birdog1960 Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 I don't doubt NC's convictions can be bought for the amount of money the federal government is withholding. I also don't doubt that the feds will withhold the money no matter how many lawsuits NC might win. yeah. I don't see a proble,m with them funding their own hs football and doing away with cheerleading. some nc voters might however.
B-Man Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 North Carolina and other states have preemptively moved forward in creating these kinds of bills to head off the federal government’s redefining gender. But it’s too late. The fact is, at any point, the government can simply announce that a man can choose to be a woman and vice versa. This announcement would then compel everyone in the country to accept this reality. Yet there is currently no federal definition of what transgender is, other than self-identification, which can mean anything. Vanita Gupta, head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, says: “Transgender men are men. . . . Transgender women are women.” So sayeth Gupta, so say us all — or else. And now, 323 million people must adhere to the Obama administration’s relativistic notions of nature and gender.
birdog1960 Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) North Carolina and other states have preemptively moved forward in creating these kinds of bills to head off the federal government’s redefining gender. But it’s too late. The fact is, at any point, the government can simply announce that a man can choose to be a woman and vice versa. This announcement would then compel everyone in the country to accept this reality. Yet there is currently no federal definition of what transgender is, other than self-identification, which can mean anything. Vanita Gupta, head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, says: “Transgender men are men. . . . Transgender women are women.” So sayeth Gupta, so say us all — or else. And now, 323 million people must adhere to the Obama administration’s relativistic notions of nature and gender. yes, because those publicly birth gender heterosexuals that are insecure in their gender feel threatened by the 1 in 7000-40000 that are publicly uncertain of their birth gender assignment or certain that it's incorrect. there's really no other material threat to society. how many transgender guys do you think are peeing in the ladies at bills games? have you ever heard a complaint? Edited May 13, 2016 by birdog1960
boyst Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 North Carolina School District to Allow Students to Carry Pepper Spray, to Ward Off Bathroom Attacks http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/05/13/north-carolina-school-district-allow-students-carry-pepper-spray-ward-bathroom-attacks/ A Teacher’s Perspective: Transgender Bathrooms In Schools http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2016/05/13/teachers-perspective-transgender-bathrooms-schools/ ‘Straight into the paper shredder:’ Texans decry Obama schools directive about transgender bathrooms 5/13/2016 The Washington Post ^ . "The Obama administration is planning to issue a sweeping directive telling every public school district in the country to allow transgender students to use the bathrooms that match their gender identity The NYT reports. It does not have the force of law, but it contains an implicit threat: Schools that do not abide by the Obama administration’s interpretation of the law could face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid.... “A school may not require transgender students to use facilities inconsistent with their gender identity or to use individual-user facilities when other students are not required to do so,” according to the letter, a copy of which was provided to The New York Times.... As soon as a child’s parent or legal guardian asserts a gender identity for the student that “differs from previous representations or records,” the letter says, the child is to be treated accordingly — without any requirement for a medical diagnosis or birth certificate to be produced. Here's the key. And how long do we think that "parent or legal guardian" part will stay in there? . salisbury voted that down, they rethought the law.
boyst Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 just how prevalent are transgender students? 1/500. 1/1000? honestly don't know but there would seem to be a reasonable threshold in order to justify the cost of that. wouldn't surprise me if some home schoolers tried to cash in however and get a bathroom remodel out of it. edit: hmmm, prevalence is still an open question but looks like it's in the 1/15000-20,000 range for both sexes combined. https://tgmentalhealth.com/2010/03/31/the-prevalence-of-transgenderism/ sending them, if agreeable, to the same school, and having a separate transgender locker room with toilets in these schools would seem the better solution. bottom line however is that this is seldom going to be a practical proble. how many students does the avg hs have? given these numbers there's prob 1 student for every 5 school or more. does it matter if it is 1 or 1000 in 1000? what does the law say? why doesn't obama and his puppet group actually use the legislative process? that's right, democracy doesn't suit him and his agenda. yes, because those publicly birth gender heterosexuals that are insecure in their gender feel threatened by the 1 in 7000-40000 that are publicly uncertain of their birth gender assignment or certain that it's incorrect. there's really no other material threat to society. how many transgender guys do you think are peeing in the ladies at bills games? have you ever heard a complaint? you're a moron, you're truly an unintelligent moron who knows nothing and thinks nothing of consequences. can i put jock cream ointment on my scrotum beside your family in the locker room? give em access to the faculty bathroom. problem solved. oh my god, when i thought you could not get any more stupid... you really did it. lets have adults and children in the same bathroom undressing! lets have teen girl/boy whatever they want to be undressing next to teachers! that's a !@#$ing brilliant move! "i feel like being a girl today, i want to go **** next to my teacher and see her topless." "i'm a troubled youth who identifies as a girl despite my rooster and balls. i have trouble fitting in and don't understand social norms due to being ostracized... i get my information from the internet and youtube blogs from sjw's and today a teacher looked at me and i think i was eye raped. i think i should tell someone. i am a victim of rape!" give em access to the faculty bathroom. problem solved. oh my god, when
DC Tom Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 does it matter if it is 1 or 1000 in 1000? what does the law say? why doesn't obama and his puppet group actually use the legislative process? They are. They're acting under Title IX, and making a regulatory determination (even though it's not in the CFR yet.)
