Liberal Protests

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[Rob's House]

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's not the right thread for a lengthy discussion -- but I'd suggest that you're failing to see the bigger picture of what happened. You're focused on "they not being able to prove it" while omitting that the "they" was the outgoing president and the heads of the CIA, DOJ, FBI, and every major media corporation on the planet. And, you're omitting/not realizing that what "they" did was fabricate a piece of fiction to cover up for their own sins. Not only was it the first time in our country's history an outgoing president undermined the peaceful transition of power -- he did so in order to hide even larger crimes committed by his own lieutenants. 

 

If "real issues" matter to you, then you owe it to yourself to re-examine the entire saga with fresh eyes and all the primary source material now available in OS. There's never been a bigger scandal in this country's history. The fallout has not even begun.

 

Personally, I think avoiding Barr's investigation is what this media-crafted outrage is really all about. I know it sounds like a "conspiracy theory" but it's far less outlandish than accepting this series of events at face value.

 

They have to get President Trump out of office. They know incumbents rarely lose when times are good so their goal is to create maximum upheaval in the run up to the election. They don't hate President Trump because of his policies, personality, alleged bigotry, or propensity for getting his hands on some pu$$y. They're terrified of what will be exposed if they can't shut down the investigations. That's been the situation from day one. That's what Russian collusion and the impeachment was all about.

 

They pushed the Covid shut downs as far as they could in an effort to crush both the economy and spirit of the people. Any doubts about their sincerity were confirmed the second mass "protests" broke out and all the extreme insistence on wrapping ourselves in bubble tape and hiding in seclusion instantly went out the window. 

 

Eventually though, the public turned on them. Liberalism is about signaling a willingness to sacrifice for the well-being of others, not actually doing it. When even their own disciples grew tired of confinement and began to defy their lockdown  orders, the plan fell apart. Society started to reopen, the market rebounded, and a return to normality was on the horizon. Something had to be done.

 

Enter the video of the "jogger" getting shot. People are killed on video everyday. In a country of nearly 350 million people, most of whom have smart phones, it isn't rare, and news agencies regularly have access to such footage. Video of a black "jogger" getting shot by white guys wasn't perfect (it would have been better if he wasn't beating the ***** out of the guy who shot him) but it was good enough. The white guys did roll up on him with guns drawn, and with a little massaging of the narrative they could, and did, turn it into another Trayvon Martin.

 

The George Floyd tape was like a gift from God. The only thing that could have made it better would have been if afterward the cop had stood up and unloaded his sidearm into Floyd's unconscious body. (If I ever run for office I suspect those last two sentences will be reported in isolation). They were already working the "hunted black man" narrative and now they've got video of a black man being killed by an actual cop with no reasonable justification. There was more wood in CNN headquarters that day than at 84 Lumber.

 

Since then the media's been playing full court press doing everything in its power to create as much division and destruction as possible. Every left-wing commentator excused, endorsed, and even encouraged violent insurrection across the country.

 

Inevitably they would, and did, blame this on President Trump. The fact that it was done by a cop employed by a Democrat city with a Democrat Mayor, and a Democrat sheriff in a Democrat state with a Democrat legislature, and a Democrat governor is of no consequence. Nor is the fact that all the previous high profile cases they cite occurred during the Obama administration. As with literally everything else, whatever Trump did would be, and was, reported as not only the wrong thing, but the worst thing. More importantly, they could further shred the fabric of society knowing the more tension, hopelessness, and misery they cause, the more likely it is that people will vote for "change."

 

For the true believers (i.e. useful idiots) and all the other dupes who got sucked in by emotional manipulation and/or peer pressure, this is ostensibly about protecting their black virtue pets from the nebulous, undefined, and unquantified threat of oppression and murder at the hands of the monolithic national police force. For those pulling the strings, such concerns aren't so much as an afterthought. For them the "oppressed minority" is a red herring and the SJW a pawn. Their goal is regaining power. Everything else is acceptable collateral damage.

