BarleyNY Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Jets could maybe make a package of pick #20, Mo Wilkerson, pick #51, An additional mid round pick this year, The Jets 1st next year, and The Jets 2nd next year for pick #1. The Titans get Wilkerson a very good defensive talent a couple of extra picks this year and a good haul for next years draft. while still getting to pick at 20. I don't think that the Jets need to go full RGIII trade but they need to put in a pretty good haul of picks on top of Wilkerson. Definitely include this years 2nd and next years 1st is the starting point. I think next years 2nd plus a 4th or 3rd this year would be a good topper to that deal at the minimum. I do think that the Skins !@#$ed everyone over as teams will be expecting 2 future 1st rounders along with a 2nd in any deal for trading up into a top pick that is a QB. They set the standard. Although Cleveland got significantly less in the trade for Sammy but that maybe was a team in a less desperate situation. Washington gave up #6 overall, #37 overall and two more first round picks for #2 overall where they picked RG3. The Bills gave up #9 overall and a future first round pick and fourth round pick to move to #4 to draft Watkins. Going from #20 to #1 would cost far more than the RG3 trade. In fact, it would cost so much it would be infeasible to actually accomplish. Even what you've listed wouldn't be nearly enough as it's still less than value than what the RG3 deal netted the Rams. The Titans are set to draft a stud where they are. They'd be moving from getting an elite player (probably a top LT which they desperately need) to catching the edge of the blue chip/red chip tiers of players. The second round pick this year would be #57 and next year's picks would have to be considered to be in the last third of their rounds since the Jets would be expected to make the playoffs with a top QB (at least for trade value purposes). #20, #57, a bottom third 1st in 2017, a bottom third 2nd, Mo Wilkerson on a franchise tag and a mid round pick does not scratch what would be required for #1 overall.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Washington gave up #6 overall, #37 overall and two more first round picks for #2 overall where they picked RG3. The Bills gave up #9 overall and a future first round pick and fourth round pick to move to #4 to draft Watkins. Going from #20 to #1 would cost far more than the RG3 trade. In fact, it would cost so much it would be infeasible to actually accomplish. Even what you've listed wouldn't be nearly enough as it's still less than value than what the RG3 deal netted the Rams. The Titans are set to draft a stud where they are. They'd be moving from getting an elite player (probably a top LT which they desperately need) to catching the edge of the blue chip/red chip tiers of players. The second round pick this year would be #57 and next year's picks would have to be considered to be in the last third of their rounds since the Jets would be expected to make the playoffs with a top QB (at least for trade value purposes). #20, #57, a bottom third 1st in 2017, a bottom third 2nd, Mo Wilkerson on a franchise tag and a mid round pick does not scratch what would be required for #1 overall. Depends how you view Wilkerson - if he's your marcel dareus type of boss on the line. You can grab a left tackle at 20, and you get at least 1 more first next year. I'd assume some other draft compensation - 2nd's and such. Could definitely help a team needing playmakers all over, who already have their QB. I don't think it will happen... but i'd respect the jets for actually making that big of a move for a QB.
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Washington gave up #6 overall, #37 overall and two more first round picks for #2 overall where they picked RG3. The Bills gave up #9 overall and a future first round pick and fourth round pick to move to #4 to draft Watkins. Going from #20 to #1 would cost far more than the RG3 trade. In fact, it would cost so much it would be infeasible to actually accomplish. Even what you've listed wouldn't be nearly enough as it's still less than value than what the RG3 deal netted the Rams. The Titans are set to draft a stud where they are. They'd be moving from getting an elite player (probably a top LT which they desperately need) to catching the edge of the blue chip/red chip tiers of players. The second round pick this year would be #57 and next year's picks would have to be considered to be in the last third of their rounds since the Jets would be expected to make the playoffs with a top QB (at least for trade value purposes). #20, #57, a bottom third 1st in 2017, a bottom third 2nd, Mo Wilkerson on a franchise tag and a mid round pick does not scratch what would be required for #1 overall. I agree with this. The Titans have already said they have players they like at #1 and they are not going to sell that pick cheap. They took the same approach with the #2 pick last year when we know that there were teams (*cough* Chip Kelly) who wanted to get up to that spot. If Mo Wilkerson was on a 3 year deal it would be different.... but a one year rental of Mo Wilkerson is not equal to a first round pick - nowhere near.
Coach Tuesday Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 This is great work. And I think folks are underrating Mo Wilkerson - he's one of the five best defensive tackles in football, a PROVEN talent still early in his career. That said, the Titans' strength is their front seven, so I'm not sure it makes sense for them.
YoloinOhio Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 This is great work. And I think folks are underrating Mo Wilkerson - he's one of the five best defensive tackles in football, a PROVEN talent still early in his career. That said, the Titans' strength is their front seven, so I'm not sure it makes sense for them.SD might trade for him, they could *really* use a player like that.
BarleyNY Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) This is great work. And I think folks are underrating Mo Wilkerson - he's one of the five best defensive tackles in football, a PROVEN talent still early in his career. That said, the Titans' strength is their front seven, so I'm not sure it makes sense for them. It isn't his talent, it's his contract. He's franchised which means the hed have to agree to a long term deal with the Titans after the trade. Their only other option would be to tag him again in 2017 at a 20% increase over this season's salary. By the following season the tag option becomes pretty unrealistic to do again. That would be a huge risk on TEN's part and really limits his trade value. Why would a team give up value for a player on a franchise tag unless they had a new contract worked out in advance? Edited April 11, 2016 by BarleyNY
Santana Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Very nice, I hope Buffalo would get more than just swapping first rounders this year and getting Denver's second round. I'd hope they'd also get a first rounder next year.
YoloinOhio Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Very nice, I hope Buffalo would get more than just swapping first rounders this year and getting Denver's second round. I'd hope they'd also get a first rounder next year.i agree - Denver's 2nd rounder is basically a 3rd rounder. I'd want another pick in addition.
Kirby Jackson Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 i agree - Denver's 2nd rounder is basically a 3rd rounder. I'd want another pick in addition.I keep saying it but Emmanuel Sanders should be the ask if we are gong from 19 to 31. He's a FA after the year but can be the long-term #2. They would have to get Glenn and Gilmore done to do it I would think. The Bills will have the ability to sign him next year.
YoloinOhio Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) I keep saying it but Emmanuel Sanders should be the ask if we are gong from 19 to 31. He's a FA after the year but can be the long-term #2. They would have to get Glenn and Gilmore done to do it I would think. The Bills will have the ability to sign him next year.ha - I almost said that. I love that guy. Such a tough player. Would fit in perfectly with this offense. Edited April 11, 2016 by YoloinOhio
John from Riverside Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 I keep saying it but Emmanuel Sanders should be the ask if we are gong from 19 to 31. He's a FA after the year but can be the long-term #2. They would have to get Glenn and Gilmore done to do it I would think. The Bills will have the ability to sign him next year. I would LOVE that
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