story.
3rdand12 Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) Call me insane, but I would franchise Gilmore and led Tyrod walk if we can'tget them locked up by next year. okay. you are insane. Gilmore is this years contract and TT next years. If Gilmore does not get done he will be franchised one season. Less money spent by the Bills. Tyrod will get paid if he shows the growth Edited June 11, 2016 by 3rdand12
26CornerBlitz Posted June 13, 2016 Author Posted June 13, 2016 @BumpNrunGilm0re I'm just here so I won't get fined @TyDunne Tyler Dunne Retweeted The Gilly Lock Stephon Gilmore will be at the #Bills mandatory minicamp but...
John from Riverside Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Call me insane, but I would franchise Gilmore and led Tyrod walk if we can'tget them locked up by next year. Yes because good QBs are sooooooo easy to find
nucci Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Call me insane, but I would franchise Gilmore and led Tyrod walk if we can'tget them locked up by next year. ok, done.......You prefer a CB over a QB?
Luxy312 Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Coupling the re-signing of both of these players makes no sense to me. Gilmore is a known commodity that has had multiple seasons with success at his position. For four years running, he's been the best CB on the team and facing opponents #1 receiver, wherever they line up on the field. Getting him under a long term deal should be a priority. He's 25 and has a lot of football years left in him. Tyrod Taylor on the other hand had a decent year last year. He really wasn't asked to do a lot though, nor did he. He basically was as productive as Alex Smith was last year. Do I want to see the Bills give a hefty long-term contract if all we're going to get is the next Alex Smith for the next 5-6 years? Simply put, no. Tyrod has had some really good games, but has had some poor games as well. When we've needed him to march the team down the field and score, he hasn't been able to do it. He's got two years left on his current contract with the second year voidable. If we see the improvement that we need to see, of course you lock him up and call him your guy. Right now is too soon for Taylor. Gilmore has nothing to prove. Sign him if you can or tag him next year if you can't.
NoSaint Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 @BumpNrunGilm0re I'm just here so I won't get fined @TyDunne Tyler Dunne Retweeted The Gilly Lock Stephon Gilmore will be at the #Bills mandatory minicamp but... if it was genuinely at a gridlock, i dont know that hed be posting that. at leaast im reading it as a little tongue in cheek
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Call me insane, but I would franchise Gilmore and led Tyrod walk if we can'tget them locked up by next year. If Tyrod is a starting QB, you can't let him walk. Starting QBs do not become available - ever. We have drafted serviceable CBs, and would probably do so again if we lost gilmore.
thebandit27 Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 if it was genuinely at a gridlock, i dont know that hed be posting that. at leaast im reading it as a little tongue in cheek Here's what I keep coming back to: can anyone name a time in which the Pegula regime wanted to re-sign a player and didn't get it done? Granted, it's been two offseasons, but since they bought the team, they've been able to work out long-term deals with: Hughes Dareus Glenn Incognito McCoy I'm honestly struggling to think of anyone that they seriously have attempted to re-up with and couldn't get done. I'm thinking that Gilmore's deal is only a matter of time.
NoSaint Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Here's what I keep coming back to: can anyone name a time in which the Pegula regime wanted to re-sign a player and didn't get it done? Granted, it's been two offseasons, but since they bought the team, they've been able to work out long-term deals with: Hughes Dareus Glenn Incognito McCoy I'm honestly struggling to think of anyone that they seriously have attempted to re-up with and couldn't get done. I'm thinking that Gilmore's deal is only a matter of time. that comes with 2 caveats. 1) like you mentioned, a rather small list still and at some point its bound to happen 2) they will still have some cutoff in value and we dont know if they want gilmore at his ask (and may just be playing hardball because its still best for the team to get the best deal possible) or if they like gilmore at a rate lower than he wants to go.
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