 

One may wonder why they would go to such extreme measures all for the sake of electing Sleepy Joe Biden. Of course they want a Democrat in the Whitehouse. After all, having a Republican President is like having a Jewish Pope. But no policy issue really explains it. For whatever one thinks of his personality, President Trump's policy decisions have been relatively moderate for the most part, and Joe's uninspiring to all but the passionately moderate Democrat..

 

Perhaps it's all about the Supreme Court and that's all there is to it. But they've fought like cornered rats from day one, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it has everything to do with concealing the nefarious acts of the previous administration.

 

[JetsFan20]

2 hours ago, Rob's House said:

 

Personally, I think avoiding Barr's investigation is what this media-crafted outrage is really all about. I know it sounds like a "conspiracy theory" but it's far less outlandish than accepting this series of events at face value.

 

They have to get President Trump out of office. They know incumbents rarely lose when times are good so their goal is to create maximum upheaval in the run up to the election. They don't hate President Trump because of his policies, personality, alleged bigotry, or propensity for getting his hands on some pu$$y. They're terrified of what will be exposed if they can't shut down the investigations. That's been the situation from day one. That's what Russian collusion and the impeachment was all about.

 

They pushed the Covid shut downs as far as they could in an effort to crush both the economy and spirit of the people. Any doubts about their sincerity were confirmed the second mass "protests" broke out and all the extreme insistence on wrapping ourselves in bubble tape and hiding in seclusion instantly went out the window. 

 

Eventually though, the public turned on them. Liberalism is about signaling a willingness to sacrifice for the well-being of others, not actually doing it. When even their own disciples grew tired of confinement and began to defy their lockdown  orders, the plan fell apart. Society started to reopen, the market rebounded, and a return to normality was on the horizon. Something had to be done.

 

Enter the video of the "jogger" getting shot. People are killed on video everyday. In a country of nearly 350 million people, most of whom have smart phones, it isn't rare, and news agencies regularly have access to such footage. Video of a black "jogger" getting shot by white guys wasn't perfect (it would have been better if he wasn't beating the ***** out of the guy who shot him) but it was good enough. The white guys did roll up on him with guns drawn, and with a little massaging of the narrative they could, and did, turn it into another Trayvon Martin.

 

The George Floyd tape was like a gift from God. The only thing that could have made it better would have been if afterward the cop had stood up and unloaded his sidearm into Floyd's unconscious body. (If I ever run for office I suspect those last two sentences will be reported in isolation). They were already working the "hunted black man" narrative and now they've got video of a black man being killed by an actual cop with no reasonable justification. There was more wood in CNN headquarters that day than at 84 Lumber.

 

Since then the media's been playing full court press doing everything in its power to create as much division and destruction as possible. Every left-wing commentator excused, endorsed, and even encouraged violent insurrection across the country.

 

Inevitably they would, and did, blame this on President Trump. The fact that it was done by a cop employed by a Democrat city with a Democrat Mayor, and a Democrat sheriff in a Democrat state with a Democrat legislature, and a Democrat governor is of no consequence. Nor is the fact that all the previous high profile cases they cite occurred during the Obama administration. As with literally everything else, whatever Trump did would be, and was, reported as not only the wrong thing, but the worst thing. More importantly, they could further shred the fabric of society knowing the more tension, hopelessness, and misery they cause, the more likely it is that people will vote for "change."

 

For the true believers (i.e. useful idiots) and all the other dupes who got sucked in by emotional manipulation and/or peer pressure, this is ostensibly about protecting their black virtue pets from the nebulous, undefined, and unquantified threat of oppression and murder at the hands of the monolithic national police force. For those pulling the strings, such concerns aren't so much as an afterthought. For them the "oppressed minority" is a red herring and the SJW a pawn. Their goal is regaining power. Everything else is acceptable collateral damage.

