Needle Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: what the actual ***** is wrong with you. like honestly how dumb can you people get???? so you are against better education for your children/grandchildren? the american education system is totally broken, but yes lets keep funding police millions on millions for what exactly? Why do you want police to be so over funded? you have not answered this question yet and I'm waiting. The education system is not totally broken.
Penfield45 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Needle said: The education system is not totally broken. when teachers are buying their own supplies and kids are being denied lunch bc they can't afford it, yes...it is.
Needle Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, Penfield45 said: when teachers are buying their own supplies and kids are being denied lunch bc they can't afford it, yes...it is. I would agree that in some communities the education system is failing but it is more attributed to the parents. My neighbors are City of Rochester teachers and they get nothing from parents. 120 students and maybe 1 or 2 parents show up to parent teacher meetings, no call backs, no emails answered, no shows by students, etc. It's not for lack of erasers that the school is failing. As far as the lunches go, I know that the schools were delivering meals by bus during the coronavirus portion of the school year. Kids were getting meals everyday. A math teacher at one of the city high schools sent out an assignment to his classes and got like 5 responses. It is a cultural issue. 1
meazza Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: the funny part is you trump supporters think those liberal mayors and governors are on our side, but they aren't. we are against them too. there needs to be a complete shake up of the political party in america and we will get there eventually .step 1 is to remove trump out of office. its almost 2021 and we still have a 2 party system in america, its a complete joke. As soon as trump is voted out of office, the media narrative will change and these kinds of policies will lose support. 4
BillStime Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, B-Man said: It worked so well in 2016 ? What seems to me to be bigger news than Colin Powell’s endorsement of Joe Biden is the way he calls out Republican senators and others who normalize the president’s actions. This focus on other elected officials is an increasing part of the anti-Trump movement.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: first of all, defending police does not mean they go away, how do you not understand this? i means not giving them billions of dollars to spend when they absolutely have no use for that money, and we need to pay them less. put that money towards education and infrastructure in towns/cities. your precious cops aren't going anywhere calm the f down Typical dishonest argument: "The word we're using doesn't mean what you think it means -- and even though half the people shouting 'DEFUND' the police mean exactly that, I don't and you're dumb for not understanding!" That's how you know they've lost. 2
Just Joshin' Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: what the actual ***** is wrong with you. like honestly how dumb can you people get???? so you are against better education for your children/grandchildren? the american education system is totally broken, but yes lets keep funding police millions on millions for what exactly? Why do you want police to be so over funded? you have not answered this question yet and I'm waiting. I don't believe anyone is anti-education. Society benefits from a well education population. We can also agree that it is broken. The US spends more on education with less results. Yes, broken. Now why is it broken? The liberal policies of the last 50 years have not improved the outcomes. So you are advocating changing those policies - again we can agree. Other than spend $, what do you recommend? Let me start - I was on a school board (unpaid) for 10 years with 6 as VP or President. First thing I would change is the regulations that are imposed on districts with no benefit to the educational result. These are not student oriented but in fact hurt the children. Simplify and give the control back to the local communities to tailor a program that meets those needs. What works in a rural district will not work in a suburban or urban district. OK - your turn. 3
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, meazza said: As soon as trump is voted out of office, the media narrative will change and these kinds of policies will lose support. The proof is in the candidate they're choosing to run. Biden has been in office over 40 years, he was the author of the Crime Bill -- the bill that did more to tilt the system against poor, black, and brown people than any other piece of legislation since Reconstruction. He's the architect of the "systemic racism and injustice" they are decrying in our system. And now, after two weeks of screaming to the heavens about this problem, the DNC expects the same people to just forget that truth about Joe and turn up to vote for him? Nah. Won't work. But it shows just how disingenuous many people's outrage is. Anyone who's outraged over this topic who is still supporting Biden for president is either deeply stupid, deeply dishonest -- or such a partisan that they've abandoned all pretense of intelligence or honesty. 4
BillStime Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Typical dishonest argument: "The word we're using doesn't mean what you think it means -- and even though half the people shouting 'DEFUND' the police mean exactly that, I don't and you're dumb for not understanding!" That's how you know they've lost. dishonest.. lost... it’s a game for you
Doc Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: the funny part is you trump supporters think those liberal mayors and governors are on our side, but they aren't. we are against them too. there needs to be a complete shake up of the political party in america and we will get there eventually .step 1 is to remove trump out of office. Then who do you support? And do not tell me AOC. 9 minutes ago, Needle said: I would agree that in some communities the education system is failing but it is more attributed to the parents. My neighbors are City of Rochester teachers and they get nothing from parents. 120 students and maybe 1 or 2 parents show up to parent teacher meetings, no call backs, no emails answered, no shows by students, etc. It's not for lack of erasers that the school is failing. As far as the lunches go, I know that the schools were delivering meals by bus during the coronavirus portion of the school year. Kids were getting meals everyday. A math teacher at one of the city high schools sent out an assignment to his classes and got like 5 responses. It is a cultural issue. There are about a dozen black kids from Hartford who are bused into our (excellent) public school. The vast majority don't care to be there and learn.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: New title for 2016-2020 POTUS: Moron in Chief The commander in chief made a demand and it was defied without consequence? Sounds more like a request.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: The commander in chief made a demand and it was defied without consequence? Sounds more like a request. It's also fake news: But Tibs never let that stop him from falling for a story before, why start now? 1
Needle Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Then who do you support? And do not tell me AOC. There are about a dozen black kids from Hartford who are bused into our (excellent) public school. The vast majority don't care to be there and learn. To further the point, 1st generation immigrants in the same city school districts have had success. Kids that come from very different parts of the world and have language barriers. 1
Just Joshin' Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Just when you think he could get no worse........ 3
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, Just Joshin' said: Just when you think he could get no worse........ I don't even know when he's up for re-election, but the city hated him before this. He's going to have to flee at some point when he loses.
Numark3 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Shifting some funding isn’t that bad of an idea... Edited June 7, 2020 by Crayola64
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Just when you think he could get no worse........ ...the poster boy for relaxed mental hygiene.......
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: first of all, defending police does not mean they go away, how do you not understand this? i means not giving them billions of dollars to spend when they absolutely have no use for that money, and we need to pay them less. put that money towards education and infrastructure in towns/cities. your precious cops aren't going anywhere calm the f down First of all, defunding Planned Parenthood does not mean they go away. How do you not understand this? It means not giving them billions of dollars to spend when they have absolutely no use for that money (since a lot of it gets donated back to Democrat candidate races), and we need to pay them less. Put that money towards education and infrastructure in towns/cities. Your precious facilities aren't going anywhere, calm the F down. How does that sit? 4 1 2
meazza Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Shifting some funding isn’t that bad of an idea... It shouldn’t be shifted it should be done in parallel.
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