boyst Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 They are. They're acting under Title IX, and making a regulatory determination (even though it's not in the CFR yet.) a determination that the populous agrees with? a determination that will further separate the people from their federal government and align them more to local government? that could be a good thing...i reckon
birdog1960 Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 does it matter if it is 1 or 1000 in 1000? what does the law say? why doesn't obama and his puppet group actually use the legislative process? that's right, democracy doesn't suit him and his agenda. you're a moron, you're truly an unintelligent moron who knows nothing and thinks nothing of consequences. can i put jock cream ointment on my scrotum beside your family in the locker room? oh my god, when i thought you could not get any more stupid... you really did it. lets have adults and children in the same bathroom undressing! lets have teen girl/boy whatever they want to be undressing next to teachers! that's a !@#$ing brilliant move! "i feel like being a girl today, i want to go **** next to my teacher and see her topless." "i'm a troubled youth who identifies as a girl despite my rooster and balls. i have trouble fitting in and don't understand social norms due to being ostracized... i get my information from the internet and youtube blogs from sjw's and today a teacher looked at me and i think i was eye raped. i think i should tell someone. i am a victim of rape!" oh my god, when yes, because most rapists aren't toothless, deliverance types, untouchable testosterone laden jocks or famous political family's med school heroes but rather transexual men wearing lingerie. they're the ones that strike fear into every human without a y chromosome.
boyst Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 yes, because most rapists aren't toothless, deliverance types, untouchable testosterone laden jocks or famous political family's med school heroes but rather transexual men wearing lingerie. they're the ones that strike fear into every human without a y chromosome. what the hell does your rambling babble mean? you didn't address anything.
CommonCents Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 what the hell does your rambling babble mean? you didn't address anything. Sure he did, be afraid of trashy people, jocks, and highly successful members of society but ignore the sexually confused folks they are harmless.
boyst Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Sure he did, be afraid of trashy people, jocks, and highly successful members of society but ignore the sexually confused folks they are harmless. ok, that sort of makes sense in that grammatically it's a statement but it is a stupid statement and really has no appropriate fitting to the discussion unless his point was to further distance the point from the reality of the situation. sexually confused people - if that's how you call them - whatever you want to call them - are no different than anyone. and it is not about them. it is about everyone. Edited May 14, 2016 by Boyst62
ALF Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 But, they won't accept that "common sense" it is still discrimination (to the left) if the person is not allowed full access like the other sex they identify with...... Now what ? . Looks like a Supreme Court case for sure
What a Tuel Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 yes, because those publicly birth gender heterosexuals that are insecure in their gender feel threatened by the 1 in 7000-40000 that are publicly uncertain of their birth gender assignment or certain that it's incorrect. there's really no other material threat to society. how many transgender guys do you think are peeing in the ladies at bills games? have you ever heard a complaint? Let me ask you why do you think a trans persons feelings about what bathroom or changing room they prefer to be in supersedes the privacy concerns of every other individual? I am offended by the notion that any woman wants me out of their bathroom because I am a man, and men do bad things! No, rather I understand the need for separate facilities for both privacy and safety reasons. If 50% of the population can accept that, and not be hurt that they are practically being called potential creeps and rapists, why can't less than 1%? I agree that the bathroom situation isn't the biggest deal, because trans people have been doing it for years, and hardly anyone has noticed or cared. When you open it up to a free for all, then you have the creeps come out of the woodwork because they have no skin in the game. Creep wants to go into the girls bathroom at Target after he sees some girl go in? Why not? He's a creep. Girl tries to get him kicked out - "well that is what I identify as" and on to the next victim until it becomes a little more physical. Then there comes the changing rooms, which people say will never happen, but just like bathrooms how can you argue to block people out of changing/locker rooms? You say they are harmless, but it is still violating someone's privacy, and that shouldn't just be disregarded as bigotry. It should be considered because that is how these people feel - and you are all about protecting everyone's feelings right? Not just the special cases.
unbillievable Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 As guardian of my dog, I know for a fact that he identifies as a human. Under Title IX, I am within my right to take him to a human hospital and ask that he attend school with everyone else. He can currently count to five. I also demand that bathrooms be renovated to accommodate his short stature.
boyst Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 Looks like a Supreme Court case for sure is north carolina going to be strong enough to get that far? is mcrory going to survive an election in november and last long enough to get the scotus?
