Liberal Protests

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Personally I feel they have, for the most part, exercised incredible restraint under the circumstances. 

But the expectation should be for all cops to be perfect at all times or else it proves a corrupt system in need of communization.

[Nelius]

Just now, Reality Check said:

So you are saying it isn't fascism now?

 

Ah man, ya got me.  I'm beyond frustrated at our current situation and sickened by that video of Buffalo, and am waffling between fascism and almost fascism. Micro-victory for you.

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Personally I feel they have, for the most part, exercised incredible restraint under the circumstances. 

I was there tonight. It was a bad brew on both sides.  Camo officers staged out of sight behind the city court building about three hours before that happened.  Protestors were an eclectic bunch.  Cops I talked to seemed pissed off to be there.  It was easy to tell something unfortunate would happen. 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, Reality Check said:

So you are saying it isn't fascism now?

Correct. But it’s getting real close. We’ll be keeping an eye on the Nelius Fasc-O-Meter folks and keep you posted. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 minutes ago, Magox said:

This is how intellectually bankrupt the left is.

 

Who is defending the actions of those 2 cops?  It’s inexcusable and they should be charged with some sort of criminal charges.   The left wants to create these bogeymen out of the police.  People are people, whether they are lawyers, doctors, janitors or police officers, you have good and bad people.   I happen to find police officers in general to be very honorable and brave. They risk their lives so #######s on message boards can cry “fascism” when they truly don’t understand the word fascism as it’s the buzzword du jour.   

 

One cannot possibly and reasonably make such a charge without knowing the assailant.   
 

 

I asked in the Buffalo thread, but maybe here will get an answer..

 

What would you expect them to be charged with?

 

He approached them, they told him to get away, he still approached, they pushed, he stumbled backwards and fell.

 

Leaving him there bleeding is where they were wrong, in my opinion. And the one cop pushing the other cop away was terrible. But, maybe neither were trained to help and the national guard guys were trained to help?
 

I will be curious what the law enforcement guys here will think of the incident, and what they think charges, if any, should be.

[Reality Check]

Just now, Nelius said:

 

Ah man, ya got me.  I'm beyond frustrated at our current situation and sickened by that video of Buffalo, and am waffling between fascism and almost fascism. Micro-victory for you.

I am simply asking for clarification. It is police brutality in my book. The rest of your verbiage was a bit emotional and I wasn't quite getting it.

[Nelius]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Correct. But it’s getting real close. We’ll be keeping an eye on the Nelius Fasc-O-Meter folks and keep you posted. 

 

It's all going to go back to normal guys. It was a perfect system with no need for change whatsoever. We'll be enjoying water parks and having office happy hours again in no time.

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

Ah man, ya got me.  I'm beyond frustrated at our current situation and sickened by that video of Buffalo, and am waffling between fascism and almost fascism. Micro-victory for you.

I’d go with Facist-lite. ?

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I was there tonight. It was a bad brew on both sides.  Camo officers staged out of sight behind the city court building about three hours before that happened.  Protestors were an eclectic bunch.  Cops I talked to seemed pissed off to be there.  It was easy to tell something unfortunate would happen. 

Does eclectic mean Starbuck's swizzling pajama boy commies?

Edited June 5, 2020 by 4merper4mer

[Nelius]

Just now, Reality Check said:

I am simply asking for clarification. It is police brutality in my book. The rest of your verbiage was a bit emotional and I wasn't quite getting it.

 

It was emotional, I'll admit it. No, it's not actual fascism. Let's move on.

[Reality Check]

Just now, Nelius said:

 

It was emotional, I'll admit it. No, it's not actual fascism. Let's move on.

Fair enough. 

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I was there tonight. It was a bad brew on both sides.  Camo officers staged out of sight behind the city court building about three hours before that happened.  Protestors were an eclectic bunch.  Cops I talked to seemed pissed off to be there.  It was easy to tell something unfortunate would happen. 

And these situations often turn bad. 
 

And to play devil’s advocate. These cops were amped up. The guy approached the cop and reached out to him. Sorry old man. Not very smart. 

[SectionC3]

4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Does eclectic mean Starbuck's swizzling pajama boy commies?

No.  It also doesn’t mean  Trumpian fascists.  Somewhere in between. 

Edited June 5, 2020 by SectionC3

[Magox]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I asked in the Buffalo thread, but maybe here will get an answer..

 

What would you expect them to be charged with?

 

He approached them, they told him to get away, he still approached, they pushed, he stumbled backwards and fell.

 

Leaving him there bleeding is where they were wrong, in my opinion. And the one cop pushing the other cop away was terrible. But, maybe neither were trained to help and the national guard guys were trained to help?
 

I will be curious what the law enforcement guys here will think of the incident, and what they think charges, if any, should be.

 

Im not a lawyer, but something.  He shouldn’t have been pushed considering his age and that he wasn’t a threat.   They may not have intended to injure him but they did.   
 

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

It was emotional, I'll admit it. No, it's not actual fascism. Let's move on.

But come on man. Ya gotta give me props for my Nelius Fasc-O-Meter. 

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

And these situations often turn bad. 
 

And to play devil’s advocate. These cops were amped up. The guy approached the cop and reached out to him. Sorry old man. Not very smart. 

It was unnecessary.  Totally out of character for that cop.  I couldn’t believe it when I saw the name plate.  He’s probably going to get fired, and that’s too bad.  But he did not have to hit the guy.  At all.  

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

And these situations often turn bad. 
 

And to play devil’s advocate. These cops were amped up. The guy approached the cop and reached out to him. Sorry old man. Not very smart. 

I do sincerely hope the guy is ok and agree someone should have stayed until medical attention arrived.

 

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, Magox said:

 

Im not a lawyer, but something.  He shouldn’t have been pushed considering his age and that he wasn’t a threat.   They may not have intended to injure him but they did.   
 

Eggshell skull rule.  You’re right.  

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I asked in the Buffalo thread, but maybe here will get an answer..

 

What would you expect them to be charged with?

 

He approached them, they told him to get away, he still approached, they pushed, he stumbled backwards and fell.

 

Leaving him there bleeding is where they were wrong, in my opinion. And the one cop pushing the other cop away was terrible. But, maybe neither were trained to help and the national guard guys were trained to help?
 

I will be curious what the law enforcement guys here will think of the incident, and what they think charges, if any, should be.

And it wasn’t even what would consider a forceful shove. It was more of a “move along”. And I do agree to leave him lying there was real bad. 

[SectionC3]

Just now, 4merper4mer said:

I do sincerely hope the guy is ok and agree someone should have stayed until medical attention arrived.

 

It got there pretty quickly thereafter.  That part looked worse than it actually was.  Just no need to hit the guy whatsoever.  That was not protect and serve.