 

One may wonder why they would go to such extreme measures all for the sake of electing Sleepy Joe Biden. Of course they want a Democrat in the Whitehouse. After all, having a Republican President is like having a Jewish Pope. But no policy issue really explains it. For whatever one thinks of his personality, President Trump's policy decisions have been relatively moderate for the most part, and Joe's uninspiring to all but the passionately moderate Democrat..

 

Perhaps it's all about the Supreme Court and that's all there is to it. But they've fought like cornered rats from day one, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it has everything to do with concealing the nefarious acts of the previous administration.

 

This whole thing really has nothing to do with Trump. Systemic police racism has been a long standing issue in this country. The Freddy Gray incident happened with Obama in office. 
 

The hard truth is that there is a level of fear on both sides. White officers patrolling the inner cities (many growing up in the suburbs) have been taught that inner city black people are dangerous. By contrast Inner city black people have been taught that the police are dangerous. 
 

Visit any city in the US and its the same. Travelers are warned to avoid the “rough” neighborhoods which are predominately resided by black people. The unfortunate truth is that there is indeed  significantly more crime in those parts of the city and it requires a larger police presence to deal with it.
 

The problem has been augmented through gentrification (especially places like NYC) where property values in the city have increased up to the point where you have very million dollar homes within blocks of these impoverished black communities. It puts the onus on politicians and the police even further to provide security. Why? Because they want more people to buy these homes and in turn generate new tax payer revenue streams. 

Edited June 3, 2020 by JetsFan20

[Reality Check]

1 hour ago, JetsFan20 said:

This whole thing really has nothing to do with Trump. Systemic police racism has been a long standing issue in this country. The Freddy Gray incident happened with Obama in office. 
 

The hard truth is that there is a level of fear on both sides. White officers patrolling the inner cities (many growing up in the suburbs) have been taught that inner city black people are dangerous. By contrast Inner city black people have been taught that the police are dangerous. 
 

Visit any city in the US and its the same. Travelers are warned to avoid the “rough” neighborhoods which are predominately resided by black people. The unfortunate truth is that there is indeed  significantly more crime in those parts of the city and it requires a larger police presence to deal with it.
 

The problem has been augmented through gentrification (especially places like NYC) where property values in the city have increased up to the point where you have very million dollar homes within blocks of these impoverished black communities. It puts the onus on politicians and the police even further to provide security. Why? Because they want more people to buy these homes and in turn generate new tax payer revenue streams. 

That is terrible. There is nothing more racist than investing in a poor area and trying to improve it. These poor oppressed people should be left alone.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Troops from Upstate NY head to Washington DC

WHECTV
Created: June 03, 2020 05:10 AM

WATERTOWN, N.Y. (WHEC) — Troops from Fort Drum in Upstate New York are heading to Washington D.C.

 

The Department of Defense moved 1,600 soldiers to the D.C. area in response to the growing unrest and protests.

 

Currently, News10NBC is working to find out how many of those soldiers are from Fort Drum.

 

President Donald Trump said on Monday he'd use the military to stop the nationwide riots sparked by the death of George Floyd.

 

https://www.whec.com/news/troops-from-upstate-ny-head-to-washington-dc/5749528/?cat=565

 

[Needle]

41 minutes ago, Reality Check said:

That is terrible. There is nothing more racist than investing in a poor area and trying to improve it. These poor oppressed people should be left alone.

It is hard to fathom why anyone would invest any $ into these communities. Business or home? Yeah okay, good luck with that. People are abandoning suburbs that are in walking distance to these neighborhoods.

Edited June 3, 2020 by Needle

[Reality Check]

8 minutes ago, Needle said:

It is hard to fathom why anyone would invest any $ into these communities. Business or home? Yeah okay, good luck with that. People are abandoning suburbs that are in walking distance to these neighborhoods.

I agree. Very few are willing to take the risk as investors into these places and when they do, they are the bad guys. The alternative dynamic is widely supported however, which is simply isolate these communities and keep them on welfare. In a real sense, that is just an unofficial prison system without walls. A concrete plantation if you will. It's insane.

