Deranged Rhino Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: It's insulting because it makes the assumption that African Americans are mindless cogs in the Democratic machine. If conservatives ever bother to actually make inroads with black voters they'd be wise to avoid that patronizing talking point. Isn't it more insulting to realize that assumption is in fact reality -- according to the white leaders at the top of the DNC pyramid? "If you aren't voting for me, you ain't black!" was just a few weeks ago. Then there's decades of pop culture reinforcement of the idea that blacks must vote democrat (hell, there were jokes about this in Martin when I was growing up). There's only one party right now that operates with actual purity tests -- and it isn't the conservatives. Have you ever heard a liberal talk to a black conservative in person? I have, many times. The most racist, vile, disgusting things I've ever heard a white person say to a person of color in my life didn't happen in the South or a conservative rally. It happened in Boston and LA and came from liberals berrating others for daring to think for themselves. The DNC only cares about black people every four years for their vote. Then they move on, and do nothing for their community. And in the past several election cycles when the demographics showed Latinos were going to be the new minority/majority, the DNC abandoned the black voters in order to pander to that growing demo even though the policies they proposed would gut the black community first. That's not assumption. That's historical fact. 4 1
Doc Brown Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Nanker said: What’s truly insulting is the left’s condescending attitude toward blacks and the bigotry they display constantly with their low expectations of those citizens. You might have missed it, but Trump has made inroads in the black community because he speaks with them as individuals who he knows he can help - not with more government handouts, but with jobs and opportunities to engage in enterprise. Trump's done more than most Republicans ever bothered to do. I'll grant you that. 1
IDBillzFan Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Nanker said: What’s truly insulting is the left’s condescending attitude toward blacks and the bigotry they display constantly with their low expectations of those citizens. You hear even the leftists here explain that all the people of color who spoke at the convention were 'props.' What they're saying is these people of color who refused to get on board with the left are too stupid to realize they were being used.
Koko78 Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: I don't think it has any teeth, but it sure made Cuomo go full Biden yesterday, telling Trump he can't promise he'll be safe if he ever comes to NY. Wonder if that got Il Douche a visit from the Secret Service. 1
Foxx Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1301725054095351808 https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1301646233233010689 3
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1301725054095351808 https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1301646233233010689 ...oh well............
Foxx Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...oh well............ Antifa Lives Matter!!
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Prof. Norman poses an interesting question. And he might be onto something. I think he's one step away from becoming cognizant of the idea that white liberals are "playing" the black community purely for their own objectives. But on the other hand, if liberals, social justice warriors, wokesters, and assorted victims believe a person can select the gender they "identify" with then by extension why can't they select their racial identity? How can any enlightened person object or refuse someone that "right"? The other reason liberals are currently hot and heavy to associate with blacks is it simply suits their political needs at the current time. Most of them are pretty well off white people that have nothing much to gain by helping disadvantaged citizens. And do black activists really have any desire to differentiate between "good" white liberals and "bad" white conservatives. Based on things like Critical Race Theory that defines most of what is going on with the BLM organization's hard core members all white people are inherently bad. For now the liberals are playing along with the "systemic racism" theory because Trump is president. Their thinking goes like this, Trump was elected president in Nov. 2016, Trump is a racist, America elected Trump, America is racist, if Biden wins America is no longer racist. There's no analytics, or data, or statistics validation behind it all. Its all pure and simple politics. Edited September 4, 2020 by All_Pro_Bills 1
Westside Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Trump's done more than most Republicans ever bothered to do. I'll grant you that. He's done more than any democrat has promised to do. The left is the party of hate. I think the black population is starting to see the Democrats for what they truly are. A bunch of hateful, racist people. 2
