jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: The left wants this chaos. That is pretty obvious. I don't think it's obvious at all. Anarchists want chaos. They might be right or left.
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Margarita said: the article I posted questioned the legality of he ordering troops before invoking the Insurrection act. Maybe that article is wrong its my source. What is wrong with you? He didn't order any troops yet. Also, the people that would receive those orders will have a lot to say if those orders aren't legal. You seem to confuse media speculation with reality. Start tracking what actually happens and answer a simple question. Did he do anything illegal? If so, what damn statute did he break? 1
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, njbuff said: Remember it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch. And in this case the violent thugs are DESTROYING the message that was originally supposed to be sent. I completely agree. I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense to mow down a crowd of protesters when a few people are the problem.
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: I don't think it's obvious at all. Anarchists want chaos. They might be right or left. It's happening in ALL Democratic run cities. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: About 20 years ago I worked with a young Bulgarian. I visited his parents and their friends who were also from Bulgaria. They were floored that we’d even consider socialism here. I had drinks with a Pole who grew up under USSR and he teaches American and world history at my school. He points out that the only reason it is popular here is that so many people are willfully ignorant of what it means. 3
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: I completely agree. I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense to mow down a crowd of protesters when a few people are the problem. If they are a small percentage, we need more of the peaceful protesters to point these people out and have them arrested. 1
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: It's happening in ALL Democratic run cities. Right. That's where like 90% of African Americans live. The ones causing trouble aren't from those cities. Several police departments have said the majority of people they've been arresting are from out of town or even out of state. Minneapolis said on Saturday it was like 80%.
Justice Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: I completely agree. I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense to mow down a crowd of protesters when a few people are the problem. I firmly believe the military’s presence alone will stop this. There won’t be much violence if any at all. 1
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: If they are a small percentage, we need more of the peaceful protesters to point these people out and have them arrested. That's easier said than done when most go to the protest with a sign and they go to the protest with hammers, bricks and knives.
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: Right. That's where like 90% of African Americans live. The ones causing trouble aren't from those cities. Several police departments have said the majority of people they've been arresting are from out of town or even out of state. Minneapolis said on Saturday it was like 80%. There are conflicting reports on that. So, don't trust the numbers you are told on this issue. 1 minute ago, Justice said: I firmly believe the military’s presence alone will stop this. There won’t be much violence if any at all. That's what I have been saying since day one. These rioters will figure it out real quick that the military can do whatever they damn well please to restore order.
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I completely agree. I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense to mow down a crowd of protesters when a few people are the problem. The protesters have a responsibility to stop protesting if every time they protest violence happens. Night after night they are putting themselves in a predictably worse situation then they did the night before. Are they going to just roam the streets protesting for months on end? 1
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: That's easier said than done when most go to the protest with a sign and they go to the protest with hammers, bricks and knives. Sad
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: There are conflicting reports on that. So, don't trust the numbers you are told on this issue. Fair enough. I'm just saying, on Twitter the vast majority of the bad apples have been young white males carrying hammers and bricks trying to lights buildings and cars on fire. Who knows where they're from. Maybe those cities, maybe from outside. They provoke the cops, the cops step in to stop it, and the actual protesters wind up clashing with cops because they don't think they're doing anything wrong. These anarchists know exactly what they're doing. Just use the crowd as a shield to cause as much trouble as possible. 1 minute ago, Reality Check said: The protesters have a responsibility to stop protesting if every time they protest violence happens. Night after night they are putting themselves in a predictably worse situation then they did the night before. Are they going to just roam the streets protesting for months on end? No they don't. If they go home, their cause gets swept under the rug until the next time it happens. Peaceful protests are happening all over the country. A lot have turned violent, some a lot more than others, and those are the only ones the media is showing.
bilzfancy Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: This is why I am glad I live in Florida, if someone is on my property and threatens my family in any way and I shoot him I am safe. I am not a proponent of using guns but sometimes they stop much worse things from happening I live in Florida too, love the stand your ground law, though some have abused it
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Fair enough. I'm just saying, on Twitter the vast majority of the bad apples have been young white males carrying hammers and bricks trying to lights buildings and cars on fire. Who knows where they're from. Maybe those cities, maybe from outside. They provoke the cops, the cops step in to stop it, and the actual protesters wind up clashing with cops because they don't think they're doing anything wrong. These anarchists know exactly what they're doing. Just use the crowd as a shield to cause as much trouble as possible. Clearly the crowds need to wise up and go home.
muppy Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Reality Check said: What is wrong with you? He didn't order any troops yet. Also, the people that would receive those orders will have a lot to say if those orders aren't legal. You seem to confuse media speculation with reality. Start tracking what actually happens and answer a simple question. Did he do anything illegal? If so, what damn statute did he break? https://www.wkbw.com/news/national/trump-to-mobilize-us-troops-within-the-us-to-quell-national-unrest No he hasn't yet I stand corrected. I havent read an "I was wrong" about your Obama immigration take so I guess we're even.
SectionC3 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: So, you admit you were wrong then. Thanks. Big of you. . Hoax. He’s never read it. And you know it. He even held it upside down today!
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: Clearly the crowds need to wise up and go home. No one is telling these crowds what to do or how to do it. No one is successfully going to tell them they can't air their grievances. That is why they're protesting!!!
Justice Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 And now two officers, one local and one state, have been hit by a car and have been taken to the hospital. Sad. 1
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Margarita said: https://www.wkbw.com/news/national/trump-to-mobilize-us-troops-within-the-us-to-quell-national-unrest No he hasn't yet I stand corrected. I havent read an "I was wrong" about your Obama immigration take so I guess we're even. Obama supported open borders and sanctuary cities. You focus on arrests when you should focus on how many came across the border unobstructed on his watch. 2
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