[Wacka]

9 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Maybe that’s why he’s chilling in his DC bunker.  Mowing McNuggets, rage tweeting, and playing some 4D chess with these snowflake governors.  That’s the ticket. 

Not 9AM yet. Still using the old phrase that pays.  No cash for you.

[LB3]

This is pretty good.

 

[billsfan1959]

3 hours ago, JetsFan20 said:

This whole thing really has nothing to do with Trump. Systemic police racism has been a long standing issue in this country. The Freddy Gray incident happened with Obama in office. 
 

The hard truth is that there is a level of fear on both sides. White officers patrolling the inner cities (many growing up in the suburbs) have been taught that inner city black people are dangerous. By contrast Inner city black people have been taught that the police are dangerous. 
 

Visit any city in the US and its the same. Travelers are warned to avoid the “rough” neighborhoods which are predominately resided by black people. The unfortunate truth is that there is indeed  significantly more crime in those parts of the city and it requires a larger police presence to deal with it.
 

The problem has been augmented through gentrification (especially places like NYC) where property values in the city have increased up to the point where you have very million dollar homes within blocks of these impoverished black communities. It puts the onus on politicians and the police even further to provide security. Why? Because they want more people to buy these homes and in turn generate new tax payer revenue streams. 

 

Why don't you actually read a few studies and look at some actual statistics. Systemic police racism to the level you and other people want to portray it is a myth. It is not supported by anything factual. Nothing. It is a narrative being pushed and manipulated to create exactly what you are watching unfold before your very eyes.

 

I have no problem with the rest of your post. However, people need to do some actual research for themselves on this idea of "Systemic police racism," rather than accept it as fact.

[mead107]

No excuses for what happened. Hopefully the other 3 officers will be charged soon. 
 

I do understand the abuse of power by police has to STOP. 
SOME think because they have the uniform on they are above the law.

i have seen it in our area growing up. 

 

on the other hand they do have a tough job. 
I did not know so many get killed each year in line of duty. 
 

 

Have not seen anything about the 38 cops killed in the line of duty last year or the 47 in2018. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/07/us/2019-officers-killed-trnd/index.html

 

[SoCal Deek]

15 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Why don't you actually read a few studies and look at some actual statistics. Systemic police racism to the level you and other people want to portray it is a myth. It is not supported by anything factual. Nothing. It is a narrative being pushed and manipulated to create exactly what you are watching unfold before your very eyes.

 

I have no problem with the rest of your post. However, people need to do some actual research for themselves on this idea of "Systemic police racism," rather than accept it as fact.

Correct. As I posted yesterday, the FACTS are that more WHITE people are killed by police every year than BLACK people. Every year! In general, police don’t have time to go looking for innocent people to harass. They go to places and incidents where someone calls them to help. Are there bad actors in blue? I’m sure there are! But the problem is not systemic...it’s just not.

[Foxx]

5 hours ago, Rob's House said:

 

Personally, I think avoiding Barr's investigation is what this media-crafted outrage is really all about. I know it sounds like a "conspiracy theory" but it's far less outlandish than accepting this series of events at face value.

 

They have to get President Trump out of office. They know incumbents rarely lose when times are good so their goal is to create maximum upheaval in the run up to the election. They don't hate President Trump because of his policies, personality, alleged bigotry, or propensity for getting his hands on some pu$$y. They're terrified of what will be exposed if they can't shut down the investigations. That's been the situation from day one. That's what Russian collusion and the impeachment was all about.

 

They pushed the Covid shut downs as far as they could in an effort to crush both the economy and spirit of the people. Any doubts about their sincerity were confirmed the second mass "protests" broke out and all the extreme insistence on wrapping ourselves in bubble tape and hiding in seclusion instantly went out the window. 

 

Eventually though, the public turned on them. Liberalism is about signaling a willingness to sacrifice for the well-being of others, not actually doing it. When even their own disciples grew tired of confinement and began to defy their lockdown  orders, the plan fell apart. Society started to reopen, the market rebounded, and a return to normality was on the horizon. Something had to be done.

