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When trying to identify and solve problems while having a constructive conversation, it's always enlightening to bring out the ladder of accountability.  It identifies problem solving tactics and behaviors by individuals in the discussion.  Until the group starts operating in the top half of the ladder, nothing constructive ever occurs.  Ask yourself where you are on this ladder.  Not Trump or Pelosi or the Left or the Right.  Are you always blaming others at the bottom of the rung or have you acknowledged the problem and have started owning it.   

 

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5 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

you deeply stupid people didn't think you could keep this bull^%$# going forever?

or did you

Are you talking to the trump hoaxers?  I think they did plan on keeping things going after the virus saw the stars and bars and magically disappeared.  
 

vrius, 1.  Equality, 1.  Trump hoaxers, 0. 

3 hours ago, The Guy In Pants said:


Most of them don’t care about laws. They make them up as they go along. They redefine words, create made up genders, are victims all of the time. They blame everyone else for their problems, refuse to accept responsibility for their actions and routinely choose emotion over rationale.

I agree that Trumpers do not believe in the rule of law.  Well said. 

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13 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

I agree that Trumpers do not believe in the rule of law.  Well said. 


Trumpers do not believe in the rule of law??  
 

I take it....

 

1.  You’ve never lived in a Uber liberal area like San Francisco 

 

and

 

2.  You’re not paying attention to what’s currently going on in Portland. 

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8 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

Has anyone ever heard of conservatives rioting, looting, burning in city after city?


GOPigs just loot in DC. Just look at Trumps tax scam and all the looting with those generous PPP loans. 

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18 minutes ago, BillStime said:


GOPigs just loot in DC. Just look at Trumps tax scam and all the looting with those generous PPP loans. 


Explain this tax scam. 
 

Oh and he asked about conservatives not the GOP. 
 

 

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Has socialism / marxism ever actually worked? In the entire history of the world? I know it’s been tried many times... what’s Karl Marx’s batting average?

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53 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Has socialism / marxism ever actually worked? In the entire history of the world? I know it’s been tried many times... what’s Karl Marx’s batting average?

 

.200 below the Mendoza line

 

But it would work perfectly if human nature wasn't so darn human nature-y.

 

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10 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


Trumpers do not believe in the rule of law??  
 

I take it....

 

1.  You’ve never lived in a Uber liberal area like San Francisco 

 

and

 

2.  You’re not paying attention to what’s currently going on in Portland. 

I live in Buffalo.  I saw the stone commutation.  The manafort  jury tampering.  The Flynn comments.  The border wall seizure.  The absolute authority comment.  The emoluments clause violations.  And that’s just off the top of my head. 

10 hours ago, bilzfancy said:

Has anyone ever heard of conservatives rioting, looting, burning in city after city?

Nah.  They’re too busy running up deficits and trampling the constitution to do that. 

8 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Has socialism / marxism ever actually worked? In the entire history of the world? I know it’s been tried many times... what’s Karl Marx’s batting average?

About the same as fascism.  So hopefully trump is on the way out. 

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11 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I live in Buffalo.  I saw the stone commutation.  The manafort  jury tampering.  The Flynn comments.  The border wall seizure.  The absolute authority comment.  The emoluments clause violations.  And that’s just off the top of my head. 

Nah.  They’re too busy running up deficits and trampling the constitution to do that. 

About the same as fascism.  So hopefully trump is on the way out. 

I guess you forgot Obama commuting over 2,500, many murderers, drug dealers, let alone all the terrorists he let out of Gitmo. Speaking of deficits, the Ayatollah increased the debt more then every other president before him combined, and no other president wiped their butt in the Constitution more then Obama.

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1 minute ago, bilzfancy said:

I guess you forgot Obama commuting over 2,500, many murderers, drug dealers, let alone all the terrorists he let out of Gitmo. Speaking of deficits, the Ayatollah increased the debt more then every other president before him combined, and no other president wiped their butt in the Constitution more then Obama.

 

BUT OBAMA!!!!!!

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3 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

BUT OBAMA!!!!!!

Can't dispute any of it, can you? Did Trump's AG run arms to Mexican drug cartels? Was it Trump who watched an American embassy get attacked and did nothing? I could go on and on about that globalist douchebag.

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1 minute ago, bilzfancy said:

Can't dispute any of it, can you? Did Trump's AG run arms to Mexican drug cartels? Was it Trump who watched an American embassy get attacked and did nothing? I could go on and on about that globalist douchebag.

 

Please go on and on about that globalist douchebag. It's pretty entertaining.

 

It has nothing to do with what Trump is doing now, though, as much as you want it to.

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20 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Please go on and on about that globalist douchebag. It's pretty entertaining.

 

It has nothing to do with what Trump is doing now, though, as much as you want it to.

Just trying to show you that your hero isn't the great American president you think he is, all Trump is trying to do is bring law and order to riot torn democratic cities, by the way, why haven't you or your liberal pals denounced what's been going on there?

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