Doc Brown Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Beast said: No amount of training or body cameras would have stopped what that clown did. No kidding. Nobody here is defending that aholes actions. 1
US Egg Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) Odds rioters know the neck kneeling murdering cop has been charged for murder and manslaughter: a. 0-25% ? b. 25- 50% ? c. 50-100% ? d. they don't know, don't care. Just enjoying an opportunity to destroy and loot. Edited May 31, 2020 by I am the egg man
Big Blitz Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 To the surprise of no one that understands what's going on, Floyd's death has been hijacked by our Socialist friends, who basically just flat out hate this country. Jeremy White can fake virtue signal all he wants on the radio and others like him can do the same on Facebook. They don't give a rat's you know what about Floyd. They hate the Country as they have seen it characterized and mischaracterized to them since they were kids. A land of racist white conservatives that will make y'all go to church and put a gun in everyone's hand if they could.....and something about the glory days of the 1950s! That's what them evil MAGA folks want.... Friggin jokes. All of em. Fake elitist white virtue signaling jokes. 4 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: That should be obvious considering black people only comprise about 13% of the population while white people compromise about 60%. The best estimates are you're about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by a cop in your lifetime if you're black compared to white in the US. However, black people are more likely to commit crimes so it's difficult to quantify how much racism (at all) is attributed to that number. That’s exactly what it’s attributable to. This is a police state problem. Everyone is being manipulated. So, here’s the thing. 55% of people killed by police are white, and 27% are black. A study completed by Harvard last year actually demonstrated that blacks were less likely to have a gun drawn on them by police, though they were more likely to be harassed in general. The problem isn’t racial, or at least race isn’t the largest component. The problem is that we live in a police state with a militarized police force who are trained to believe they are at war with the citizens of the state. They roll around in paramilitary gear covered in Punisher logos, and are protected by self-investigation and qualified immunity. You don’t hear about the white deaths because everyone is being manipulated. Whites are being manipulated into protecting a system which kills them via ignorance (they are the majority of the population and need to be kept docile). Blacks are similarly manipulated into hating whites, and are whipped into a frenzy in order to cause division. They’re a minority, so their compliance isn’t required. This keeps the country divided so no one bothers looking behind the curtain at the Man pulling the strings and profiting off the whole thing. 2
Boatdrinks Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 On another note, can we just admit the Covid 19 crap is officially over and get people back to work ? It’s clear a whole lot of folks have too much time on their hands. 3
4merper4mer Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: That should be obvious considering black people only comprise about 13% of the population while white people compromise about 60%. The best estimates are you're about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by a cop in your lifetime if you're black compared to white in the US. However, black people are more likely to commit crimes so it's difficult to quantify how much racism (at all) is attributed to that number. Each individual case is an individual case. We may find information indicating this was racial, personal, birth or neither. The end result is a tragedy as is the rioting response. The ahole cop woke up one morning and by the end of the day started this ball rolling.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: That should be obvious considering black people only comprise about 13% of the population while white people compromise about 60%. The best estimates are you're about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by a cop in your lifetime if you're black compared to white in the US. However, black people are more likely to commit crimes so it's difficult to quantify how much racism (at all) is attributed to that number. yeah I know. Some cops are brutal power mongering aholes happy to rough up any race without discrimination... also one of the minny officers looked Asian. I’m not sure where to file that.
Sig1Hunter Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Are you kidding me? The thug in question had his knee on the neck of the man he murdered for over 7 minutes. He continued to do so for a full 1:45 after the man went limp. The victim pleaded 15 times that “I can’t breathe”. It would take a total *****, and a completely bad to the core cop, to make the argument that those pre-existing morbities weren’t actualized by the brutality of the thug murderer in question. If you have 1000 “good cops” and 10 bad cops, and the 1000 good cops protect the 10 bad cops instead of outing them and seeing them prosecuted, you have 1010 bad cops. All bad cops should be made too afraid to report to work. No I’m not kidding you. And yes, the cause of death is a highly important piece of evidence in a murder case. It therefore stands to reason that the results might be important to getting a conviction. Unless, you are advocating charging people just to diffuse any potential civil discord? For the record, I was trained to do the opposite of what the cop did. I’m not saying he’s innocent. I’m saying building your case before charging it is solid protocol. The idea of charging people with crimes because that’s the mob wants, regardless of the evidence, doesn’t sit well with me. Edited May 31, 2020 by Sig1Hunter 4
Boatdrinks Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: yeah I know. Some cops are brutal power mongering aholes happy to rough up any race without discrimination... also one of the minny officers looked Asian. I’m not sure where to file that. Some are. As for the Minny four, they were the “ diversity team” with an Asian, Hispanic , African American and a white cop. Still FUBAR’d the situation.
