jr1 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I'm addicted to the panic we feel when Tyrod gets hurt and EJ enters the game
BarleyNY Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I really wish Buffalo could release EJ too he's terrible but the Bills would take a $2.8M cap hit for releasing him. Unfortunately I think we're stuck with him for this year. Which is really really unfortunate. His full cap hit presently is $2.8M. $1.2M is prorated signing bonus so there's nothing to be done about that. The other $1.6M is guaranteed salary, but his contract has offsets. That means that if he was cut, any compensation he received from another team this season would be deducted from the $1.6M the Bills would otherwise owe him. Also if he was waived and picked up off of waivers the new team would be responsible for his entire salary. Ditto if he was traded. The minimum salary for a 4th year player is $675k, so if he was waived, cleared waivers and was signed to a deal near that the Bills would have dead money of about $2.1M. If they manage to trade him, then dead money is only $1.2M. Those are very manageable situations. Â They can't do anything until they acquire some additional help at QB, however. Right now it is TT and EJ. At least two more QBs have to be added for training camp - even if they're just arms. Then they can see where they stand and think about moving on. Unless a team comes knocking with a very good offer there is nothing they can do right now. But I think it's probably coming before the regular season.
elcrusho Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I saw him at an event at raymond james stadium, he almost fell over while he was walking up stairs...clumsy.....nope
metzelaars_lives Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 No they shouldn't. He has been about the same as EJ to this point. There is minimal difference between the two. No. This is simply not true.
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 This is simply not true. It simply is. As I have already explained.
metzelaars_lives Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) It simply is. As I have already explained. Glennon: 18 starts, 29 TD's, 15 INT's, 83.7 passer rating Manuel: 16 starts, 19 TD's, 15 INT's, 78.5 passer rating  Glennon's QBR, for whatever that is worth, has also been much higher each year and he has thrown for far more yards per start.  Admittedly, their completion % and YPA are pretty much identical.  Still, they are by no stretch even. There does not exist a category that Manuel has been better than Glennon in, while Glennon has been decidedly better in nearly every category. Glennon has been better, plain and simple. By a country mile? No. But the difference is more than negligible. Edited April 12, 2016 by metzelaars_lives
Bookie Man Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Saw Mike Glennon the other day at the restaurant I work at. Tall dude.
Bills Fan in MD Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Wasnt there a thread about this exact same topic last offseason? Â Â Â Â CBF I say we trade for Glennon, re-sign Da'Rick Rogers off the waiver wire, and get ready for the most dynamic QB-WR combo this side of Jim Kelly and Andre Reed!!!
DisplacedBillsFan Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I expect a 3rd round draft pick to be a player that contributes a lot more than a backup QB. So, I don't even think I can chime in on the Glennon vs. EJ debate, because I think the proposed compensation is way too high.
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Glennon: 18 starts, 29 TD's, 15 INT's, 83.7 passer rating Manuel: 16 starts, 19 TD's, 15 INT's, 78.5 passer rating  Glennon's QBR, for whatever that is worth, has also been much higher each year and he has thrown for far more yards per start.  Admittedly, their completion % and YPA are pretty much identical.  Still, they are by no stretch even. There does not exist a category that Manuel has been better than Glennon in, while Glennon has been decidedly better in nearly every category. Glennon has been better, plain and simple. By a country mile? No. But the difference is more than negligible. Add in EJs yards and touchdowns rushing and his slightly higher completition percentage. Then factor the higher sack ratio of Glennon and as far as I am concerned what you are left with is a minimal difference.  Glennon is not good. He is a slightly better armed but less mobile EJ Manuel. Both have major accuracy issues. They both hurt your football team. You can't win with either.  The only category in which Glennon is "decidedly better" is passing TDs. An important one admittedly but I think when you look at their body of work in the round the difference is minimal.  I also believe EJ has a better W-L for whatever that is worth. Edited April 12, 2016 by GunnerBill
YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Saw Mike Glennon the other day at the restaurant I work at. Tall dude. does he look more or less like a llama in person
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 For me, Glennon is a better option as a number 2 than EJ. He makes more plays. Â With that being said, I have no interest in Glennon via trade. He isn't worth any assets to the Bills. They are better off drafting a young guy with a high ceiling or an inexpensive long-term backup. I am still of the belief that Tyrod is going to end up being the long-term option at QB. I have no reason to think otherwise at this point. He played well in his 1st season and I expect the progress to continue.
CommonCents Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Glennon was a viable option until Tyrod showed up. Unless Tampa is shipping him off for a laaaaaate round pick -6th or 7th then it's not a great investment. When we were staring at EJ as our starter I would have given the middle round pick for Glennon. Tyrod's ceiling is still debatable but his floor keeps us from making panic moves like this one.
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Glennon was a viable option until Tyrod showed up. Unless Tampa is shipping him off for a laaaaaate round pick -6th or 7th then it's not a great investment. When we were staring at EJ as our starter I would have given the middle round pick for Glennon. Tyrod's ceiling is still debatable but his floor keeps us from making panic moves like this one. Well said
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Glennon was a viable option until Tyrod showed up. Unless Tampa is shipping him off for a laaaaaate round pick -6th or 7th then it's not a great investment. When we were staring at EJ as our starter I would have given the middle round pick for Glennon. Tyrod's ceiling is still debatable but his floor keeps us from making panic moves like this one. Disagree. Glennon as a backup would be bad enough. Replacing EJ as a starter with Glennon would be the very definition of spinning our wheels. Neither will ever be good enough. Â Where I do agree is we are lucky we found Tyrod.
BuffaloPride Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Â I think glennon shredded us like 3 years ago. People don't forget! No he didn't. He sucked. Unfortunately EJ sucked worse and we lost. If I'm not mistaken that was the game Tampa scored an 80 yd run on thier very first play.
NickelCity Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Love Tyrod and am looking forward to him as starter. That being said, I would absolutely trade for Glennon if the price was right. This latter caveat is of course key, given that we have an entrenched starter. Regardless, saying Glennon is the same as EJ is ludicrous imo. He got a raw deal in tampa after showing a lot of promise.
Hot Buffalo Wings Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I'm addicted to the panic we feel when Tyrod gets hurt and EJ enters the game Haha, well said.
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 He got a raw deal in tampa after showing a lot of promise. No he didn't. He got benched because he sucked.
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