Liberal Protests

[Hedge]

12 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

S-O-R-O-S

 

 

 

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Holly Zoller, a member of the George Soros-funded “The Bail Project,” is the woman responsible for bringing a U-Haul truck filled with riot shields, umbrellas, and other gear for the street criminals, aiding and abetting rioters in the city of Louisville. Members of The Bail Project are closely tied to infamous financier and nation-wrecker George Soros.

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A clever anonymous caller pretending to be U-Haul called her and got her to admit to bringing supplies to the illegal riot taking place in the Kentucky city today. The truck contained shields, masks, goggles, and other riot gear.

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Holly Zoller delivers riot gear, rioters do riot things and get arrested using her supplies, and her organization helps them get bailed out.

 

 

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Hedge

[Hedge]

 

 

[whatdrought]

3 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

What a B word. 

[BillStime]

#PutinProud

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Wacka]

One of these days, someone is going to be armed and start opening fire.

[Taro T]

5 minutes ago, Wacka said:

One of these days, someone is going to be armed and start opening fire.

 

Sadly, really expect that is what the organizers of these events are hoping for.

 

Pretty sure they're actually disappointed that they've only gotten their own shot by "the other side" in Kenosha to date.

[DFT]

3 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

Sadly, really expect that is what the organizers of these events are hoping for.

 

Pretty sure they're actually disappointed that they've only gotten their own shot by "the other side" in Kenosha to date.

Agreed.  They’re instigators.  They take the broken, mentally unstable and lost and give them a cause.  They pay them in hopes they’ll become a martyr.  That’s what this seems to be about.  Getting these kids who have no idea what they’re getting themselves into, close enough to the flame.  
 

 

A pawn never knows how disposable they truly are when measured against the greater objective - winning.

[GG]

Just now, DFT said:

Agreed.  They’re instigators.  They take the broken, mentally unstable and lost and give them a cause.  They pay them in hopes they’ll become a martyr.  That’s what this seems to be about.  Getting these kids who have no idea what they’re getting themselves into, close enough to the flame.  
 

 

A pawn never knows how disposable they truly are when measured against the greater objective - winning.

 

The profile of the ricin lady, the Oregon shooter and the shot Kenosha protesters certainly fit this description.

[Alaska Darin]

12 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

What was the point since you think I missed it. You stated there was a "Big difference between serving a warrant and an imminent danger situation." They served a warrant (and foolishly knocked) so the guy started shooting. That is imminent danger. They shot back.

They CHOSE to serve a warrant at 0100 in the morning in a populated apartment building.  There are a million ways to arrest someone without possibly initiating an armed confrontation in a densely populated building where it is GUARANTEED the majority of residents will be at home.

 

I said nothing whatsoever about the officers returning fire - they were certainly well within their rights to defend themselves.  The question for me has VERY OBVIOUSLY been whether or not they should have served this warrant, in this manner, in the first place.

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said:

They CHOSE to serve a warrant at 0100 in the morning in a populated apartment building.  There are a million ways to arrest someone without possibly initiating an armed confrontation in a densely populated building where it is GUARANTEED the majority of residents will be at home.

 

I said nothing whatsoever about the officers returning fire - they were certainly well within their rights to defend themselves.  The question for me has VERY OBVIOUSLY been whether or not they should have served this warrant, in this manner, in the first place.

Is it generally safer to serve a warrant on a drug dealer at 1am or 3 am  versus 10am, noon, 2pm?

 "There are a million ways to arrest someone without possibly initiating an armed confrontation in a densely populated building where it is GUARANTEED the majority of residents will be at home." On a drug dealer?  Was the man generally armed? Did he frequently use human shields? Did he have body guards willing to shoot? 