ALF Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 I think Obama just guaranteed a bigger Republican majority in Congress with this issue alone.
unbillievable Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) The liberals are focusing solely on the transgender issue. In every media outlet condemning North Carolina (whether it be MSNBC, or Youtube) they refuse to mention anything else. On the other hand, every conservative conversation goes straight to talking about sexual predators and protecting families; starting every argument with a statement saying they don't even care if tranny's use the restroom or not. Can anyone guess which argument the vast majority of Americans relate to more? And we're talking about a time when parents won't even let their children walk home from school. Obama is guaranteeing an election massacre by making this a core issue. Edited May 16, 2016 by unbillievable
birdog1960 Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 The liberals are focusing solely on the transgender issue. In every media outlet condemning North Carolina (whether it be MSNBC, or Youtube) they refuse to mention anything else. On the other hand, every conservative conversation goes straight to talking about sexual predators and protecting families; starting every argument with a statement saying they don't even care if tranny's use the restroom or not. Can anyone guess which argument the vast majority of Americans relate to more? And we're talking about a time when parents won't even let their children walk home from school. Obama is guaranteeing an election massacre by making this a core issue. and yet the one admitted nc resident here asks if the gov will be reelected after this debacle. I suspect not. the major effect here is making nc look backwards. not a good thing when it is trying to become a science and technology hub. on a national level, I doubt it makes a significant difference people who support this law were already conservatives and probably extreme right wingers for the most part. this debate won't change them or the more moderate voters. it's just not important enough to anyone's daily life.
keepthefaith Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 The liberals are focusing solely on the transgender issue. In every media outlet condemning North Carolina (whether it be MSNBC, or Youtube) they refuse to mention anything else. On the other hand, every conservative conversation goes straight to talking about sexual predators and protecting families; starting every argument with a statement saying they don't even care if tranny's use the restroom or not. Can anyone guess which argument the vast majority of Americans relate to more? And we're talking about a time when parents won't even let their children walk home from school. Obama is guaranteeing an election massacre by making this a core issue. Yup, another distraction from $19T in debt, underfunded entitlements, illegal immigration, national security and a sluggish economy.
boyst Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 and yet the one admitted nc resident here asks if the gov will be reelected after this debacle. I suspect not. the major effect here is making nc look backwards. not a good thing when it is trying to become a science and technology hub. on a national level, I doubt it makes a significant difference people who support this law were already conservatives and probably extreme right wingers for the most part. this debate won't change them or the more moderate voters. it's just not important enough to anyone's daily life. i have asked that, because i'm not sure he can be... too much money coming in trying to make him look bad. it's pathetic. this was a bipartisan law created in response to a problem started by Charlotte/Mecklenburg. they don't remind people of that, they don't tell people their local reps and senators and politicians galore support this bill. yet, over the last two weeks, slowly but shirely, it's coming back to mccrory's side. as obama continued to push his agenda to show how bigoted the democratic party is people are seeing it. it started with the issue that other states were boycotting us - !@#$ dem yankee sonbitches. then the federal government was once again going to tell us what to do in the south - dey took'er freedoms! then they said they were going to take our school funding - dey took'er books! then they said they were going to in effect make us stop playing extra curriculars - dey took'er balls! then they said they were going to make the entire country use bathrooms the same way - dat dum ass n... gon' done too far! seriously, anyone who sees this swinging back to the democratic party's favor is a moron or named birddog. mccrory is going to stand pat and based upon his reputation he will do everythign he can to hold on to this. whats !@#$ing sad is our own attorney general - one !@#$ing moron, if you ask me, roy cooper is urging businesses to boycot north carolina, saying that until we change this law they should consider north carolina closed for business. those sound bites will really come back to bite him in the ass this november. it's hilarious, too. he had been waiting in the wings for over a decade waiting to get the Gov nod and it comes at this time. what a !@#$ing schmuck who needs a kick in his balls to make him a woman.
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