 

Enter the video of the "jogger" getting shot. People are killed on video everyday. In a country of nearly 350 million people, most of whom have smart phones, it isn't rare, and news agencies regularly have access to such footage. Video of a black "jogger" getting shot by white guys wasn't perfect (it would have been better if he wasn't beating the ***** out of the guy who shot him) but it was good enough. The white guys did roll up on him with guns drawn, and with a little massaging of the narrative they could, and did, turn it into another Trayvon Martin.

 

The George Floyd tape was like a gift from God. The only thing that could have made it better would have been if afterward the cop had stood up and unloaded his sidearm into Floyd's unconscious body. (If I ever run for office I suspect those last two sentences will be reported in isolation). They were already working the "hunted black man" narrative and now they've got video of a black man being killed by an actual cop with no reasonable justification. There was more wood in CNN headquarters that day than at 84 Lumber.

 

Since then the media's been playing full court press doing everything in its power to create as much division and destruction as possible. Every left-wing commentator excused, endorsed, and even encouraged violent insurrection across the country.

 

Inevitably they would, and did, blame this on President Trump. The fact that it was done by a cop employed by a Democrat city with a Democrat Mayor, and a Democrat sheriff in a Democrat state with a Democrat legislature, and a Democrat governor is of no consequence. Nor is the fact that all the previous high profile cases they cite occurred during the Obama administration. As with literally everything else, whatever Trump did would be, and was, reported as not only the wrong thing, but the worst thing. More importantly, they could further shred the fabric of society knowing the more tension, hopelessness, and misery they cause, the more likely it is that people will vote for "change."

 

For the true believers (i.e. useful idiots) and all the other dupes who got sucked in by emotional manipulation and/or peer pressure, this is ostensibly about protecting their black virtue pets from the nebulous, undefined, and unquantified threat of oppression and murder at the hands of the monolithic national police force. For those pulling the strings, such concerns aren't so much as an afterthought. For them the "oppressed minority" is a red herring and the SJW a pawn. Their goal is regaining power. Everything else is acceptable collateral damage.

 

One may wonder why they would go to such extreme measures all for the sake of electing Sleepy Joe Biden. Of course they want a Democrat in the Whitehouse. After all, having a Republican President is like having a Jewish Pope. But no policy issue really explains it. For whatever one thinks of his personality, President Trump's policy decisions have been relatively moderate for the most part, and Joe's uninspiring to all but the passionately moderate Democrat..

 

Perhaps it's all about the Supreme Court and that's all there is to it. But they've fought like cornered rats from day one, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it has everything to do with concealing the nefarious acts of the previous administration.

 

very eloquently stated, Rob. always appreciate when you take the time to elaborate, as we pretty much align on most beliefs i believe.

 

to the bolded i might offer the fact that with Joe in office (a true marionette on strings), the globalists will get a chance to get their plans back on track. if Trump should win another term, with many of the Left's bag of tricks used, they would not have a whole lot of options left to dissuade him from setting them back decades. as it stands now, he has only been able to set them back maybe a couple years.

 

here's to putting them out of business completely.

 

 

3 hours ago, JetsFan20 said:

This whole thing really has nothing to do with Trump. Systemic police racism has been a long standing issue in this country. The Freddy Gray incident happened with Obama in office. 
 

The hard truth is that there is a level of fear on both sides. White officers patrolling the inner cities (many growing up in the suburbs) have been taught that inner city black people are dangerous. By contrast Inner city black people have been taught that the police are dangerous. 
 

Visit any city in the US and its the same. Travelers are warned to avoid the “rough” neighborhoods which are predominately resided by black people. The unfortunate truth is that there is indeed  significantly more crime in those parts of the city and it requires a larger police presence to deal with it.
 

The problem has been augmented through gentrification (especially places like NYC) where property values in the city have increased up to the point where you have very million dollar homes within blocks of these impoverished black communities. It puts the onus on politicians and the police even further to provide security. Why? Because they want more people to buy these homes and in turn generate new tax payer revenue streams. 

oh relly? taking a point and running off into left field much?