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: No I’m not kidding you. And yes, the cause of death is a highly important piece of evidence in a murder case. It therefore stands to reason that the results might be important to the case. You’re a bad cop. I hope you’re made afraid to go to work. 1
Boatdrinks Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 Just saw on TV two Caucasian rioters bro hugging in DC. What an embarrassment. Should be punishable by castration.
meazza Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 Seriously he had the ability to cuff him 10 seconds into the arrest. 1
Sig1Hunter Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: You’re a bad cop. I hope you’re made afraid to go to work. I’m not, and I’m not. Then again, I’m not concerned with your opinion. Re-read my edited post. I figured you would construe it as I was supporting the cop. I’m supporting following the evidence, regardless of what the masses say. 1
billsfan1959 Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 Just now, meazza said: Seriously he had the ability to cuff him 10 seconds into the arrest. He was already handcuffed. The officer’s behavior crossed the line and, at the very least, contributed to the death of Floyd. He was fired immediately. An investigation began immediately. The facts and the law determined he should be arrested and charged, and he was. The investigation is still ongoing regarding the other three. The process is working as it is designed to work. 9 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: You’re a bad cop. I hope you’re made afraid to go to work. If he is a police officer, you have no idea what kind of police officer he might be - certainly not from a few posts on a message board.
meazza Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: He was already handcuffed. The officer’s behavior crossed the line and, at the very least, contributed to the death of Floyd. He was fired immediately. An investigation began immediately. The facts and the law determined he should be arrested and charged, and he was. The investigation is still ongoing regarding the other three. The process is working as it is designed to work. You’re right my memory failed me. Personally what happened in Georgia was much more egregious based on what I’ve seen.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 58 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I wish the people who have the worst opinions of law enforcement had even the slightest idea of what it is like to deal with emotionally charged, potentially violent situations, and knowing other people will have all the time in the world to evaluate decisions you have to make instantaneously. My son was interested in law enforcement and had an opportunity to visit a training facility out near Utica a few years back. They simulated a live shooter situation using a mall setting, with law enforcement officers clearing out the store. They hit them with some curves, pregnant lady was a shooter, that sort of thing. My son was amazed at how stressful the trainees found it just to simulate the danger, and was told how frequently the trainees make mistakes that would be life-threatening in a real life encounter. i was never interested in that sort of profession, and cannot imagine how difficult it can be. To see massive amounts of people turn on the hundreds of thousands of officers like this is heartbreaking. 2
billsfan1959 Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 Just now, meazza said: You’re right my memory failed me. Personally what happened in Georgia was much more egregious based on what I’ve seen. Both were bad. I agree the case in Georgia was even worse.
Rob's House Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 57 minutes ago, meazza said: More accountability as well. Again, it’s not normal that it takes this long for a cop to be charged in such a clear cut case. That's not necessarily true. It's not uncommon for some delay in charges when an arrest is not made on the scene, regardless if it's a cop involved, and even when it's clear an arrest is imminent. It makes even more sense in this situation because it happened in the course of an arrest in such a way that, while it was obvious misconduct, there were clearly some questions as to what the appropriate charges would be. Unless there were a genuine concern of a danger to the community or risk of flight it would have been highly unusual for the officer to have been arrested right away. 3
Doc Brown Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: That’s exactly what it’s attributable to. This is a police state problem. Everyone is being manipulated. So, here’s the thing. 55% of people killed by police are white, and 27% are black. A study completed by Harvard last year actually demonstrated that blacks were less likely to have a gun drawn on them by police, though they were more likely to be harassed in general. The problem isn’t racial, or at least race isn’t the largest component. The problem is that we live in a police state with a militarized police force who are trained to believe they are at war with the citizens of the state. They roll around in paramilitary gear covered in Punisher logos, and are protected by self-investigation and qualified immunity. You don’t hear about the white deaths because everyone is being manipulated. Whites are being manipulated into protecting a system which kills them via ignorance (they are the majority of the population and need to be kept docile). Blacks are similarly manipulated into hating whites, and are whipped into a frenzy in order to cause division. They’re a minority, so their compliance isn’t required. This keeps the country divided so no one bothers looking behind the curtain at the Man pulling the strings and profiting off the whole thing. I wouldn't broadly apply that to all cops although it's definitely true with cops in high crime areas where they're conditioned to see the community as the enemy. Internal coverups among police departments are a major problem and my guess is with this particular officer a lot was swept under the rug before this happened. The mental health of cops also have to be considered as they're on average more stressed, depressed, suicidal, etc. than the average worker in other occupations and less likely to seek help. Edited May 31, 2020 by Doc Brown
meazza Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: That's not necessarily true. It's not uncommon for some delay in charges when an arrest is not made on the scene, regardless if it's a cop involved, and even when it's clear an arrest is imminent. It makes even more sense in this situation because it happened in the course of an arrest in such a way that, while it was obvious misconduct, there were clearly some questions as to what the appropriate charges would be. Unless there were a genuine concern of a danger to the community or risk of flight it would have been highly unusual for the officer to have been arrested right away. Fair enough.
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