GOBUFFALO716 Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 “Y’all called Trayvon Martin a criminal and said he shouldn’t have fought back. Y’all said he shouldn’t have been out that late...in his parent’s ***** neighborhood. Y’all called him a thug. Y’all said Tamir Rice shouldn’t have been playing with a toy gun. Y’all said he shouldn’t have been at the park alone...forgetting that MOST of OUR childhoods were spent playing in various places without adult supervision. Y’all said Ahmaud Arbery shouldn’t have been in that neighborhood, shouldn’t have been in the construction site. Y’all said he should have complied with the men who literally ran him down like a dog and murdered him in the street. Y’all said Breonna Taylor shouldn’t have known the man that police were looking for, the same man they already had. Y’all said her boyfriend shouldn’t have fired shots after their door was busted down in the middle of the night with no indication who was coming into their house. Y’all said Amber Guyger was justifiably scared when she went into the wrong apartment and murdered Botham Jean. Y’all said George Floyd deserved to die for past crimes that he already served his sentences for. Y’all said Philando Castile shouldn’t have had the gun that he legally purchased, carried, and informed the officer of when that officer told him to reach for his ID and then murdered him. When the Central Park 5 maintained their innocence, y’all said they were obviously guilty. When the man who would become the President demanded they remain in jail AFTER they were exonerated, y’all applauded him. Every time a black man, woman, or child dies at the hand of some B word trigger happy cop or some ####### piece of ***** white person, y’all will extrapolate, insinuate, and justify as much as you can why that person should be dead. Y’all will place the blame on the victim and exonerate the murderer. But when a 17 year old kid crosses state lines with a weapon he is not legal to possess, intentionally places himself within the protest, shoots someone, runs away, and then shoots two more people who attempted to subdue him for shooting the first person, then walks calmly right by police, and goes back home to another state after taking someone’s life, y’all call him a hero. Y’all say he did nothing wrong. Y’all say it was self defense. Even though HE illegally crossed state lines with a weapon, even though HE intentionally went looking for trouble, even though HE fully intended to pull the trigger, y’all are willing to defend him. Y’all never said he should have complied with the people chasing him, like you said about Ahmaud Arbery. Y’all never said he shouldn’t have been there, like you did about Tamir Rice and Trayvon Martin. Y’all never said he shouldn’t have had a gun, like you did about Philando Castile. This is why we say Black Lives Matter. This is why we take to the street and demand accountability. We never said other lives didn’t also matter. We said our lives don’t matter to you. Because they don’t. Y’all prove that every day. Y’all reinforce it every time you defend a murderer. Y’all make it widely known that when the black life is lost, they somehow deserved it. Y’all are quick to invoke abortion, but you don’t even care about the black lives that are already here, standing right next to you, let alone the ones yet to be born into a society that applauds the murder of black lives. All my life, I have had to watch black men and women be profiled, harassed, beaten, unjustly arrested/incarcerated, and murdered, much of it on live tv. I have had to listen to/see white people all around me justify the continuous murder of black lives at the hand of callous and cowardly white people, police and civilian alike. I have had to restrain myself when I’m told that we should just comply, because y’all refuse to see and understand that whether we are innocent or guilty, whether we comply or not, our lives are forfeit and we are condemned. Our blackness is an automatic target from the day we are born. And yet we are regularly told how much America has changed. We are regularly told how racism isn’t that big a problem...while actively being subjected to it. We are regularly told, by people who have never experienced it, who have never been subjected to it, who have never had to fight against it, that it isn’t real. And then we are told to trust and respect the same people who display it against us. We are supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. We are supposed to have the right to due process. But the repeated murders of unarmed black lives by police and the subsequent justification in the court of public opinion proves that we are not privy to those rights. Kyle Rittenhouse will live to see his trial. He will be protected. He will get adequate legal defense for the crimes he stands accused of. Eric Garner didn’t. George Floyd didn’t. Philando Castile didn’t. Sandra bland didn’t. So many others didn’t. Too many others didn’t. Many more wont. If you have never had to discuss with the mother of your mixed child how sadly glad you are that your son has more of her physical features than your own, so that he will not have that target on his back in this society, then you have zero room to speak to me on racial issues. I do not say this for debate. I will not debate it. I will not answer any ignorant ass questions demanding an explanation of my words or experiences. They are clear enough and if you cannot understand them, then you are part of the problem. I will not expend what little energy I have left repeatedly explaining the same things over and over again to people who only seek to discredit black lives. We fought a whole civil war and had a whole civil rights movement and the sad fact of the matter is that this country is the same as it ever was. It just hides its true face better.” 2
Reality Check Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: “Y’all called Trayvon Martin a criminal and said he shouldn’t have fought back. Y’all said he shouldn’t have been out that late...in his parent’s ***** neighborhood. Y’all called him a thug. Y’all said Tamir Rice shouldn’t have been playing with a toy gun. Y’all said he shouldn’t have been at the park alone...forgetting that MOST of OUR childhoods were spent playing in various places without adult supervision. Y’all said Ahmaud Arbery shouldn’t have been in that neighborhood, shouldn’t have been in the construction site. Y’all said he should have complied with the men who literally ran him down like a dog and murdered him in the street. Y’all said Breonna Taylor shouldn’t have known the man that police were looking for, the same man they already had. Y’all said her boyfriend shouldn’t have fired shots after their door was busted down in the middle of the night with no indication who was coming into their house. Y’all said Amber Guyger was justifiably scared when she went into the wrong