 

when is the last time riot materials were staged throughout cities to implement maximum carnage?

Edited June 3, 2020 by Foxx

[billsfan1959]

5 hours ago, Rob's House said:

Perhaps it's all about the Supreme Court and that's all there is to it. But they've fought like cornered rats from day one, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it has everything to do with concealing the nefarious acts of the previous administration.

 

People should never underestimate just how critical this is. I don't think it is all about the Supreme Court; however, it is up near the top of the list of the things they covet...

[bdutton]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/2/david-dorn-retired-st-louis-police-captain-killed-/?utm_source=ForAmerica&fbclid=IwAR00dEcEWlt-i5Bcb6ALFpc6mLwnMKmmKtDKFCSoOEQSyxYeIyrq40Aova0

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ST. LOUIS — A retired St. Louis police captain killed by people who broke into a pawn shop after protests turned violent was a gregarious and outspoken leader who mentored youths and insisted on strict ethical conduct among his employees, a longtime colleague said Tuesday.

David Dorn, 77, was found dead on the sidewalk in front of Lee’s Pawn & Jewelry about 2:30 a.m. Tuesday. No arrests have been made.

 

[Sundancer]

Statement by President George W. Bush

 

 June 2, 2020

 

Laura and I are anguished by the brutal suffocation of George Floyd and disturbed by the injustice and fear that suffocate our country. Yet we have resisted the urge to speak out, because this is not the time for us to lecture. It is time for us to listen. It is time for America to examine our tragic failures – and as we do, we will also see some of our redeeming strengths.

 

It remains a shocking failure that many African Americans, especially young African American men, are harassed and threatened in their own country. It is a strength when protesters, protected by responsible law enforcement, march for a better future. This tragedy — in a long series of similar tragedies — raises a long overdue question: How do we end systemic racism in our society? The only way to see ourselves in a true light is to listen to the voices of so many who are hurting and grieving. Those who set out to silence those voices do not understand the meaning of America — or how it becomes a better place.  

America’s greatest challenge has long been to unite people of very different backgrounds into a single nation of justice and opportunity. The doctrine and habits of racial superiority, which once nearly split our country, still threaten our Union. The answers to American problems are found by living up to American ideals — to the fundamental truth that all human beings are created equal and endowed by God with certain rights. We have often underestimated how radical that quest really is, and how our cherished principles challenge systems of intended or assumed injustice. The heroes of America — from Frederick Douglass, to Harriet Tubman, to Abraham Lincoln, to Martin Luther King, Jr. — are heroes of unity. Their calling has never been for the fainthearted. They often revealed the nation’s disturbing bigotry and exploitation — stains on our character sometimes difficult for the American majority to examine. We can only see the reality of America's need by seeing it through the eyes of the threatened, oppressed, and disenfranchised. 

That is exactly where we now stand. Many doubt the justice of our country, and with good reason. Black people see the repeated violation of their rights without an urgent and adequate response from American institutions. We know that lasting justice will only come by peaceful means. Looting is not liberation, and destruction is not progress. But we also know that lasting peace in our communities requires truly equal justice. The rule of law ultimately depends on the fairness and legitimacy of the legal system. And achieving justice for all is the duty of all. 

 

This will require a consistent, courageous, and creative effort. We serve our neighbors best when we try to understand their experience. We love our neighbors as ourselves when we treat them as equals, in both protection and compassion. There is a better way — the way of empathy, and shared commitment, and bold action, and a peace rooted in justice. I am confident that together, Americans will choose the better way. 

Edited June 3, 2020 by Sundancer

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

Not 9AM yet. Still using the old phrase that pays.  No cash for you.

Radio is dead, my man.  But egg McMuffin sales near the whites house are probably holding steady.  The healthiest president ever probably is McMuffin seven or eight already this morning.  Jus doing his part to curtail world hunger. 

Edited June 3, 2020 by SectionC3

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

6 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

My prayers are with him and family.