As I said, I am not LEO. If you are, especially if you are in drug enforcement, it would be helpful to know how and when they could have served this warrant that there would be an absolute guarantee that the drug dealer would not start shooting. Perhaps a middle of the night no-knock where they actually do not knock?
 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[B-Man]

Suspect ID’d as Man Who Shot Two Louisville Police Officers Taken Into Custody

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

That is a very nice strip in St. Pete. Hubby and I would like to vacation there again soon.  We stayed at the Vinoy (Marriott) last year. Inside the hotel is a history of what the area looked like, and how it has been rebuilt. A lot of time, energy, effort, and money have gone into making that waterfront strip safe, walkable, and high(er) end.  The last thing that area needs is to become lawless. I am surprised the police were not on them to disburse that crowd immediately. 
 

[B-Man]

ROGER SIMON: Bullets over Louisville.

I thought back to my days as a sixties anti-war protestor, being caught up in the crowds yelling “Off the pig!” The joke then was what we would do if someone broke into our apartments with no cops available. “Call a hippie!” was the supposedly jocular response.

 

In truth, in those days few of us thought badly of the police (with the exception, of course, of the extremist Kathy Boudin/Weather Underground-types who killed them). It was all kind of a game to us, stupid, juvenile and pointless as it was, not to mention politically reactionary. The police were and are the working class, not the privileged college kids then attacking them.

 

Today, things are very different and multiple times worse, making the sixties indeed seem like child’s play.

 

As I type this, yet another cop is reported as being shot in Louisville, making two, the same number as were shot just the other day in L.A., with no one apprehended.

 

All this after it was made clear that in the Breonna Taylor case, the one all the Louisville madness is supposed to be about, the police did not break in on her apartment with a “no-knock” entry, and her drug-dealer boyfriend they were seeking admittedly opened fire first. And yet a cop, who was defending an already wounded buddy, got indicted. Go figure.

 

Basta.

The time has come to say clearly what many of us have muttered for a long time:

 

BLM… the Marxist-led Black Lives Matter… is the modern version of the KKK. The skin colors may be different but the murderous instincts and racist loathing are the same.

So, the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party, to coin a phrase?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

 

[Alaska Darin]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Is it generally safer to serve a warrant on a drug dealer at 1am or 3 am  versus 10am, noon, 2pm?

 "There are a million ways to arrest someone without possibly initiating an armed confrontation in a densely populated building where it is GUARANTEED the majority of residents will be at home." On a drug dealer?  Was the man generally armed? Did he frequently use human shields? Did he have body guards willing to shoot? 

As I said, I am not LEO. If you are, especially if you are in drug enforcement, it would be helpful to know how and when they could have served this warrant that there would be an absolute guarantee that the drug dealer would not start shooting. Perhaps a middle of the night no-knock where they actually do not knock?
 

Obviously you're not in law enforcement.

 

Reality check:  In order to obtain a warrant, you have to have probable cause.  In this instance, they had multiple times surveilled this perp and had patterns, which were in the warrant documentation. 

 

Patterns are the key.  If you have patterns, you can chose your arrest point based on them.  It's "generally" much easier to simply traffic stop or catch them as they leave the apartment building in a more controlled situation.  What they "decided" on was (seemingly) a fundamentally more risky course of action and it ended up with multiple high velocity rounds being sprayed around in a populated apartment complex.  It's stupid, lazy, and put a large number of innocent people in unnecessary danger. 

 

These senseless tactical decisions are the reason why inexperienced and stupid politicians feel the need to constantly tie cop's hands.

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said:

Obviously you're not in law enforcement.

 

Reality check:  In order to obtain a warrant, you have to have probable cause.  In this instance, they had multiple times surveilled this perp and had patterns, which were in the warrant documentation. 

 

Patterns are the key.  If you have patterns, you can chose your arrest point based on them.  It's "generally" much easier to simply traffic stop or catch them as they leave the apartment building in a more controlled situation.  What they "decided" on was (seemingly) a fundamentally more risky course of action and it ended up with multiple high velocity rounds being sprayed around in a populated apartment complex.  It's stupid, lazy, and put a large number of innocent people in unnecessary danger. 

 

These senseless tactical decisions are the reason why inexperienced and stupid politicians feel the need to constantly tie cop's hands.

 

 

Are you in law enforcement?

 

[Alaska Darin]

Just now, Buffalo_Gal said:

Are you in law enforcement?

 

Not anymore.