apartment and murdered Botham Jean. Y’all said George Floyd deserved to die for past crimes that he already served his sentences for. Y’all said Philando Castile shouldn’t have had the gun that he legally purchased, carried, and informed the officer of when that officer told him to reach for his ID and then murdered him. When the Central Park 5 maintained their innocence, y’all said they were obviously guilty. When the man who would become the President demanded they remain in jail AFTER they were exonerated, y’all applauded him. Every time a black man, woman, or child dies at the hand of some B word trigger happy cop or some ####### piece of ***** white person, y’all will extrapolate, insinuate, and justify as much as you can why that person should be dead. Y’all will place the blame on the victim and exonerate the murderer. But when a 17 year old kid crosses state lines with a weapon he is not legal to possess, intentionally places himself within the protest, shoots someone, runs away, and then shoots two more people who attempted to subdue him for shooting the first person, then walks calmly right by police, and goes back home to another state after taking someone’s life, y’all call him a hero. Y’all say he did nothing wrong. Y’all say it was self defense. Even though HE illegally crossed state lines with a weapon, even though HE intentionally went looking for trouble, even though HE fully intended to pull the trigger, y’all are willing to defend him. Y’all never said he should have complied with the people chasing him, like you said about Ahmaud Arbery. Y’all never said he shouldn’t have been there, like you did about Tamir Rice and Trayvon Martin. Y’all never said he shouldn’t have had a gun, like you did about Philando Castile. This is why we say Black Lives Matter. This is why we take to the street and demand accountability. We never said other lives didn’t also matter. We said our lives don’t matter to you. Because they don’t. Y’all prove that every day. Y’all reinforce it every time you defend a murderer. Y’all make it widely known that when the black life is lost, they somehow deserved it. Y’all are quick to invoke abortion, but you don’t even care about the black lives that are already here, standing right next to you, let alone the ones yet to be born into a society that applauds the murder of black lives. All my life, I have had to watch black men and women be profiled, harassed, beaten, unjustly arrested/incarcerated, and murdered, much of it on live tv. I have had to listen to/see white people all around me justify the continuous murder of black lives at the hand of callous and cowardly white people, police and civilian alike. I have had to restrain myself when I’m told that we should just comply, because y’all refuse to see and understand that whether we are innocent or guilty, whether we comply or not, our lives are forfeit and we are condemned. Our blackness is an automatic target from the day we are born. And yet we are regularly told how much America has changed. We are regularly told how racism isn’t that big a problem...while actively being subjected to it. We are regularly told, by people who have never experienced it, who have never been subjected to it, who have never had to fight against it, that it isn’t real. And then we are told to trust and respect the same people who display it against us. We are supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. We are supposed to have the right to due process. But the repeated murders of unarmed black lives by police and the subsequent justification in the court of public opinion proves that we are not privy to those rights. Kyle Rittenhouse will live to see his trial. He will be protected. He will get adequate legal defense for the crimes he stands accused of. Eric Garner didn’t. George Floyd didn’t. Philando Castile didn’t. Sandra bland didn’t. So many others didn’t. Too many others didn’t. Many more wont. If you have never had to discuss with the mother of your mixed child how sadly glad you are that your son has more of her physical features than your own, so that he will not have that target on his back in this society, then you have zero room to speak to me on racial issues. I do not say this for debate. I will not debate it. I will not answer any ignorant ass questions demanding an explanation of my words or experiences. They are clear enough and if you cannot understand them, then you are part of the problem. I will not expend what little energy I have left repeatedly explaining the same things over and over again to people who only seek to discredit black lives. 1 minute ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: We fought a whole civil war and had a whole civil rights movement and the sad fact of the matter is that this country is the same as it ever was. It just hides its true face better.” I hate America!
SoCal Deek Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Yikes there’s a lot of hate on here. We all have a choice in this world, every day. Some appear to be choosing the lazy road of blaming their current station on other totally unrelated strangers around them. Now they’ve even taken to riding in a fictional time machine to blot out the last 100 years of progress. It’s a sad way to go through life for sure. 2
GOBUFFALO716 Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reality Check said: y’all don’t like facts 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: y’all don’t like facts Do you know what y'all means? And while we're at it, could you define facts? We'll hold that one for a bit later. 1
Reality Check Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: y’all don’t like commies. 1
GOBUFFALO716 Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Do you know what y'all means? And while we're at it, could you define facts? We'll hold that one for a bit later. what y’all problem 2 minutes ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: what y’all problem such a loser and a sucker right y’all!? 1 1
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